Ah yes. The usual...
Turnovers were the story of the game again.
And we're still not hitting our 3's.
J Rich was getting abused all game.
Winslow needs to play more.
We are missing Whiteside so bad. McGruder defense would have helped...
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Ah yes. The usual...
Turnovers were the story of the game again.
And we're still not hitting our 3's.
J Rich was getting abused all game.
Winslow needs to play more.
We are missing Whiteside so bad. McGruder defense would have helped...
I wanted to jump back in on this J-Rich discussion. I've always said it's on the staff to hone in on what guys do well and put them in position to succeed based on that. Rich is a great athlete, he's not a great on ball defender. In the past he's done well against the likes of Wall, Kyrie, etc., but bigger perimeter scorers he's going to struggle with..just not as sound on the ball like JJ or Winslow. That's not to say either one of them doesn't give up buckets, but they (particularly Winslow) have better on ball fundamentals.
As far as comparing him and Winslow head up, it's like the old running joke that if you have to win the big game always take the team with Chalmers over the team with Rose. There's a reason Rich was a 4 year player whose team was in the NIT for 2 of those 4 years, and another year they didn't even qualify for the NIT. And there's a reason Winslow played the best basketball of his lone college season during his team's championship run, it's called pedigree and it matters. Rich might have more flash plays and stat lines but if I have to choose I know who I want on the floor late in games.
As far as comparing him and Winslow head up, it's like the old running joke that if you have to win the big game always take the team with Chalmers over the team with Rose. There's a reason Rich was a 4 year player whose team was in the NIT for 2 of those 4 years, and another year they didn't even qualify for the NIT. And there's a reason Winslow played the best basketball of his lone college season during his team's championship run, it's called pedigree and it matters. Rich might have more flash plays and stat lines but if I have to choose I know who I want on the floor late in games.
I absolutely agree. I see a bunch of "fans" who look at a bunch of highlights and don't understand all the little things Winslow does well on a consistent basis that separate their defensive ability.
Honestly, McGruder is better defender than J-Rich if you wanna keep it a stack. Rich is best as a defender of ball dominant, dribble happy PGs in spurts. He goes 120 percent and is always aggressive which leads him to getting caught on screens, not calling out switches, and being drained at the end of games.
Makavalli
Sinister is a system
We need that starting 5 with winslow and olynyk when whiteside gets back. The balance between are starters and bench is out of sync because of it right now it looks like nobody wants to step on the others toes.
Since spo likes O at the 5 so much when white subs out let him go there for a few mins before bringin in bam but we didnt start rolling last year until the line ups were consistent
Since spo likes O at the 5 so much when white subs out let him go there for a few mins before bringin in bam but we didnt start rolling last year until the line ups were consistent
Olynyk and Whiteside only work next to each other against certain lineups because they won’t be athletic enough defensively, which is probably why Spo went away from it as a starting lineup. Also like you said he likes Olynyk as a 5 more
So he was playing within the game. Getting easy buckets, making smart plays, hustling and playing defense and not letting WIggins embarrass him?
Wait... so you guys think that SPO is really giving j-rich most of the playing time because he feels j-rich is better than Winslow? Or he has a grudge against Winslow? He's giving j-rich these minutes out of necessity for the spacing of his offense. Not because he fukking wants to.
Everybody knows Winslow is a much better player than J-Rich. However Winslow's shortcomings is that nobody will respect him near the three-point line. J-RICH may have struggled in that game and in the Spurs game but you know he can hit that shot.
So when Dragic and Waiters are driving to the basket and kicking out ain't nobody going to be trying to close out on Winslow.? They'll just clog the lane to stop the penetration because they know Winslow isn't comfortable with that shot.
The few times he gets it there he'll either pass it off , or drive it, and the few times he'll take the shot.....
When I said they were mostly bunnies I didn't mean to discredit the man making all his shots. Just making sure you all weren't just looking at scoreboard thinking Winslow was lighting it up from all over the floor. He also passed up a few shots i felt he should have taken even tho they werent within his comfortable range, btw. Especially tht one where he tossed it to TJ in the corner that ended up in an illegal screen by Olynyk
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Guys have to hit shots for spacing to matter. Rich was 1-6 from 3 last night, if you let Winslow chuck 6 threes he's going to hit atleast one. Thats a statistical fact. Spo is oversaturating him at the moment, cant let "spacing" get in the way of playing your best players.
Okay... Agree.
But if you let both of them just chuck 3s on an average night who do you expect to hit more?
Like i said before the only way i see Winslow getting A LOT of playing time the way this team is built is by making a damn PG somehow and i honestly dont see how
When in doubt, bet on the championship player.Okay... Agree.
But if you let both of them just chuck 3s on an average night who do you expect to hit more?
College championships dont count, breh. If you won it while playing for free then it didnt really happen.
I'm joking but I honestly dont respect collegiate sports accomplishments. Like i always say "show me what you can do when there's a paycheck in the balance" because as my father used to say "you can always count on greed as a motivator"
Some guys are just winners. There's no rhyme or reason to it some guys just have that in their athletic dnaCollege championships dont count, breh. If you won it while playing for free then it didnt really happen.
I'm joking but I honestly dont respect collegiate sports accomplishments. Like i always say "show me what you can do when there's a paycheck in the balance" because as my father used to say "you can always count on greed as a motivator"
BushidoBrown
Superstar
so we gonna address waiters spontaneously playing outta his mind?
After sitting the 4th qtr just 1 game ago..
nikka got cortizone shots in his ankles over the weekend or something?
After sitting the 4th qtr just 1 game ago..
nikka got cortizone shots in his ankles over the weekend or something?
LeoTheGreat
Pro
Winslow need to be guarding the opposing best offensive wing EVERY game. JRich too small and weak to hang with em all game. Get him back to guarding points and shooting guards with his length giving them problems because he getting absolutely cooked by players bigger than him. It's really not his fault it's just common sense basketball, the guy in front of you is weaker than you so you bully him until the team adjusts...
Also crazy how much of our weaknesses are covered when Hassan is manning the paint. Hope he's back by Wednesday
Also crazy how much of our weaknesses are covered when Hassan is manning the paint. Hope he's back by Wednesday
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