NO IM SAYING
LAKERS MAKE THE SHOT WITH 3 SECONDS LEFT
AND NOW MINNY CANT ADVANCE
THE BALL
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NO IM SAYING
LAKERS MAKE THE SHOT WITH 3 SECONDS LEFT
AND NOW MINNY CANT ADVANCE
THE BALL
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You play the cards you’re delt not make excuses like you’re doing.
A veteran coach in Kerr even knows playing your older star player the entire half is not a good decision.
By your logic JJ should just go 5 men the entire game 5.
Gabe, Vando and Goodwin played 32 minutes in game 2 and they won by 9.
They played 39 minutes in game 3 and were +11 collectively.
Through the first 3 games, the Lakers bench had a positive +/- and similar production to Minnesota's.
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So, just to be clear you're saying JJ was correct to make ZERO substitutions in the 2nd half, it was a perfectly defensible coaching strategy? If so let's just agree to disagree.
Less making excuses and more focusing on the root cause of the Lakers' problems.
If the Lakers had Naz Reid instead of Jaxson Hayes and they were up 3-1, that wouldn't make JJ a better coach than he is now, would it? The same principle must be applied in the reverse. He's not a worse coach because they have Hayes instead of Naz. It's not his fault the Lakers lack of a frontcourt is rearing its ugly head against one of the deepest frontcourts in the league.
It's a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation.
Kerr has been criticized many a time for not playing Steph more minutes and resting him when he should be on the floor. Hell, Kerr's was shytted on for resting Steph during the game just yesterday when the team couldn't survive without him.
I just think if you're choosing to center a discussion around that than it blinds you from the real issue.
I think Minnesota still had a timeout though, because despite them challenging, the timeout went to the Lakers because they called it prior to the challenge. I believe that was the Lakers’ final timeout, so if they miss the quick shot and foul, Minnesota makes the FTs, they’ve got to do some type of miraculous Hail Mary pass and hope to make a desperation 3. If they make the quick shot, they’re only up 1-2 points, and Minny get to advance the ball and go for the win or tie, and if for some reason there’s still time, LA still can’t advance the ball. Just judging by how the Lakers played that last possession knowing they needed a 3, I feel they would’ve tried to go for the win on the road.
NO IM SAYING
LAKERS MAKE THE SHOT WITH 3 SECONDS LEFT
AND NOW MINNY CANT ADVANCE
THE BALL
YOU AUTOMATICALLY LOSE A TIMEOUT
WHEN YOU LOSE A CHALLENGE
They played relatively the same minutes in Game 4 and lost by 3.Gabe, Vando and Goodwin played 32 minutes in game 2 and they won by 9.
The only difference is Gabe's minutes went from 19 to 13, and that had a lot to do with the fact he shot 0-2 and was a -7. Or are you going to tell me that in those 13 minutes his play warranted more gametime and that would've been the difference between them winning/losing?
Do you think that if Gabe actually played well in his 13 minutess this game that he wouldn't have received more gametime? Or was JJ just supposed to play him more minutes despite him playing bad? Do you think if he continued to play bad with more minutes that folks wouldn't have blamed JJ for leaving him out on the floor?
I'm saying you can't see the forest for the trees focusing on the subs. Not that it was the correct/wrong decision.So, just to be clear you're saying JJ was correct to make ZERO substitutions in the 2nd half, it was a perfectly defensible coaching strategy? If so let's just agree to disagree.
No strategy that has been employed by the Lakers this series has been a successful one, and that speaks to their roster more than anything else. There's only so much you can do when you don't have even one legitimate big to match up against Julius, Rudy, Naz and McDaniels. You can play bums like Gabe, Vando and Goodwin however many minutes you like, it's not going to erase the advantage Minny has in the frontcourt.
Bench players aren't consistent, that's why they're on the bench. Which makes it even more nonsensical to just not play them for a half. As I've stated before I understand the roster's structual limitations. I thought any "window" they had closed when the Williams trade was rescinded. That's besides the point that you can't play 5 players 24 straight minutes in a playoff game. If you're going to have any post-season success you're going to need to rely on your bench to some extent, regardless of how flawed it is. If this was game 6 in the Finals ok sure, maybe. In game 4 in the 1st round?
Even with the mismatches, this was a winnable game forLA and JJ did the team a disservice by not figuring out how to give guys a blow in the 2nd half.If the bench plays better in the minutes they've given in Game 5, they'll likely will be rewarded with more minutes. If they don't, then we're going to see much of the same we saw in Game 4.
Except I think it's the entire point.Bench players aren't consistent, that's why they're on the bench. Which makes it even more nonsensical to just not play them for a half. As I've stated before I understand the roster's structual limitations. I thought any "window" they had closed when the Williams trade was rescinded. That's besides the point that you can't play 5 players 24 straight minutes in a playoff game. If you're going to have any post-season success you're going to need to rely on your bench to some extent, regardless of how flawed it is. If this was game 6 in the Finals ok sure, maybe. In game 4 in the 1st round?
That's where we beg to differ.
If they lost this game and JJ rested the starters during the second half, and the second unit gave up the lead, we'd be talking about that instead, ultimately, proving my point.
In a vacuum, you shouldn't play five players for an entire half, but that doesn't mean a whole lot here given the context in which the situation the Lakers find themselves in. Just like in a vacuum, you shouldn't continue to play bench players if they're not performing (or their roles are limited because you can't craft proper lineups due to not having a legit big). That's why if you're centering an argument around what is better/worse out of the two, than you're not arguing about the right things.
Breh he doesn’t care Ant is straight knuckle head with a too cool for school demeanor he just happens to also be a magnificent basketball player also.Ant can’t read the room. The think pieces on him mentioning his kid are about to be heavy
Easily the best shooting guard in the league right now and he needs to mature with his off the court shyt though.
Pure Water
Veteran
This nikka Bron tryna lose so he can make it to the GNX tour.
He ain't slick.
He ain't slick.
Pure Water
Veteran
Luka needs to spend all off-season on Ozempic. Once he loses enough weight, it's time to gain muscle. I ain't never seen a superstar so 
You're arguing a hypothetical, and I'm not sure why... JJ rested his starters in game 2 and 3 and the bench was solid. That ACTUALLY happened. Collectively they've been at worst neutral for the series. There was really no reason to not go to them for a half. If the bench had been consistently wetting the bed and blowing leads it would be a different story, but that's not whats been happening.
HERES MOVE CLARIFICATION
ON THE RULE.
NOT ONLY DOES MINNY
LOSE A TIMEOUT IN THIS SCENARIO
THE LAKERS KEEP THEIR TIMEOUT
REGARDLESS OF THE FACT
THEY CALLED ONE FIRST.
"If the Challenge is unsuccessful, the challenging team will be assigned the timeout and, notwithstanding that the opposing team initially called the timeout, the opposing team will not be charged for the timeout;"
THE WORST CASE SCENARIO
COULD HAVE BEEN PRETTY BAD.