Good Dad vs Poor Dad Puffin On That Hooka & Nico Pack... Official (3)Lakers vs (6)Timberwolves 1st Round Playoff Thread

[Recca Gatsby]

yal slandered my team CRAZY too

Who is yall, I was livid when they rescinded it. Just fot him to play normal for yall like nothing happened

Never got a good explanation for that

 

[Surreal]

Keep the insults coming. It's not the first time you've used that language towards someone

And whaaaaaaaat they gon do about it?

 

[Po pimp]

WORST CASE
WAS THEY LOSE THEIR TIMEOUT
AND LAKERS TAKE THE LEAD
WITH TIME ON THE CLOCK
BUT THE WOLVES CANT ADVANCE THE BALL AFTERWARDS

LAKERS WERENT GOING
TO SHOOT AT THE BUZZER
WHEN THEY WERE DOWN 1


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Weren’t the Lakers out of timeouts? I could’ve sworn they said the Lakers used a timeout, so they would’ve been in that same predicament of not being able to advance the ball had they missed a quick shot, then forced to foul.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

In a last ditch effort, I wonder if they should bring Reaves off the bench in Game 5 and start someone like Goodwin. Even start Vando, and have him use up 2-3 fouls by getting him to set a defensive tone.

They need something to break up the monotony of what they're doing.

 

[Jazzy B.]

i dont think coaching was bad at all, yall dont get how much size matters pause

Starters which included a 40 year old played the entire second half even with the lakers at MULTIPLE points having a 11-12 point leads


Darwin Ham would have been KILLED for pulling this shyt


Reddikk SHRIVLED

 

[ghostwriterx]

Denver's starters have played more minutes than any other team.

It is ridiculous, but not for the reasons why you're stating so.

It's ridiculous because they shouldn't have gone into the postseason with this roster imbalance (I stressed many a time during the regular season that it was going to become a problem for them), not that it's ridiculous they're playing their starters 40+ minutes, because the alternative isn't better.

If Hayes could miraculously give them 20 quality minutes, we wouldn't be having this conversation right now. But since he can't, it limits the lineups they can throw out there because that imbalance of not having a proper frontcourt means the value of lesser role players is further limited because they don't have the appropriate pieces around them to make them serviceable.

I mean be serious. Playing 5 guys 24 straight minutes in the 2nd half is not smart regardless of how your roster is constructed. You know this, you're just being argumenative at this point.

 

[MicIsGod]

In a last ditch effort, I wonder if they should bring Reaves off the bench in Game 5 and start someone like Goodwin. Even start Vando, and have him use up 2-3 fouls by getting him to set a defensive tone.

They need something to break up the monotony of what they're doing.

Vando should be playing ALOT more no doubt.

 

[ghostwriterx]

In a last ditch effort, I wonder if they should bring Reaves off the bench in Game 5 and start someone like Goodwin. Even start Vando, and have him use up 2-3 fouls by getting him to set a defensive tone.

They need something to break up the monotony of what they're doing.

I've always thought it would be best to bring Reaves off the bench, but putting a non-shooter with Luka and Bron is probably sub-optimal.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I mean be serious. Playing 5 guys 24 straight minutes in the 2nd half is not smart regardless of how your roster is constructed. You know this, you're just being argumenative at this point.

The point I'm trying to illustrate is, if they ran a second unit lineup in the 2nd half in which the T'Wolves erased some of or all of the deficit, and then the Lakers still ended up losing, everyone (including you) would be blaming JJ for that lineup. The margin of error is razor thin with this group because they don't have a proper frontcourt and too many role players who only have value at one end of the floor.

That's why I don't see it as being a mistake playing five guys for the entire second half, because the alternative would've likely brought the same result. I don't know why there's such an emphasis on that either, especially when only one possession seperated both teams. The Lakers have struggled in every 4th quarter in this series (17, 19, 20 and 13), that's with the bench unit getting minutes and without them getting minutes. It hasn't been a difference maker in any game.

They got 42 minutes combined from Gabe, Vando and Goodwin in Game 3 and still shat the bed in the 4th because they ran out of gas. The number of minutes those three got in Game 4 was cut in half and the result was the same, they still couldn't do shyt in the 4th because they ran out of gas.

It doesn't seem to matter how many minutes they play, does it?

At the end of the day, they're still going to run into the exact same dead-end that comes with having an imbalanced roster no matter who plays what minutes.

I've always thought it would be best to bring Reaves off the bench, but putting a non-shooter with Luka and Bron is probably sub-optimal.

Exactly.

It doesn't matter what rearranging or minutes allocation they do, it's likely going to be suboptimal.

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

Are you tryna gaslight me into thinking 4 championships aren't a great amount?

“Gaslight”?

How big are your titties?

 

[ghostwriterx]

The point I'm trying to illustrate is, if they ran a second unit lineup in the 2nd half in which the T'Wolves erased some of or all of the deficit, and then the Lakers still ended up losing, everyone (including you) would be blaming JJ for that lineup. The margin of error is razor thin with this group because they don't have a proper frontcourt and too many role players who only have value at one end of the floor.

That's why I don't see it as being a mistake playing five guys for the entire second half, because the alternative would've likely brought the same result. I don't know why there's such an emphasis on that either, especially when only one possession seperated both teams. The Lakers have struggled in every 4th quarter in this series (17, 19, 20 and 13), that's with the bench unit getting minutes and without them getting minutes. It hasn't been a difference maker in any game.

They got 42 minutes combined from Gabe, Vando and Goodwin in Game 3 and still shat the bed in the 4th because they ran out of gas. The number of minutes those three got in Game 4 was cut in half and the result was the same, they still couldn't do shyt in the 4th because they ran out of gas.

It doesn't seem to matter how many minutes they play, does it?

At the end of the day, they're still going to run into the exact same dead-end that comes with having an imbalanced roster no matter who plays what minutes.

Exactly.

It doesn't matter what rearranging or minutes allocation they do, it's likely going to be suboptimal.

This is nonsense and you know it. To your point, who was blaming JJ for making substitutions in the 2nd half of the previous losses?
And while I can't speak for everyone I certainly wouldn't be blaming JJ for the perfectly normal practice of giving someone a minute or two while giving your best players a blow in the 2nd half. It was a mistake by JJ, esepcially given the double digit lead they had, which gave him a buffer. The Lakers bench is flawed and JJ should still have used them more. These things aren't mutually exclusive.

 

[The God Poster]

bro who on his bench do you want him to play? they didnt lose cuz they ran outta gas they just got outmatched man wolves hit clutch shots

They aren’t robots & you can’t slide the fatigue option to off. Even a minute or two here & there would help. There’s a reason this rarely happens & I can guarantee this isn’t the worst bench in the history of the playoffs.

JJ is a 1st year coach & will make bad decisions. Not sure why some on here are so afraid to point his fukk ups out

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

This is nonsense and you know it

How is it nonsense when I've laid out exactly how these games have played out, and it didn't matter how many minutes the bench contributed, it still ended up not have any notable effect on what happened?

Gabe, Vando and Goodwin played 42 minutes in Game 3, and the Lakers still ran out of gas in the 4th.

And while I can't speak for everyone I certainly wouldn't be blaming JJ for the perfectly normal practice of giving someone a minute or two while giving your best players a blow in the 2nd half.

You say that now, but if there were a two-minute period in which the T'Wolves cut a double-digit deficit to a one possession game with the Lakers running a bench lineup, you'd be calling for JJ to hurry up and put the starters back in. And then if the Lakers lost by one possession, you'd be pointing out how that second unit lineup, who gave up the lead, was to blame.

You can't keep layering an alternative if it likely wouldn't have made a difference.

It was a mistake by JJ, esepcially given the double digit lead they had, which gave him a buffer. The Lakers bench is flawed and JJ should still have used them more. These things aren't mutually exclusive.

Gabe was 0-2 and a -7 in 13 minutes; Vando didn't do a damn thing in the 7 minutes he got.

Why are you continuing to speak about the bench as if they're just not as likely to give up a lead in which the starters have built? Why are you speaking like the bench wasn't used more in Game 3 and yet it still didn't stop the Lakers from running out of gas in the 4th and losing?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

They aren’t robots & you can’t slide the fatigue option to off. Even a minute or two here & there would help. There’s a reason this rarely happens & I can guarantee this isn’t the worst bench in the history of the playoffs.

JJ is a 1st year coach & will make bad decisions. Not sure why some on here are so afraid to point his fukk ups out

Because whatever y'all perceive JJ's fukk ups to be are inconsequential to the bigger picture. The problem is the roster.

He could coach a perfect game, and the Lakers would still have the same issues. We'd still be here talking about why/how they're losing.

Again, if they had even one quality big that could give them 20 minutes, we wouldn't even be having this conversation right now. Swap Naz Reid for Jaxson Hayes and the Lakers would likely be up 3-1.

 

[JSS]

JJ should have gave the bench some burn at the start of the 4th when they had a 10 point lead. They've been outscored 62-39 in the 4th quarter when you combine both game 3 and 4. They've been gassed. Got both Bron and Luka missing easy layups and shyt