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‘Ndrangheta def needs its own series....a present day Cosa Nostra series in Sicily would be dope too....same with the Albanians

It's probably difficult because of how secretive Ndrangheta is. I believe present day Sicillian Cosa Nostra and a faction of Comorra offshoot clans operate like the U.S mob....A series showing the lead up to that would be dope.
 
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It's probably difficult because of how secretive Ndrangheta is. I believe present day Sicillian Cosa Nostra and a faction of Comorra offshoot clans operate like the U.S mob....A series showing the lead up to that would be dope.

They’re much more powerful than the mob in the US...much more a part of the social fabric in those regions. Italy is basically a mafia-state at this point the same way that Mexico or Colombia is a narco-state.

Cosa Nostra in Sicily isn’t as powerful as before but they’re resilient and still hold a lot of political power...they’re less violent as before but more into institutional corruption, etc. Check out the P2 Masonic lodge on google. Cosa Nostra has a lot of power in South America, particularly Argentina. I’m willing to bet fugitive Matteo Messina Denaro is hiding out in some village in Argentina getting his messages courried back and forth to Italy.

Cosa Nostra are the ones that taught the ‘Ndrangheta how to reinvest their illegal kidnapping ransom funds into dope and the Calabrians ran with it to the point where they’re controlling 80% of Europe’s coke and lions share in Canada and Australia too.

Most people had never heard of ‘Ndrangheta until that massacre in Germany in 2007.

Roberto Saviano has a lecture worth watching on YouTube about ‘Ndrangheta called Kings of Crime.

ZeroZeroZero has s whole section dedicated to ‘Ndrangheta that’s worth reading if you’re interested in them.
 

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They’re much more powerful than the mob in the US...much more a part of the social fabric in those regions. Italy is basically a mafia-state at this point the same way that Mexico or Colombia is a narco-state.

Cosa Nostra in Sicily isn’t as powerful as before but they’re resilient and still hold a lot of political power...they’re less violent as before but more into institutional corruption, etc. Check out the P2 Masonic lodge on google. Cosa Nostra has a lot of power in South America, particularly Argentina. I’m willing to bet fugitive Matteo Messina Denaro is hiding out in some village in Argentina getting his messages courried back and forth to Italy.

Cosa Nostra are the ones that taught the ‘Ndrangheta how to reinvest their illegal kidnapping ransom funds into dope and the Calabrians ran with it to the point where they’re controlling 80% of Europe’s coke and lions share in Canada and Australia too.

Most people had never heard of ‘Ndrangheta until that massacre in Germany in 2007.

Roberto Saviano has a lecture worth watching on YouTube about ‘Ndrangheta called Kings of Crime.

ZeroZeroZero has s whole section dedicated to ‘Ndrangheta that’s worth reading if you’re interested in them.

Not in terms of power....In terms of structure....Like a single governing body residing over the whole thing. I'm probably wrong though..But that came from U.S Cosa Nostra with the commission ?

I'm definitely gonna read up on Ndrangheta....They have almost a cult like lure to them.

Repped for all the info.
 
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Not in terms of power....In terms of structure....Like a single governing body residing over the whole thing. I'm probably wrong though..But that came from U.S Cosa Nostra with the commission ?

I'm definitely gonna read up on Ndrangheta....They have almost a cult like lure to them.

Repped for all the info.

Oh you’re right...the Sicilians got the idea of “the commission” from the Americans. I believe the term Cosa Nostra even started with the Americans and made its way to Sicily after.

There’s a cupola in Sicily that’s the ruling body or commission over there. There’s even been pentitos (rats) that spoke of a “super cupola” that’s made up of the top Cosa Nostra, Camorra, ‘Ndrangheta bosses along with political leaders (Berlusconi is as corrupt as they come), the Vatican and other powerful Masons. They all supposedly belonged the the Propoganda 2 Masonic lodge and have since moved on to more secretive lodges.

‘Ndrangheta is def the most cult like with their rituals and levels of membership.

Also check out Sacra Corona Unita...they’re the Pugliese mafia and are the most connected to the trade routes to the east...the balkans most specifically the Albanians and the Lebanese and Turks. They have a rank that the member needs to have at least three hits under their belt to “achieve” the rank...wild shyt
 

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Oh you’re right...the Sicilians got the idea of “the commission” from the Americans. I believe the term Cosa Nostra even started with the Americans and made its way to Sicily after.

There’s a cupola in Sicily that’s the ruling body or commission over there. There’s even been pentitos (rats) that spoke of a “super cupola” that’s made up of the top Cosa Nostra, Camorra, ‘Ndrangheta bosses along with political leaders (Beelusconi is as corrupt as they come), the Vatican and other powerful Masons. They all supposedly belonged the the Propoganda 2 Masonic lodge and have since moved on to more secretive lodges.

‘Ndrangheta is def the most cult like with their rituals and levels of membership.

Also check out Sacra Corona Unita...they’re the Pugliese mafia and are the most connected to the trade routes to the east...the balkans most specifically the Albanians and the Lebanese and Turks. They have a rank that the member needs to have at least three hits under their belt to “achieve” the rank...wild shyt

I'd rep twice if I could.

fukk it, I'm about to go down the rabbit hole. This is the right lecture....

 
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I'd rep twice if I could.

fukk it, I'm about to go down the rabbit hole. This is the right lecture....



Yessir. Saviano is a captivating speaker and an excellent writer. He has another one with a Camorra rat that’s translated, another about El Chapo....and some others w no subtitles...I’ve been searching for the Paolo Di Laura (main inspiration for Don Pietro’s character) one too but I can’t find it with subtitles.
 

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The one with Maurizio Prestieri("boss di camorra") is also good, it has subtitles. He had a clan/crew that operated under Paolo DiLauro's umbrella.
There’s a cupola in Sicily that’s the ruling body or commission over there. There’s even been pentitos (rats) that spoke of a “super cupola” that’s made up of the top Cosa Nostra, Camorra, ‘Ndrangheta bosses along with political leaders (Berlusconi is as corrupt as they come), the Vatican and other powerful Masons. They all supposedly belonged the the Propoganda 2 Masonic lodge and have since moved on to more secretive lodges.
I caught that too, recently. Interesting that the pentito said that it was Cosa Nostra that sits at the top of the supercupola, not the Ndrangheta or the Freemasons. I wonder if that's true or not.

It's hard to believe it at first since Cosa Nostra's waned and Ndrangheta's power has risen since the 90s. But Cosa Nostra was on top for half a century. They've been partners with the CIA and the Vatican in everything, Operation Gladio, the transatlantic heroin syndicate, washing money for bigshots all over the world. The elite members of Ndrangheta and Camorra were also inducted as Cosa Nostra members for further legitimacy and protection(like the Levante's in the show). Cosa Nostra also instructed Pablo Escobar's cartel on dealing with the state, and helped organize the various Russian families when the Soviet Union failed.That kind of power doesn't just go away.

As for the Freemasons, the popular conception is that the Giulio Andreotti types sit "above" the mafias, but the relationship is probably hardly that simple. Ever since Riina was arested there was talk of the blackmail files he had on Italy's elites that could bring the country down. The files supposedly passed to Provenzano and then to MMD. Well, it's been 25 years since then but many of those people(and their successors, family or otherwise) are still around.

It seems in recent years Cosa Nostra also made attempts at reunification and the state tried to nip it in the bud. Yearlier in the year Leandro Greco was arrested trying to reestablish the traditional cupola. It remains to be seen whether he succeeded or not.
 
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The one with Maurizio Prestieri("boss di camorra") is also good, it has subtitles. He had a clan/crew that operated under Paolo DiLauro's umbrella.

I caught that too, recently. Interesting that the pentito said that it was Cosa Nostra that sits at the top of the supercupola, not the Ndrangheta or the Freemasons. I wonder if that's true or not.

It's hard to believe it at first since Cosa Nostra's waned and Ndrangheta's power has risen since the 90s. But Cosa Nostra was on top for half a century. They've been partners with the CIA and the Vatican in everything, Operation Gladio, the transatlantic heroin syndicate, washing money for bigshots all over the world. The elite members of Ndrangheta and Camorra were also inducted as Cosa Nostra members for further legitimacy and protection(like the Levante's in the show). Cosa Nostra also instructed Pablo Escobar's cartel on dealing with the state, and helped organize the various Russian families when the Soviet Union failed.That kind of power doesn't just go away.

As for the Freemasons, the popular conception is that the Giulio Andreotti types sit "above" the mafias, but the relationship is probably hardly that simple. Ever since Riina was arested there was talk of the blackmail files he had on Italy's elites that could bring the country down. The files supposedly passed to Provenzano and then to MMD. Well, it's been 25 years since then but many of those people(and their successors, family or otherwise) are still around.

It seems in recent years Cosa Nostra also made attempts at reunification and the state tried to nip it in the bud. Yearlier in the year Leandro Greco was arrested trying to reestablish the traditional cupola. It remains to be seen whether he succeeded or not.

I take it as Cosa Nostra’s profile went majorly low key after all the maxi-trials and they reorganized with less violence and more corruption/institutional schemes. There’s no doubt that ‘Ndrangheta is more powerful within the drug trade but it seems Cosa Nostra is more powerful politically and with the Vatican and masons.
 
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