Gomorra - The Series

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Have a lot to say about this, may write something more substantial later as I finished Season 1 in October, on Sundance......Easily one of my favorite first seasons of television ever, top 10 all time. Also, one of the best portrayals of organized crime ever, this is how I want to make movies/series, and this is how these bullshyt Hollywood 'Cartel' movies should look like, but they wont. Americans like our easy digestible villains and heroes, our happy enough endings, our pat romances.....The gorgeous cinematagraphy, realism, nihilisim, social commentary, and the music...The music was incredible, and a force in the series itself. In next year or so, I'll get to Italy, and for sure will go to Naples, and see these places for myself.
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They have some good material from Cartel stuff though

Traffic for example

or from series Narcos was also my shyt. :wow: It paints the scene from the outside (viewpoint of the Amercans/law) too but it's also rather the "no real heroes" type of cold realism.

And of course Sicario from last year... :damn:It will make up trilogy or rather a three part anthology. And the next part called Soldado will be directed by Stefano Sollima who directed many episodes from Gomorra's first season and the first three episodes of the second season.

same guy will direct Zerozerozero a series in plans from the book (with the same name) from the guy (Roberto Saviano) who originally wrote the book Gomorra and it's about the international cocaine trafficking with cartels, mafiosi, politics and all the minor and major players.
 
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Of course, 'Traffic', I could probably say that movie changed my life, and formed some of my early positions on drug trafficking, income inequality, poverty, morality, politics, etc....That's dope about 'Soldado', though the origin story for Del Toro's character was outrageously unbelievable, I liked everything but the story in Sicario, and I felt their message and focus was muddled, and very typical American misunderstanding of issues. I'll have to check out zerozerozero....thanks.
 
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Of course, 'Traffic', I could probably say that movie changed my life, and formed some of my early positions on drug trafficking, income inequality, poverty, morality, politics, etc....That's dope about 'Soldado', though the origin story for Del Toro's character was outrageously unbelievable, I liked everything but the story in Sicario, and I felt their message and focus was muddled, and very typical American misunderstanding of issues. I'll have to check out zerozerozero....thanks.
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Of course, 'Traffic', I could probably say that movie changed my life, and formed some of my early positions on drug trafficking, income inequality, poverty, morality, politics, etc....That's dope about 'Soldado', though the origin story for Del Toro's character was outrageously unbelievable, I liked everything but the story in Sicario, and I felt their message and focus was muddled, and very typical American misunderstanding of issues. I'll have to check out zerozerozero....thanks.
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I felt that the main focus of the move weren't eve the Cartels but how the law enforcement tries to deal with them on ways what they usually don't show in order to keep a positive image of themselves and it raises but leaves open the question whether only extreme violence can be the answer to extreme violence or not.
I would also note that it's hard to a movie to grab and take on such a complicated problem in just 2 hours. Especially now that I'm more used to series ad that type of build up. That's why it's good that Sicaro wasn't just one movie but they continue and show the same or connected problems from different angles, approaches.

the character's story wasn't explained thoroughly but I felt it wasn't meant to on the first place, and they will probably mean that to a later (maybe Soldado) part of the big story.
 
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For me, it's main theme is the similarity of it all, all these alike forces (the Federal judicial agencies, the local authorities, the wealthy elite the justice system, organized crimes) and all their victims (drug addicts, poverty classes, families killed, children impacted) keep hurtling forward in this grotesque and seemingly unstoppable fury.....

Re: 'Sicario' and Benicio Del Toro, an attorney, whose family, was massacred for some reason by Colombians.....In Juarez? Perhaps this occurred in the 1980's and early 90's, when Colombians would have had the pull to hit someone in Juarez....Those movies have white men who are out of touch throwing headlines at a screenplay. Colombia!! Juarez!! Nogales!! Nevermind the fact he turns into a 'Punisher' style character with apparent military training and elite combat skills....it was preposterous.
 
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For me, it's main theme is the similarity of it all, all these alike forces (the Federal judicial agencies, the local authorities, the wealthy elite the justice system, organized crimes) and all their victims (drug addicts, poverty classes, families killed, children impacted) keep hurtling forward in this grotesque and seemingly unstoppable fury.....

Re: 'Sicario' and Benicio Del Toro, an attorney, whose family, was massacred for some reason by Colombians.....In Juarez? Perhaps this occurred in the 1980's and early 90's, when Colombians would have had the pull to hit someone in Juarez....Those movies have white men who are out of touch throwing headlines at a screenplay. Colombia!! Juarez!! Nogales!! Nevermind the fact he turns into a 'Punisher' style character with apparent military training and elite combat skills....it was preposterous.
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I think story was that his family was killed by one of the Mexican cartels, more precisely the boss who he kills at the end of the movie was the one who killed his family so he killed him and his family as a payback plus he also had a professional motive since now he works for the Colobian to restate them

so Colombians didn't kill his family
 
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It was also available on Sundance website. Still waiting for season 2.
 
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