Glenn Greenwald and Bill Maher debating Islam, US foreign policy, and Muslims

[Type Username Here]

@Type Username Here I disagree with the position that Islam is inherently "violent" and we've had this discussion, and you've made some interesting points to that effect but I think the main idea as to why Glenn said this to Maher is the subtle undertone of Maher's rabid hypocritical Zionism.

No doubt, I can understand 100% why Glenn did what he did, I just took issue with some of Glenn's stances. He seems to downplay the interpretation of Islam that leads to violence, while in the same breath pointing out crimes that Christianity and Judaism has committed. Islam IS violent though if it is interpreted in a certain way, which is my point throughout this thread.

I can understand with 100% certainty if someone from Yemen is having drones kill everyone, how that might lead to wanting to retaliate. What I don't understand is how some cracker who grew up in America, and just converted to Islam feels the need to commit an act of terrorism if it isn't based on his interpretation of his duties as a Muslim, since he has no connection to those getting bombed outside of religion. You see my point?

Maher had a right wing religious nut, Netenyahu, on a giant screen on his show and lobbed him softballs during a conflict. He is in my estimation less of an islamaphobe but more of some kind of paternalistic racist, and this is from years of watching his show.

He's a zionist through and through. I said that the first post. He's also a dumbass hypocrite, telling the GOP they need to accept the facts on Global Warming while telling people not to get vaccinated based on some debunked report.

I agree with Maher on a lot of things, and he can be entertaining and articulate on a lot of issues, but he's an a$$hole hypocrite.

 

[mastermind]

I actually stopped watching his show a few months ago... something he said set me off I think it was him defending the drone program to someone. Either way I don't care really about some stupid jokes from a cac who actually in my view probably doesn't harbor many prejudices against blacks per say, but every time he talks about a foreign culture or society that isn't anglo-saxon, he is always quick to point out how savage they are, especially but not limited to Arabs.

this is weird because that was the last time I watched his show too. That drone debate disgusted me. I dont even remember the particulars, but his main point was that they were all terrorists or future terrorists so kill them now. I had the : face and stopped watching his show since that point.

Dude is a western racist. He hates all cultures that are not western european influenced.


And Maher is a massive Zionist.

 

[Techniec]

Debate?



That smug faccot maher got crushed

 

[ogc163]

His back and forth with Sam Harris encapsulates my issue on this matter. A lot of his tweets as well.

This article he broaches several times on the issue of Islamic violence being strictly based on US foreign policy, and not religious affiliation.





The same motive for anti-US 'terrorism' is cited over and over | Glenn Greenwald | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

In that article he still is not saying or even implying that religion is trivial, and he is definitely not saying Islamic violence is "strictly based on US foreign policy,and not religious affiliation". Those quotes you put up showcase his issues with the mainstream view that is not very nuanced and downplays US foreign involvement. He is on twitter right now going back on forth with David Atkins who also put forward the trivializing Islamic influence argument in this article Hullabaloo

 

[PikaDaDon]

That ether...the shyt that makes your soul burn slow.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Maher sounded silly saying we had nothing to do with the MB's rise in Egypt...like we didn't prop up Mubarak for 3 decades.

 

[Statik]

Greenwald is a clown and cant be taking serious. that article on Sam Harris was disgusting.

 

[intilectual recipricol]

why narrow it down to islam though. That is where Maher makes his mistake. He should include all abrahamic religions as theyre holy books endorse and promote violence and genocide.

 

[Type Username Here]

In that article he still is not saying or even implying that religion is trivial, and he is definitely not saying Islamic violence is "strictly based on US foreign policy,and not religious affiliation". Those quotes you put up showcase his issues with the mainstream view that is not very nuanced and downplays US foreign involvement. He is on twitter right now going back on forth with David Atkins who also put forward the trivializing Islamic influence argument in this article Hullabaloo

Yes, and Atkins pretty much deads Glenn Greenwald right here:

It would be hard to argue that the average citizen of Iran or Saudi Arabia has suffered more greatly from racism and violence than have the victims of U.S. backed military juntas and death squads in Guatemala, Honduras, Argentina or El Salvador. Yes, the U.S. coup against Mossadegh in Iran and interposition of the corrupt Shah surely led to the rise of the Ayatollahs. But it's also true that the U.S. did far worse in Chile when we deposed Allende in favor of the brutally awful war criminal and genocidal maniac Augusto Pinochet. Few honest people would argue that Iran suffered more mightily under the Shah than Chile did under Pinochet. It's not as if the U.S. didn't covet Chile's copper just as surely it did Iran's oil. And yet, Chileans didn't take hostages at a U.S. embassy, nor are they threatening to use nuclear weapons against the rest of the world. Did the U.S. arm the Afghan mujahideen against the Soviets, and then abandon them to their fate? Yes, and it led directly to the rise of Bin Laden. But we also did the same thing in Vietnam with far worse carnage. Somehow our far less atrocious involvement in Afghanistan led to the current predicament, while not even the horrors of My Lai set in motion a Vietnamese assault on the World Trade Center.

Glenn does downplay the religious motivation when it comes to Islam, while at the same time pointing out the violence perpetrated in the past by Christianity and Judaism, which seems like doublespeak to me.

The US has stomped all over the globe, including indiscriminately dropping bombs in DEFENSE of Muslims in the Balkans. Yet, you don't see Milosevic supporters bombing marathons or planes, do you? Glenn absolutely pushes this aside as if it doesn't exist, and frankly, I don't understand it.

Maybe you can explain it?

 

[Poppa_Dock]

bill maher really needs to shut the fukk up and let his guests talk. Im watching this episode now and he won't let that british dude talk at all bc he knows dudes about to son him.... shyts gross

 

[Hulk Hogan]

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SHOULD WE IGNORE THE RELIGION FACTOR IN CASES LIKE THESE, BROTHER?

 

[Techniec]

UAE rape victim jailed - Sunday Night - Channel 7 - Yahoo!7 TV - Yahoo!7 TV



SHOULD WE IGNORE THE RELIGION FACTOR IN CASES LIKE THESE, BROTHER?

That's a domestic issue

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

UAE rape victim jailed - Sunday Night - Channel 7 - Yahoo!7 TV - Yahoo!7 TV



SHOULD WE IGNORE THE RELIGION FACTOR IN CASES LIKE THESE, BROTHER?

Wow... disgusting.

 

[Techniec]

Yes, and Atkins pretty much deads Glenn Greenwald right here:



Glenn does downplay the religious motivation when it comes to Islam, while at the same time pointing out the violence perpetrated in the past by Christianity and Judaism, which seems like doublespeak to me.

The US has stomped all over the globe, including indiscriminately dropping bombs in DEFENSE of Muslims in the Balkans. Yet, you don't see Milosevic supporters bombing marathons or planes, do you? Glenn absolutely pushes this aside as if it doesn't exist, and frankly, I don't understand it.

Maybe you can explain it?

Muslims are turnt up

Seriously Islam breeds a warrior ethic and many Muslim societies are tribal and patriarchal which pumps up Honour, so get back is a must

On top of that those societies dont really have much going for em hence people dont have nothing to lose. Its the reason we dont see many Turkish or Malaysian suicide bombers

 

[thekingsmen]

Sadly Bill Maher continues to show his Zionist Views towards anything Arab. He isn't a atheists, so stop believing so.