Glenn Greenwald and Bill Maher debating Islam, US foreign policy, and Muslims

[Type Username Here]

Absolutely nothing.

That was my only point to counter Greenwald's claims in his writings, which he was alluding to in the show.

But you're also right, all the context is important as well. I've been guilty of just claiming it was all religious in nature, which isn't true.

 

[Ritzy Sharon]

hold up, this obnoxious Zionist piece of shyt let my brother Glenn on?

I need to load up the shisha pipe and enjoy this etherous piff on the big screen.

 

[USSInsiders]

That was my only point to counter Greenwald's claims in his writings, which he was alluding to in the show.

But you're also right, all the context is important as well. I've been guilty of just claiming it was all religious in nature, which isn't true

intellectual South Florida gang

 

[Type Username Here]

intellectual South Florida gang

You already know.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Interested in seeing this. I will get to my DVR recordings of Bill Maher and Vice eventually. The NBA playoffs are putting every leisure activity on backlog.

 

[ogc163]

Maher is a zionist idiot who tells people that they should follow what science says but in the same breath will tell people not to vaccinate their children because of a debunked report.

I fully understand why Greenwald did what he did, and I'm a big fan of him, but if you follow him on twitter or read his works, he constantly trivializes the religious motivation of these attackers.

I do follow him and have read his works and I don't think he trivializes the influence of Islam, he does place more of the blame on policy more than on religion. What are some pieces where you feel he trivializes the role of religion?

 

[NZA]

charles cooke is a c*nt

 

[Type Username Here]

I do follow him and have read his works and I don't think he trivializes the influence of Islam, he does place more of the blame on policy more than on religion. What are some pieces where you feel he trivializes the role of religion?

His back and forth with Sam Harris encapsulates my issue on this matter. A lot of his tweets as well.

This article he broaches several times on the issue of Islamic violence being strictly based on US foreign policy, and not religious affiliation.

In the last several years, there have been four other serious attempted or successful attacks on US soil by Muslims, and in every case, they emphatically all say the same thing: that they were motivated by the continuous, horrific violence brought by the US and its allies to the Muslim world - violence which routinely kills and oppresses innocent men, women and children.

With that deceitful premise in place, so many Americans, westerners, Christians and Jews love to run around insisting that the only real cause for Muslim attacks on the US is that the attackers have this primitive, brutal, savage, uncivilized religion (Islam) that makes them do it.

The same motive for anti-US 'terrorism' is cited over and over | Glenn Greenwald | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

 

[¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

Are you asking me?

Anyone in general that has an opinion on the matter.

 

[Broke Wave]

@Type Username Here I disagree with the position that Islam is inherently "violent" and we've had this discussion, and you've made some interesting points to that effect but I think the main idea as to why Glenn said this to Maher is the subtle undertone of Maher's rabid hypocritical Zionism.

Maher had a right wing religious nut, Netenyahu, on a giant screen on his show and lobbed him softballs during a conflict. He is in my estimation less of an islamaphobe but more of some kind of paternalistic racist, and this is from years of watching his show.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

@Type Username Here I disagree with the position that Islam is inherently "violent" and we've had this discussion, and you've made some interesting points to that effect but I think the main idea as to why Glenn said this to Maher is the subtle undertone of Maher's rabid hypocritical Zionism.

Maher had a right wing religious nut, Netenyahu, on a giant screen on his show and lobbed him softballs during a conflict. He is in my estimation less of an islamaphobe but more of some kind of paternalistic racist, and this is from years of watching his show.

Yeah I admired him a lot when I was a younger adult, but over time as I've got more learned, I can see a lot of his blindspots. One main one is that the racial stereotype jokes he makes aren't just jokes...he believes them. He is kind of a paternalistic racist.

 

[Broke Wave]

Yeah I admired him a lot when I was a younger adult, but over time as I've got more learned, I can see a lot of his blindspots. One main one is that the racial stereotype jokes he makes aren't just jokes...he believes them. He is kind of a paternalistic racist.

I actually stopped watching his show a few months ago... something he said set me off I think it was him defending the drone program to someone. Either way I don't care really about some stupid jokes from a cac who actually in my view probably doesn't harbor many prejudices against blacks per say, but every time he talks about a foreign culture or society that isn't anglo-saxon, he is always quick to point out how savage they are, especially but not limited to Arabs.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

I actually stopped watching his show a few months ago... something he said set me off I think it was him defending the drone program to someone. Either way I don't care really about some stupid jokes from a cac who actually in my view probably doesn't harbor many prejudices against blacks per say, but every time he talks about a foreign culture or society that isn't anglo-saxon, he is always quick to point out how savage they are, especially but not limited to Arabs.

He says some cringe-worthy shyt sometimes. I remember he was talking to someone about Obama's political weakness and literally said he was surprised to see how weak Obama was because Obama's black and he thought black men were all tougher than other men.

He wasn't telling a joke meant to poke humor at stereotypes, he said that shyt straight-faced in a sober discussion.

 

[Broke Wave]

He says some cringe-worthy shyt sometimes. I remember he was talking to someone about Obama's political weakness and literally said he was surprised to see how weak Obama was because Obama's black and he thought black men were all tougher than other men.

He wasn't telling a joke meant to poke humor at stereotypes, he said that shyt straight-faced in a sober discussion.

Yeah LOL that "gun in the pants shyt" What a dikkhead

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Yeah LOL that "gun in the pants shyt" What a dikkhead

I ain't even talking about that one. I can even understand the gun comment a bit because it was in the context of a monologue joke. The one I'm talking about was in the midst of a serious discussion.