Mr Uncle Leroy
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its all about money now?
GLAAD: Network has chosen profits over African American and gay people...
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Well here's the thing:
Most people who watch Duck Dynasty were anti-gay to begin with. So as angry as gay people and such got, it's not like they could "vote with their feet" so to speak.. Most of them didn't watch the show to begin with, so their anger didn't affect anyone's bottom line.
Nasty hateful rednecks, on the other hand, got pissed and stopped watching the show, which got the network's attention.
Most people who watch Duck Dynasty were anti-gay to begin with. So as angry as gay people and such got, it's not like they could "vote with their feet" so to speak.. Most of them didn't watch the show to begin with, so their anger didn't affect anyone's bottom line.
Nasty hateful rednecks, on the other hand, got pissed and stopped watching the show, which got the network's attention.
No. It's a MONEY issue.
Nobody ever claimed the beard guy had no constitutional right to hate on gay people. Hick viewers stopped watching the show while gay viewers never watched the show to begin with. So one group was able to affect the bottom line and the other wasn't.
Look at their popular shows:
http://www.aetv.com/shows
American Hogger? Seriously?
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
its always about the money
i just dont see it as an important issue aside from it being about freedom of speech, if they had cancelled the show that would be fine with me also since A&E has rights too, but i disagree that this is something that black people need to mobilize about or make a priority
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
ok, and why would i care?
...because you called it a freedom of speech issue and it never, ever was.
Nobody ever claimed he didn't have a constitutional right to mock gay people on TV or in magazines. That was never an argument.
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
yeah it wasnt a legal or constitutional question because the government wasnt involved but it was a question about what was acceptable for a person to say in public,
when people say its freedom of speech they are extending the constitutional concept of freedom of speech to the commercial world and im saying the standard has to be that you are harming somebody not just simply expressing an opinion, so he had a legit defense IMO that he was just expressing opinion
and vice versa the corporate entity also has the right to cancel a contract unless they are harming somebody or breaking the contract
i think its an issue for a lot of people but it's just not an issue that makes me lose sleep at night unless you show me somebody is being harmed, the issue of harm is why i file it under freedom of speech, there is nobody being harmed therefore its not really that serious
None of that has anything to do with freedom of speech. That's all a debate on public opinion, which shifts regardless of what people are free to say.
Also, if we're not talking about a "legal" issue, then why bring up "standards" or "legit defense?" There's no defense to be made because there's no legal issue in the first place.
That's why we had this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_and_present_danger
And now have this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
that is why i said IMO, im using my standards not legal standards, which yeah, can change from person to person
They outchea and they are not scared to piss off gays and blacks anymore. The target audience is already down with the anti everyone else movement so this force will only get stronger and more blatant.
That black people were happier before civil rights?
The shyt he said about homos was on point though.
That black people were happier before civil rights?
The shyt he said about homos was on point though.
fakkits ruined civil rights along with cac women and immigrants.
NERO
All Star
I got no quarrel with gay people so not sure what all the animus toward them in this thread is about. I do have an issue with their often misguided and usually opportunistic co-opting of our civil rights movement but I do think it is somewhat hypocritical for us as black Americans to complain because most of us, if we are truthful, can admit that we are enjoying a legacy of civil rights that we(our generation) did nothing to earn. We complain about white privilege and rightfully so but then we enjoy unprecedented freedoms as black people in a country where we could be hung on a courthouse lawn 50 years ago for things like miscegenation. You don't climb the ladder and then kick it down so others can't follow you up to the next level. That is just selfishness. All that being said A&E are completely within their rights to run whatever the network censors will allow (are there cable network censors?) and whoever doesn't like it is free not to watch. The print and news media is just doing what they always do in hyping a controversial story to drive up clicks/buys/ratings. Fu*k 'em. By the way I wouldn't piss on that bigoted dumb*a*ss if he was on fire and i had just run through a couple tallboys of steel reserve.