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I agree with you bruh. I’m not the one putting down players/eras.

You are.

Bron is in my top 10.

How is it putting down an era or a player if today's players are just better?

That's just a fact, we can sit here and watch the tape and be like...

"Well damn..."

We ain't talking about enjoyment or whatever, we are simply saying, today's players, on average are superior to the average player in the 90s.

We got legit NFL tight ends, Linebackers and Defensive Ends running around on the court, at SF/SG, doing stepbacks Js.

Luka Doncic is 6'7, 6'8, between 217-230 and you wouldn't consider him a super athlete, but almost the same size as Kevin McHale and look at what he can do with the ball.
 

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NO HES NOT.

HES JUST A PRODUCT OF THE SYSTEM.

HES A CAPABLE PASSER WHO HAPPENS
TO BE ON A TEAM THAT RUNS THE BALL MOVEMENT THROUGH HIM.

BUM ASS NOAH AVERAGED 5 DIMES
AND WAS A MVP CANDIDATE WHEN THIBS
DID THE SAME WITH HIM
AND HES NOT EVEN A SCORING THREAT.
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It’s not about his assist average

It’s about his flair and creativity and doing things that other centers haven’t really done like running P&R’s as a ball handler and anchoring an elite offense as a point center
 

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NO THEY ARENT BUILT LIKE DUMARS
WHICH IS WHAT YOU SAID.


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And Ive always said, MJ changed the make up of SG position by his presence. shyt...I remember when MJ was drafted he was viewed as a tweener SG/SF. Moving him to SG gave birth to the wave of bigger defensive SG
 

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It’s not about his assist average

It’s about his flair and creativity and doing things that other centers haven’t really done like running P&R’s as a ball handler and anchoring an elite offense as a point center

Jokic is legit probably the best passer in the NBA and probably top 10 passer in NBA history regardless of position.
 

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It’s not about his assist average

It’s about his flair and creativity and doing things that other centers haven’t really done like running P&R’s as a ball handler and anchoring an elite offense as a point center

GIVE CREDIT TO HIS COACH
FOR BEING A FREE THINKER.

MANY BIGS COULD HAVE DONE THOSE THINGS
BUT THEY DIDNT PLAY IN A POSITIONLESS ERA.

EVEN PLUMLEE DOES THE SAME
shyt ON OCCASION.


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GIVE CREDIT TO HIS COACH
FOR BEING A FREE THINKER.

MANY BIGS COULD HAVE DONE THOSE THINGS
BUT THEY DIDNT PLAY IN A POSITIONLESS ERA.
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Using Wilt as an example is foolish because he was stat padding to prove a point and played like 48 minutes per game in a league with 120 possessions so his assists gonna be high

I seen centers toss it over head in the post, throw great outlets, wrap around passes but none have made the advanced reads Jokic has with the unorthodox creativity and flair he has

Don’t want nobody quoting me talking bout Bill Walton and Wes Unseld :russ:
 

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How is it putting down an era or a player if today's players are just better?

That's just a fact, we can sit here and watch the tape and be like...

"Well damn..."

We ain't talking about enjoyment or whatever, we are simply saying, today's players, on average are superior to the average player in the 90s.

We got legit NFL tight ends, Linebackers and Defensive Ends running around on the court, at SF/SG, doing stepbacks Js.

Luka Doncic is 6'7, 6'8, between 217-230 and you wouldn't consider him a super athlete, but almost the same size as Kevin McHale and look at what he can do with the ball.

You do know they inflate players height and weight right? And it has gotten worse with time.
 

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Using Wilt as an example is foolish because he was stat padding to prove a point and played like 48 minutes per game in a league with 120 possessions so his assists gonna be high

I seen centers toss it over head in the post, throw great outlets, wrap around passes but none have made the advanced reads Jokic has with the unorthodox creativity and flair he has

Don’t want nobody quoting me talking bout Bill Walton and Wes Unseld :russ:

WEBBER AND VLADE WERE DOING THAT shyt
20 YEARS AGO.


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You do know they inflate players height and weight right? And it has gotten worse with time.
No tf they don’t :dahell:

They’re weighing these guys from AAU onto the NBA you really see their gains

KD is STILL billed at 6’9 when he’s 6’11

If anything they should update the shyt more often it’s not about what they’re reporting it is VISIBLE my guy
 

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No tf they don’t :dahell:

KD is STILL billed at 6’9 when he’s 6’11

If anything they should update the shyt more often it’s not about what they’re reporting it is VISIBLE my guy

THEY ACTUALLY DO.

YOU LISTED THE ONE EXAMPLE
OF THE ONLY nikka WHO LIKES
TO BE LISTED SHORTER THAN HIS PLAYING HEIGHT.

THE FAKE WEIGHT/HEIGHT shyt IS AN EPIDEMIC OVER THE LAST 15+ YEARS.

KAT AINT NO fukkING 7 FEET.

AS A MATTER OF FACT
KD AINT NO fukkING 6'11
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THEY ACTUALLY DO.

YOU LISTED THE ONE EXAMPLE
OF THE ONLY nikka WHO LIKES
TO BE LISTED SHORTER THAN HIS PLAYING HEIGHT.

THE FAKE WEIGHT/HEIGHT shyt IS AN EPIDEMIC OVER THE LAST 15+ YEARS.

KAT AINT NO fukkING 7 FEET.

AS A MATTER OF FACT
KD AINT NO fukkING 6'11
hi-res-09719a2a269932a0047f38abe287d2a7_crop_exact.jpg

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KAT was measured at 6’11 1/4ths

KD is 6’10 3/4ths don’t use shytty pics to make your case he’s also clearly at least 2 inches taller than Bron in that pic
 
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