Giannis is this era's Admiral, until further notice...

[ISO]

Before the last 3 seasons and during them, all we hear is how the Bucks are one of the favorites. Then we watch them flame out again and again. And then the excuses come again and again. No one made excuses for KG. Dwight use to get killed because of his limited offensive skillset. Giannis though doesn't have enough help

What exactly do y'all gain by doing this

With killing athletes for "underperforming" I dead ass wanna know

LBJ and KD are both considered the premier players of their generation y'all killed them for not winning they made the decision to join teams to maximize their skillsets and y'all killed them again but now that they're grizzled vets with multiple rings it's all cool.

Now we doing the same tired shyt with the next generation of players.

Three things are going to happen. Giannis will leave Milwaukee and win a couple rings alongside an elite shot creator maybe Young or Doncic. Giannis will thug it out and eventually win a championship in Milwaukee in a year with parity like Dirk did, Giannis will not win a championship but will still go down as an ATG critics will say his lack of a jumpshot held him back.

 

[ISO]

the disrespect to D rob is crazy imagine him in the league today. sheeesh

Y'all would be hating on him and throwing out hot takes.

 

[Trot LaRoc]

Isn't this the same for almost everyone?

Hakeem did without a superstar teammate twice

 

[VBM]

Dudes in here dissing Admiral will be the same ones saying Timmy had an all-world HOFer next to him from the jump and therefore shouldn't be above Kobe all-time.

Jazz made light work out of Shaq (and young Kobe) in 97 and 98.

Dream made light work out of Shaq and Penny in 95.

Only HOF'er (in his prime) Admiral had next to him was Rodman before Duncan came along. San Antonio Spurs Hall of Fame | Basketball-Reference.com

 

[VBM]

Hakeem did without a superstar teammate twice

Drexler averaged 22, 6, 5 and 2 stls in the 94-95 season. And Rudy T said Horry is a Hall of Famer

 

[ISO]

Hakeem did without a superstar teammate twice

Drexler was All-NBA Third Team in 1995.

Also, Hakeem had the best three point shooting team and the clutchest collection of role players in league history. He got big games or big shots from Kenny Smith, Sam Cassell, Robert Horry, Mario Elie during his runs. There's a reason "Clutch City" was a thing in those years.

 

[Shadow King]

If he ends his career like Robinson he'd be all time great

D-Rob is generally a Top 20-25 player but a lot of that is the 2 rings with Duncan being the #1. If Tim is a Celtic D-Rob would be a lot lower, which may or may not be fair since that Spurs team wasn't really good outside of him but that's how it goes.

 

[Black White Sox Hat]

Who did D Rob have pre Duncan? Old ass Dominique? Rodman?Sean Elliot?

Saying that they were better than the Rockets teams on paper,i dont buy that.

 

[VBM]

Drexler was All-NBA Third Team in 1995.

Also, Hakeem had the best three point shooting team and the clutchest collection of role players in league history. He got big games or big shots from Kenny Smith, Sam Cassell, Robert Horry, Mario Elie during his runs. There's a reason "Clutch City" was a thing in those years.

Meanwhile, look how this game ended. Set the tone for the whole series. Hakeem has what should have been a backbreaking turnover, but Elliott misses TWO free throws, setting up Horry's game-winner.

 

[NatiboyB]

Hakeem did without a superstar teammate twice

he did it once. I won't let Clyde be down played but that first season he did take them to the ship same as Dirk did....Pistons are the only team I've seen without a bonafide superstar win it but that roster was put together in such a way that I'm not sure it can be repeated now.

 

[get these nets]

The Rockets definitely struggled in the 2nd half of the season after the trade. However, when the playoffs came around the Rockets proved that they just needed some time to gel Drexler into the team.

Who was the 2nd star to compliment Robinson on that 94-95 Spurs team?

On paper, yes the Spurs finished the regular season with a much better record - but on paper the Rockets (with their line-up) should have had a better record. Besides Robinson who on the Spurs was better than Drexler? Drexler was giving you 22, 6 rebounds and 4 assists. Sean Elliot, the Spurs 2nd best player, losses to Drexler on almost every major stat that year.

Rockets also had Cassell coming off the bench who was nearly as productive in his 22 minutes per game as Avery Johnson was getting 38mpg.

Robert Horry was also on that Rockets team. Yes, Spurs finished with a better record, but it's more because the record of the Rockets didn't reflect their true potential as indicated by the playoffs. Mario Ellie and Kenny Smith also came through often in clutch situations.

My point is, who did D Rob have as a second star that era? In the West it was Stockton and Malone, Kemp and Payton, Barkley and Kevin Johnson (Danny Manning was also giving you buckets), Olajuwon and Drexler (during 94-95). It was tough to win without a second legitimate star.

Wrote in last post that true contending teams have to have roster that complements their star. More about that, than star power or offensive firepower. Drexler was still a great player at the time, and like you said....come playoff time, he had adjusted to the team.

That Spurs roster had Sean Elliot, Dennis Rodman, some vets and some outside shooters. Thought it was a good set of talent around the centerpiece do-everything center, Admiral. Elliot never quiet lived up to billing, but he was a solid good player.

Dream won the year before without Drexler. In fact, the finals experience from the year before showed up as the Rockets vets and shooters delivered when it was their time.

Second star is sort of overused in basketball discussions. Scottie Pippen, for example was the ultimate complementary player more than being a second star.

 

[murksiderock]

Dudes in here dissing Admiral

No one in here has done this...

 

[Morose Polymath]

Book Report done got tired of the Bron Comparisons so he went on the offensive!

 

[NYC Rebel]

I'm in agreement.Always said D Rob was the most overrated player of the 90's era.Giannis is his reflection in the 2010's.Shiny stats, but no true glory.

These trash cliches you NBA fans come up with.

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

I'm glad that in 2021 people are being clear and open about not knowing shyt and having awful takes.

I agree