Giannis is this era's Admiral, until further notice...

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Has there been a more apropos comp, in regards to both's stature in The League in their primes and what they did once the tournament began every year?

Admiral did a full four years at college plus a two-year service stint, so at Giannis' age (26) he was only in Y2. But think of it in the sense that thru Y8, which is where Giannis is, and where Robinson was in '97, here's where they line up in an accolades comp:

Admiral thru Y8 ('97)
•MVP, DPOY, ROY, scoring title, rebounding title, blocks title
•7x All-NBA (4x 1st), 7x All-D (4x 1st), 7x All-Star

•7 playoff appearances: 54.7 wins/year, 0-1 WCF, 3 Rd1 outs
•repeatedly emasculated by Mailman Malone, Dream, Barkley in superstar matchups in playoffs

Giannis thru Y8 ('21)
•MVP, DPOY, MIP, AMVP
•5x All-NBA (3x 1st), 4x All-D (2x 1st), 5x All-Star

•5 playoff appearances: 52.2 wins/year, 0-1 ECF, two Rd1 outs
•emasculated repeatedly in superstar matchups vs Kawhi, Butler, KD in playoffs

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Beyond that, I think time has caused all but the most astute basketball heads to forget how people viewed Robinson in his prime. Like Giannis, he was shattering all kinds of efficiency records and "dominance" records and was seen as a physical specimen who could do things a guy at his position traditionally couldn't do. Robinson was a dominant player and revived a Spurs franchise that had been dormant since the Gervin years...

Dream winning those two rings really changed the narrative on his career, because before that there was fluidity in the early 90s as to the next best player to Mike, and Admiral was very much in that conversation and universally accepted as a Top 5 active player. Similarly, Giannis burst on the scene and many people consider him a Top 5 player, with both sharing in common a repeated breakdown in confidence, productivity, and efficiency from otherwise efficient players, once games shifted into playoff intensity...

So there are plenty of parallels, and I'm a fan of both but until and unless Giannis turns this trend around with the kind of performances expected from guys his stature, he's this era's David Robinson.....and Robinson never turned it around. The best thing that ever happened to him is getting hurt and a better player walking thru the door to enable him to play a lesser role without the backlash and responsibility given a guy who annually puts up historic regular seasons. And most people still rate Admiral as a Top 20 All-Timer (i don't have him that high), so maybe Giannis' true potential will be unlocked when he gets to play with someone better than him...
Giannis is just missing a reliable jumper and it go time:yeshrug:
 

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shytting on the Admiral is what we doing right now??
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Not a bad comparison
Admiral was more skilled, so the playoff futility was harder to explain. I believe that he lacked the extra competitive gear.

Even as a number 2. When paired with Duncan, in playoff matchup against Shaq and Lakers he would vanish. Shaq didn't really have a chance defensively against DRob. Even at an advanced age. He had the face up game and shooting range, but just folded against Shaq.
 

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Giannis is just missing a reliable jumper and it go time:yeshrug:

How long are we gonna say this about Giannis? Teams defend him the same way every year and he comes back the same way the following season. His j has gotten slightly better the last 3 years but clearly not to a point where opponents view it as a threat...

Not a bad comparison
Admiral was more skilled, so the playoff futility was harder to explain. I believe that he lacked the extra competitive gear.

Even as a number 2. When paired with Duncan, in playoff matchup against Shaq and Lakers he would vanish. Shaq didn't really have a chance defensively against DRob. Even at an advanced age. He had the face up game and shooting range, but just folded against Shaq.

Bruh some of these dudes in here are completely dense. nikkas took this thread as a shytting on Robinson thread, clearly we have a ton of slow posters on here that contribute to the lack of quality basketball discussion...

I didn't really get to see Robinson but I'm somewhat of a historian so I knew the questions about his competitive fire have been out there since he was in his prime. And it's one of the more perplexing things because he walked in the door lighting The League on fire, lotta people think he had all the tools to be greater than he actually was!
 

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No way they come back and win the series after the ass whooping in game 2.
I don't think they win the series, hell they might get swept, I'm just saying that they might actually make it competitive. The loss they took in game 2 was just bad, it was as if they gave up. Kyrie and KD didn't even combine for 60 and they got blown out:picard:
 

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I mean I said that Giannis wasn't a true number 1 and got killed for it. I never picked this Bucks team to make it out the East but I expected them to have a competitive series with the Nets. Granted the Nets have looked good but they still need to win 2 more games and anything can change if the Bucks win the next 2. That said, Giannis needs to improve his game to the point he isn't a liability at the mid range and free throw line:hhh::hhh:
The problem isn’t that giannis not a #1. The problem is Middleton and holiday aren’t #2.
 
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