GGG's reputation as being "the most feared" boxer today

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Vivek Wallace from "Left-Hook Lounge Radio" and eastsideboxing.com breaks down this aura of invincibility currently being written/spoken/insuinated from the boxing media in regards to GGG.

I, of course, agree 100% with his response and wanted to post it here to get yall's take on it and the question posed to him.

Marc T. (Athens, GA):
I’m tired of hearing all of the talk about Golovkin and how he’s “the most feared man in Boxing”. Andre Ward’s team sent HBO a direct statement saying that he wants the fight, & Golovkin responded in saying he’s basically “not ready” for Ward. What are your thoughts about GGG and this whole “most feared” reputation being built around him?


Vivek W. (ESB):
For starters, I think there’s a slight hint of truth to it. Strong promotion and network support can be credited for this growing cult following, slash, bootleg version of an almost Tyson-like mystique. When we look back at Tyson, many of us were young enough to buy into the ‘Boogeyman’ persona that he embodied; but as adults when you look back, it’s very easy to note that most of the men he destroyed had no chance against you and I on two weeks training, let alone him! Our entire perception of Tyson – (one of my personal favorites) – vanished when he faced someone who couldn’t be intimidated and wouldn’t be denied. There lies both my question and answer relative to GGG.

One of the most compelling arguments to support your position on GGG is the fact that this is the second year in a row where his team has promised that we’ll see “a huge year” to follow the one being closed out. In December of 2013 we heard them say that the PPV events and big names would be part of 2014. As we close out 2014, we’re hearing them say the same thing for 2015. If his own team has to promise this two years in a row, is there any way to dispel the reality that he’s clearly not there yet? It’s not about hate or deceit, it’s about reality, and as I often say, I’d rather be hated for being honest, than loved for lying! Bottom line, GGG hasn’t totally proven to be what HBO and the media suggest.

I can understand HBO pushing him as an up and coming fighter trying to rise to the top. But that’s quite a difference from being “feared” or claiming that this particular talent is already there. Late 2012, we heard that Team GGG was “putting everyone on notice from 154-175″. This is important to note, because supporters will say “he’s cleaning out the competition at ’60, and shouldn’t be rushed up to face someone at ’68”. Those same supporters will say Ward or Mayweather “should go up in weight to challenge themselves”, yet never identify this irony, despite those men being proven talents. This is where I draw problems with the drastic promotion of GGG.

If these statements aren’t going to be applied across the board, they should remain under the table and never spoken. I’m very skeptical about using the word “hype”, and I feel that Golovkin is beyond that term; however, when you have an entire network enabling your decision to face a lower tier of opposition, I have to co-sign that statement. HBO forced fighters like Ward and Rigondeaux to face a certain level of opposition, in the case of Ward, totally discounting the fact that he was coming off a lengthy injury lay off. I’ve seen none of that pressure on GGG to face better opposition, despite their staunch support of him. Are they enabling this ‘hype machine’ for personal benefit?

How is this any different from Deontay Wilder, or the pre-mega fight versions of Canelo and Chavez Jr? I have an issue with the sport building Golovkin into a mega-fight, PPV level fighter on the strength of this very weak level of opposition. Fans will say “Quillin, Ward, and guys like Anthony Dirrell aren’t big enough draws to face him”. Well, those guys are certainly a cut above those the “C” lister’s he has faced, yet a notch below the mega money fighters of the world. He can’t get to that mega-money level without passing that level. Ward is a totally different level, and Golovkin was proper in saying he’s “not ready”. Either way, he needs bigger names on the resume. Anything less fails the test.

http://www.boxing247.com/top-story-...waltersdonaire-khanalexander/35485#more-35485
 

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Late 2012, we heard that Team GGG was “putting everyone on notice from 154-175″. This is important to note, because supporters will say “he’s cleaning out the competition at ’60, and shouldn’t be rushed up to face someone at ’68”. Those same supporters will say Ward or Mayweather “should go up in weight to challenge themselves”, yet never identify this irony, despite those men being proven talents. This is where I draw problems with the drastic promotion of GGG.

If these statements aren’t going to be applied across the board, they should remain under the table and never spoken. I’m very skeptical about using the word “hype”, and I feel that Golovkin is beyond that term; however, when you have an entire network enabling your decision to face a lower tier of opposition, I have to co-sign that statement. HBO forced fighters like Ward and Rigondeaux to face a certain level of opposition, in the case of Ward, totally discounting the fact that he was coming off a lengthy injury lay off. I’ve seen none of that pressure on GGG to face better opposition, despite their staunch support of him. Are they enabling this ‘hype machine’ for personal benefit?

How is this any different from Deontay Wilder

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I think they are gonna try and have him break Bernard's record of Middleweight title defenses:snoop:


I keep hearing about him having 13 successful defenses of his title lately....the boxing media is sneaky:wow:
 

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I think they are gonna try and have him break Bernard's record of Middleweight title defenses:snoop:


I keep hearing about him having 13 successful defenses of his title lately....the boxing media is sneaky:wow:


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Why Martin Murray is not the right opponent for GGG

October 26th, 2014
By E. Martinez:

Last Saturday evening the next opponent for WBA/IBO/WBC (Interim) Middle Weight Champion Gennady “GGG” Golovkin (31-0, 28 KO’s) was finalized. Martin Murray (29-1-1, 12KO’s) of England was selected to face Golovkin this coming February in Monte Carlo. Murray was chosen after a 7 round technical decision victory over Domenico Spada, in a fight that was a less than exciting affair.

Murray is a durable opponent whose popularity is probably not what it should be at this point in his career due to his inability to fight in the United States for legal reasons. Nonetheless, Murray is best known for two fights, neither of which he won.

Murray fought to a controversial draw with Germany’s Felix Strum in a fight that many fans believed Murray should have won. Murray followed up that fight with a match against former Lineal Middle Weight Champion Sergio Martinez in front of a crowd of what looked to be about a million people in Buenos Aires, Argentina.

Murray fought the majority of that fight with a high guard and a boring style and did next to nothing offensively for the first half of the fight. Aside from a flash knockdown produced by Murray it was a seemingly forgettable fight in which Martinez was awarded a close, but correct, points victory.

Murray’s most recent victory was over Spada, who is the same person that was defeated by former interim WBC Middle Weight Champion Marco Antonio Rubio. Golovkin quickly destroyed Rubio who previously looked impressive in his bought with Spada.


http://www.boxingnews24.com/2014/10/why-martin-murray-is-not-the-right-opponent-for-ggg/



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Golovkin retained his 160-pound title for the 12th time, tying him for third place on the all-time list for most middleweight title defenses. He is tied with Hall of Famer Marvelous Marvin Hagler and Felix Sturm, who avoided Golovkin for years when he was his mandatory challenger. Hall of Famer Carlos Monzon made 14 defenses and Bernard Hopkins, who is still active at age 49 and now a unified light heavyweight titleholder, owns the record with 20.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/i...ound-knockout-retain-middleweight-world-title


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even though you have these up in coming fighters with similar accomplishments you can tell who is the better product... you is real or who might be.

even though Cleverly was coming up with his wins i knew the product wasnt for real.
 

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I like the countermovement going on when it comes to the GGG Wave. It helps keep things balanced. It's completely fair to question how legit GGG is until he faces a top tier fighter. It's also fair to call HBO out for hyping him up the same way they overhyped Donaire. But I think a lot of the problem is just a combination of bad luck and bad timing for GGG. Look at all the things working against him finding legit competition at 160:

1.The reigning MW Champ was :flabbynsick: status and took a payday over a tough fight against the top contender in his division.
2. The lineal champ is now a JMW that will probably fight another JMW for MW supremacy.
3. The MW division is very thin
4. TR/GB/HBO/Showtime/Haymon issues have kept GGG away from Quillin and others.

None of these things are GGG's fault. That's why I don't think it's fair for the article to compare him to Ward. Ward cleaned out his division a while ago and is lingering at 168 for a big name to move up. I guess he could pull a Maravilla/Punisher and move up, but why shouldn't he at least try to push for the MW title? If he can't get the winner of Cotto/Canelo next year, THEN I think it's time to move on and start chopping down some names at 168.

I also don't think it's fair to blame him for the level of competition when he's staying so busy. Who wouldn't want guys to fight 4 times a year? It's great, even if he fights cans half the time. Do people want him to sit around for a year like Khan? Let's just appreciate a KO artist that stays active and is ready to prove himself against anyone.................


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Why Martin Murray is not the right opponent for GGG

October 26th, 2014
By E. Martinez:

Last Saturday evening the next opponent for WBA/IBO/WBC (Interim) Middle Weight Champion Gennady “GGG” Golovkin (31-0, 28 KO’s) was finalized. Martin Murray (29-1-1, 12KO’s) of England was selected to face Golovkin this coming February in Monte Carlo. Murray was chosen after a 7 round technical decision victory over Domenico Spada, in a fight that was a less than exciting affair.

Murray is a durable opponent whose popularity is probably not what it should be at this point in his career due to his inability to fight in the United States for legal reasons. Nonetheless, Murray is best known for two fights, neither of which he won.

Murray fought to a controversial draw with Germany’s Felix Strum in a fight that many fans believed Murray should have won. Murray followed up that fight with a match against former Lineal Middle Weight Champion Sergio Martinez in front of a crowd of what looked to be about a million people in Buenos Aires, Argentina.

Murray fought the majority of that fight with a high guard and a boring style and did next to nothing offensively for the first half of the fight. Aside from a flash knockdown produced by Murray it was a seemingly forgettable fight in which Martinez was awarded a close, but correct, points victory.

Murray’s most recent victory was over Spada, who is the same person that was defeated by former interim WBC Middle Weight Champion Marco Antonio Rubio. Golovkin quickly destroyed Rubio who previously looked impressive in his bought with Spada.


http://www.boxingnews24.com/2014/10/why-martin-murray-is-not-the-right-opponent-for-ggg/



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Scust @ how they're trying to pass off that wba "regular" title that GGG previously held (which is really an interim belt which the WBA uses to enforce mandatories) and pretend that whoever he fought & defeated while holding that interim belt, counts towards a legit world title defense. :snoop:

And also trying to compare historically GGG defending a damn interim belt to dudes who captured and defended undisputed/lineal titles.:what:
 
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