Germany: Surge of violent crime due to Migrants

[ExodusNirvana]

Jesus fukking Christ just say y'all hate non-whites and be done with it...fukk man all this word dancing and pseudo eloquent fukkboy shyt

 

[mbewane]

That's not the point brody. The point is why take on another country's baggage when you already have your own? Especially when these migrants are coming from countries with low humanistic standards to begin with.

We deal with this in America all the time. If an illegal immigrant goes on a murder spree and kills 5 people and we ask how he got here in the first place and why wasn't he deported immediately, is it logical to bring up Jeffrey Dahmer?

Aren't you engaging in what you liberals like to label "whataboutism" when faced with arguments you don't find palatable?



Like I said, I knew you would have an excuse. But I'll grant you that. So why don't you find a way to legally sponsor another sophisticated migrant breh to stay with you? You seem like a smart guy, it shouldn't be too hard. In fact, why stop at one, why not two, or three, or ten? Are you slacking? .....or maybe it's because you simply aren't personally equipped with the resources to do so

Save the accusations of xenophobia and racism breh. They are tired and ineffectual.

And here you are making the same tired generalizations about people you know nothing about. What do you think of people who say Blacks are lazy, stupid criminals and rapists, I guess you agree with that huh?

Small course in immigration to France : to come you either have a family member who sponsors you, you get married, you come for studies or for a job. I don't have family links with random people around the world, nor will I marry random brehs from around the world, nor can I open an uinversity, nor do I have a business to employ someone from Mali. Since you know how immigration works here, please tell me what my other options are.

Oh and by the way, you'll be glad to learn that helping undocumented migrants can actually be considered a crime in France. Meaning you can get a hefty fine and/or go to prison for helping a human being in need.

Oh matter of fact I can't even help my very own nephew stay legally in France because he would first have to go back to Africa, get accepted in an university here, THEN apply for a visa and MAYBE come back. Sounds a little less straightforward now don't it?

And what are you actually doing to make sure Black and Brown people stay out of your White Europe? Maybe you can join these fine gentlemen, since you seem to care so much : A Hungarian mayor makes a show of "migrant-hunting"

I mean listen to yourself breh, this is some of the weakest most entitled bullshyt ever. You are exactly right, they chose those standards for themselves, in their countries, within their borders. Let these refugees do the same in their own countries instead of running behind the skirt of the West and then biting the very hands that feed them.

The irony of this coming from a country that was built from scratch by people who came from elsewhere, migrants, and refugees

I'm glad you're not pretending war is sole cause of the migration crisis Europe faces. It may not even be the primary cause.

As for why I'm worried about Europe, their immigration policy is self destructive and I want to see them live and thrive. I love the contributions in art, science, and literature the West has given to the world. I wouldn't risk great change there if it could be avoided. And this can be avoided.

Mass migration to the West simply will never address the causes of the migration in the first place. It benefits the few (compared with the overall population of the migrant's home country) who can make it to the West while leaving instability and crushing poverty in place. This is not a solution, its a feel good pill.

Yeah me too, but "The West" has had great contributions in bombing, killing, pillaging, raping, exploiting all these migrants home countries too, you also love that?

You sound like Sarkozy talking about the positive aspect of colonization

 

[GetInTheTruck]

And here you are making the same tired generalizations about people you know nothing about. What do you think of people who say Blacks are lazy, stupid criminals and rapists, I guess you agree with that huh?

Small course in immigration to France : to come you either have a family member who sponsors you, you get married, you come for studies or for a job. I don't have family links with random people around the world, nor will I marry random brehs from around the world, nor can I open an uinversity, nor do I have a business to employ someone from Mali. Since you know how immigration works here, please tell me what my other options are.

What tired generalizations? It's a fact. These people are coming from places where they will throw you off a roof for being gay, where women are looked at as second class human beings, where religious minorities are killed outright, where tribal and clan conflict are commonplace.....again, what generalizations? Then they come to their host European country, refuse to assimilate, and people like you of course blame the country for not providing the resources for them to assimilate. Then they have children, send them to mosques where some shady Saudi outfit is funding some extremist psycho Imam to preach. Then these European born children become radicalized, commit acts of terrorism, just for people like you to turn around and say "SEE!!!, IT'S NOT MIGRANTS DOING IT IT'S EUROPEAN BORN CITIZENS!!!" Breh, fukk outta here, honestly.

And like I said, you have excuses up the wazoo to explain why it isn't feasible for you to personally house a refugee/migrant in your own home. That's real easy to do when you can just shuffle responsibility down the line to the next person. All you're doing is proving my point. You didn't answer my question, when European society and the social safety nets you cherish and enjoy collapse because of overload, what will you do and where will you go? What will be the excuse then?

The irony of this coming from a country that was built from scratch by people who came from elsewhere, migrants, and refugees

This country can figure out how to pay back the descendants of African slaves for the work they put in, they don't owe any other immigrant shyt. And I say that as a child of Indian immigrants.

 

[mbewane]

Some of y'all "brehs" should really stop and think about the rhetoric you keep repeating, because at some point you end up lost in it and forget we're talking about actual human beings here. Tables turn fast too, you don't want to be in the situation where you're the one to flee.

And if you can't do that, at least spare Europe of your backwards views, we already have enough of those over here and hopefully we don't follow you guys down the Trump road. So much for showing us the light lol

 

[mbewane]

What tired generalizations? It's a fact. These people are coming from places where they will throw you off a roof for being gay, where women are looked at as second class human beings, where religious minorities are killed outright, where tribal and clan conflict are commonplace.....again, what generalizations? Then they come to their host European country, refuse to assimilate, and people like you of course blame the country for not providing the resources for them to assimilate. Then they have children, send them to mosques where some shady Saudi outfit is funding some extremist psycho Imam to preach. Then these European born children become radicalized, commit acts of terrorism, just for people like you to turn around and say "SEE!!!, IT'S NOT MIGRANTS DOING IT IT'S EUROPEAN BORN CITIZENS!!!" Breh, fukk outta here, honestly.

And like I said, you have excuses up the wazoo to explain why it isn't feasible for you to personally house a refugee/migrant in your own home. That's real easy to do when you can just shuffle responsibility down the line to the next person. All you're doing is proving my point. You didn't answer my question, when European society and the social safety nets you cherish and enjoy collapse because of overload, what will you do and where will you go? What will be the excuse then?



This country can figure out how to pay back the descendants of African slaves for the work they put in, they don't owe any other immigrant shyt. And I say that as a child of Indian immigrants.

So you're the type of immigrant who hates other immigrants huh

Trying hard to fit in?

Indian, on that hindu nationalistic BJP wave? Or on that "let's beat the crap out of Black students" wave? Just asking

We know the story, those who get in last sometimes want to close the door behind them

Maybe you're right, we should let you immigrants out

 

[GetInTheTruck]

So you're the type of immigrant who hates other immigrants huh

Trying hard to fit in?

Indian, on that hindu nationalistic BJP wave? Or on that "let's beat the crap out of Black students" wave? Just asking

We know the story, those who get in last sometimes want to close the door behind them

Maybe you're right, we should let you immigrants out

You can engage in ad hominems or you can actually try to structure an argument with merit. Otherwise do yourself a favor and don't waste your time.

 

[ill]

Some of y'all "brehs" should really stop and think about the rhetoric you keep repeating, because at some point you end up lost in it and forget we're talking about actual human beings here. Tables turn fast too, you don't want to be in the situation where you're the one to flee.

And if you can't do that, at least spare Europe of your backwards views, we already have enough of those over here and hopefully we don't follow you guys down the Trump road. So much for showing us the light lol

Lol if I have to flee America I’m sure Syria or another middle eastern country will welcome my Jewish ass with open arms.

 

[mbewane]

You can engage in ad hominems or you can actually try to structure an argument with merit. Otherwise do yourself a favor and don't waste your time.

The argument I've structured is actually based on experience, numbers and refuting the tired xenophobic generalizations you've been pushing, but we both know you don't care because we're talking mostly about Black and Arab people.

Now here I am asking questions to a migrant who hates migrants on ANOTHER continent, it's actually an interesting case study. Understanding the mecanics of hate is key.

I'm not wasting any time breh, who knows I might see some other far-right people here and have to debunk their propaganda too

 

[mbewane]

Lol if I have to flee America I’m sure Syria or another middle eastern country will welcome my Jewish ass with open arms.

You can always seize more Palestinian land, you'll be all right

 

[ill]

You can always seize more Palestinian land, you'll be all right

Seize *back* Jewish homeland ** fixed

 

[mbewane]

Seize *back* Jewish homeland ** fixed

Of course, we all know Palestinians don't even exist

 

[ill]

Of course, we all know Palestinians don't even exist

The Jordanian descendants of Ottoman invaders surely exist.

 

[mbewane]

The Jordanian descendants of Ottoman invaders surely exist.

Btw, what are you doing in someone else's homeland? Did the native americans invite you over?

 

[GetInTheTruck]

The argument I've structured is actually based on experience, numbers and refuting the tired xenophobic generalizations you've been pushing, but we both know you don't care because we're talking mostly about Black and Arab people.

Now here I am asking questions to a migrant who hates migrants on ANOTHER continent, it's actually an interesting case study. Understanding the mecanics of hate is key.

I'm not wasting any time breh, who knows I might see some other far-right people here and have to debunk their propaganda too

LOL what? First of all, I was born in the United States, so I'm personally not a "migrant." Second of all, my parents had nothing in common with those people over there destroying Europe. We were never on any type of government assistance and my parents had to wait their turn to come here, they weren't given any handouts based on some sob story. My pops started a business back in the day with his own money that he earned working in hotels and shyt like that throughout the 70's, after that he was able to buy two homes on the same block in Queens. The rest of my extended family are professionals specializing in the fields of science, technology, and medicine....you know, actual skills that can benefit a host nation. They didn't grow up rich either, they grew up eating off banana leaves and shyt like that. And oh yeah, all of my family except for the elders knew how to read and write English before they even set foot in this country

You want to engage in a case study, that's cool. You can start with finding out why Indians, who also come from a place that was dominated by colonialist Europeans (and Muslims) never had to flood another nations borders demanding special treatment and favors

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Some of y'all "brehs" should really stop and think about the rhetoric you keep repeating, because at some point you end up lost in it and forget we're talking about actual human beings here. Tables turn fast too, you don't want to be in the situation where you're the one to flee.

And if you can't do that, at least spare Europe of your backwards views, we already have enough of those over here and hopefully we don't follow you guys down the Trump road. So much for showing us the light lol

You have no arguments, only moral grandstanding. We don't live in a perfect world. Why would I pretend to be a saint when I'm not one. The Black American vietnam veteran who can't get a meal is a human being too. That's someone I can say I owe a lot to. I don't owe anything to someone from some fukked up war-torn Islamic country. That's their baggage.