Germany showing out: Chanting BLACK LIVES MATTER in front of US Embassy in Berlin
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Ezekiel 25:17
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This thread is all over the place. If you're exotic foreign you can go anywhere in the world and have women giving you draws. You can go to Russia and get Russian p*ssy, that doesn't mean Russia loves black people
That said I believe Germany got some good in em. Whether they're more racist or not, I cant say
I'd have to submerge myself in the culture, live and work there to be sure. These other cats on something else
That said I believe Germany got some good in em. Whether they're more racist or not, I cant say
I'd have to submerge myself in the culture, live and work there to be sure. These other cats on something elsethegreatestever
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This is true. I was stationed there, and that shyt was some of the best years of my younger days. A lot of brothers never leave Germany once they get there.
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Chrishaune
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Because having a black president made Americacs trust worthy?
And that's part of the point I was making. Somebody else already tried that angle breh. The reality is racism is going to be something we have to deal with in some form until the end. It's been that way for centuries and millennia....
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Love is a long road.
Jesse Owens himself said that he was treated better in Nazi Germany then he was in the United States.
Ezekiel 25:17
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You were exotic and foreign, of course women are going to be interested. You can go to other white countries and get the same reaction. Russia, Sweden, Switzerland, etc.
I'm sure Germany is cool but we can't be sure unless you work at their corporations, and go to their schools
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Genau .Corporate brehs grow tired of the "you are c00l because you are (/look) american, can dance, are good at sports and remind me of something I saw on MTV" spiel you get from the "well meaning, non racist" Army fed chicks. Most of them are not well educated anyway. Corn fed and
sometimes but that's another story.When it comes to careers it is hard work. Doable but getting more right wing as time passes. Brehs in high positions in German companies are rare and if you are in the position (courtesy of a benefactor) you will, in general, be attacked from all sides. I used to work at a major German company that employed too many brehs in senior IT positions for the locals and the locals went buck-wild. They more-or-less got rid of the last breh to arrive and still hold grudges against the rest of us.
In schools streaming (to academic or technical schools) is done at an early age and the allocation is not done blind. Visible minorities get overwhelmingly streamed towards the non-academic part of the school system.
Interesting commentary re. this:
"In Konrad Werner's blog last week, we were given many examples of anecdotal evidence of racism in German schools. And let's be honest here: you don't need to dig particularly deep to find horrific stories. Horrific is the right word – I was literally horrified when I arrived in Germany. Teachers in the staff room s******ing while telling me that German students whose parents wanted them to go to Gymnasium (grammar school) were "actually Arabic", teachers yelling at kids in Wilmersdorf – in a class made up of around 50 perecent immigrants – that they should be grateful they weren't in Kreuzberg, where all the kids were called Ayse or Ali. I was gobsmacked. But after a while, I kind of got used to it."
Amok Mama: Are German schools systematically racist?
In certain parts of Germany (most of the NW, Central and East Germany - minus maybe Cologne and Berlin) brehs would be hard pressed to get a job at McDonalds or even as a security guard.
Germany is a different society than the US. Some aspects of it are more racist, some are less so. You don't have the sheer brutality of US racism in Germany, but that is because Germany as a society is less brutal than the US. It has a welfare state, which means the poverty aspect of structural racism is less pronounced. There is less everyday violence and no mass incarceration of the black population.
On the other hand, Germany hasn't even acknowledged the extend of it's own racism. The academic and social discourse on racism is lightyears behind the debate on racism in the US or even the UK or France. Basically, Germans think that there is no racism anymore since the Nazis lost power in 1945. Germanies identity as a country is heavily defined by having overcome national socialism and being a nation that atoned for the sins of it's past. That means that it is extremely unwilling to confront the evils and inequalities that still exist in it's society, which makes it very hard to talk about racism. A lot of Germans won't consider you a true German if you aren't white, because they have an ethnic definition of the German people.
In essence, your life expectancy as a black man is probably higher in (West) Germany. You're less likely to become a victim of police violence (it does happen, but not nearly as often as it does in the US, even if you account for the fact that the black population is a lot smaller.) or die some other form of violent death. You're less likely to spend large parts of your life in prison or become homeless and will have better accesse to healthcare. But that is largely because Germanies social policies are different from those in the US, not because Germans are less racist.
On the other hand, your chances of landing a middle class job are probably a lot slimmer than in the US. The same is true for a University education. There are almost no black people in white collar jobs, let alone leadership positions. You can probably count the number of black people in the police force on one hand, if there even are any.
There is less hatred for black people because Germany did not have slavery and therefore lacks all the baggage that comes with that. Their attitude to black people is mainly influenced by their colonial heritage (which is still largely unacknowledged) and the narrative that went along with it. That means they don't consider you a threat like white americans do in the US, they mainly think of you as a less intelligent form of human life.
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Not sure, Germany created Nazis but they hated Jews. Every black person i know thats been to Germany Hasn’t had issues with how people were treated . Im sure Germany would’ve had issues with any minority group in the past but I’m not going with what ifs and hypotheticals.
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I agree with a lot of that but would add that "racism" doesn't have to include "hatred". The standard average position of Germans when they encounter someone black is negative and even sometimes their "positives" include stereotypes about music, entertainment and sports. Plus there is lots of "hate". It's an everyday occurrence and there is no viable breh sub-section of the population which you can operate in for most of what you need. I tried to avoid them but if you need a lawyer, plumber, etc sometimes you have no other choice.
I have worked for some of the biggest companies in Germany (incl. 2 current DAX 30. 1 previous) in specialist roles and generally there have been few to no local brehs there. You walk in on the first day and people are looking at you sideways. The only place where that didn't happen to the same degree was at Deutsche Bank and that is because of the influence of the Bankers Trust / US imports and London dominating the bank in Europe.
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What were those people doing in Germany?
Were they in the South / Frankfurt / Berlin?
Were they professionals? Did they move outside of their expat bubble and apply for local jobs?
Did they speak German?
Were they in the Armed Forces?
I didn't mean racism has to include hatred. My point was that in the US hatred plays a larger role in what motivates racism and how it expresses itself, meanwhile in Germany, racism is more influenced by the colonial concept of non-white people being an inferior form of life with black people being at the bottom of human development.