Genius Aaron Schwartz (founder of reddit) killed himself due to Obama's DOJ

daze23

Siempre Fresco
Joined
Jun 25, 2012
Messages
31,967
Reputation
2,692
Daps
44,049

zerozero

Superstar
Joined
May 6, 2012
Messages
6,866
Reputation
1,250
Daps
13,494
JFJ9b.jpg
 

theworldismine13

God Emperor of SOHH
Bushed
Joined
May 4, 2012
Messages
22,666
Reputation
540
Daps
22,602
Reppin
Arrakis
because combined with the power of the internets, it's just too easy to get 25k+ people to sign any silly petition (like the one for a Death Star). blame the trolls

What's wrong with the Death Star one, we were just having outchea
 

No1

Retired.
Supporter
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
30,068
Reputation
4,736
Daps
66,972
@BarNone you might find this interesting:

The Volokh Conspiracy » The Criminal Charges Against Aaron Swartz (Part 1: The Law)



basically I think you need all types of people in this world.. we need the lawyers like you or the guy who wrote this who're just like "okay is this prosecution technically overreaching?" and you need people like Aaron or his supporters who're like "screw the legalities this situation is crazy and we should raise hell and change something" Both the dispassionate and activist factors are needed in the social dynamics...

This actually makes it look like the charges are legit, and he knew what he was doing was illegal. In fact, I can say after reading the relevant law (if the law referenced in there is correct), that all of the charges were legit. Which confuses me as to why you would post up that image just now.

I still want to see the plea deals that he was offered that he and his lawyer refused. Is part 2 up yet?
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Type Username Here

Not a new member
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
16,368
Reputation
2,385
Daps
32,641
Reppin
humans
The man stole free words!

Only thing that needs to be said.

Don't try to rationalize with future shytty lawyers who advocate the status quo of corruption.

This overzealous prosecution was direct retribution to Swartz's "anti-Government" activities.
 

Type Username Here

Not a new member
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
16,368
Reputation
2,385
Daps
32,641
Reppin
humans
This is the same Department of Justice, under both Administrations, that sanctioned and refused to charge KNOWN torturers and wall street criminals.
 

No1

Retired.
Supporter
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
30,068
Reputation
4,736
Daps
66,972
The man stole free words!

Only thing that needs to be said.

Don't try to rationalize with future shytty lawyers who advocate the status quo of corruption.

This overzealous prosecution was direct retribution to Swartz's "anti-Government" activities.

You've become a psycho who shouts out accusations without proof and contradicts yourself. You weren't too happy when I and @daze23 said that the constitution should probably be redone in many ways, yet here you are crying about the LAW. Was, I the source of that law, no zerozero was. But that's what happens when you're perpetually angry, you can't see what's in front of you. You're forced to argue about unrelated tangents because you're unable to discuss an analyze the issue in front on you.

This "shytty lawyer" was the guy in here who said that he thought one of the interpretations of the law was wrong. The guy who is an Aaron apologist zerozero posts an article saying that I'M WRONG and you get amd at me :wtf: Somewhere in your training you never learned the cross-section between principle and rationality. You've slowly digressed into a lunatic with a short temper and obsession since October, leave the leftist and socialist arguments to @newarkhiphop he's better at it than you. You've ruined the honesty of 90% of every discussion you've participated in for about two months now.

Insert your grandstanding response here. No, I won't be responding to you on this or anymore at all, you're a lost cause. A pity.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Type Username Here

Not a new member
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
16,368
Reputation
2,385
Daps
32,641
Reppin
humans
Once again, the future lawyer demonstrates that he doesn't understand the difference between a social contract and regular laws. The law expert doesn't understand the ideas of a binding agreement between the government and the populace. The law expert also advocated throwing the Constitution completely away, when we already have a process to change it.

The lawyer also doesn't understand that no one is saying the man was obviously guilty of certain crimes but those charges were asked to be dropped by the two parties involved. The lawyer also doesn't understand the absurdity of such a sentencing and overzealous prosecution. The lawyer also doesn't understand the utter hypocrisy of the DOJ's selective application of laws, especially when it benefits certain segments of the society.

Hopefully the lawyer will have a successful career as a DUI attorney and hopefully he won't get anywhere near any significant legal position, otherwise we might get another John Yoo.
 

Heretic

GOLDGANG...
Joined
Aug 7, 2012
Messages
23,708
Reputation
6,621
Daps
67,042
Reppin
Alabama
Even though I'm pretty sure the majority of those charges were posturing and scare tactics, I'm also not completely convinced that this whole situation isn't deeper than it appears. However based on what we have to go on, I can say that there is a possibility that he would have had to do some time if found guilty but definitely not 50 yrs. I think he martyred himself to a degree but it has more to do with his mental state moreso than fear I believe. His death would have been more powerful if he were found guilty and maybe spoke on it from jail in detail before he died but instead we're left with a bunch of what ifs.
 

Type Username Here

Not a new member
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
16,368
Reputation
2,385
Daps
32,641
Reppin
humans
Even though I'm pretty sure the majority of those charges were posturing and scare tactics, I'm also not completely convinced that this whole situation isn't deeper than it appears. However based on what we have to go on, I can say that there is a possibility that he would have had to do some time if found guilty but definitely not 50 yrs. I think he martyred himself to a degree but it has more to do with his mental state moreso than fear I believe. His death would have been more powerful if he were found guilty and maybe spoke on it from jail in detail before he died but instead we're left with a bunch of what ifs.

He definitely had depression issues, as I stated earlier. He seriously contemplated suicide before when he thought he was getting fired, if I remember correctly.

I don't think he did it to be a martyr, and I definitely think he broke some laws (trespassing for one it seems).

Doesn't change the fact that the prosecution went way over the line, especially after the two original parties asked for the lesser charges to be dropped.

But if you think this man deserved ANY time in a Federal Prison, you are fukked up in the head. Plain and simple.
 

Magnus Warhol

Black + White = Love
Joined
Jan 14, 2013
Messages
125
Reputation
0
Daps
53
Reppin
93 Million Miles from the Sun
once the government comes after you, its over. either you go to jail or pay your entire life savings defending your name. either way, the government is just as destructive as a terrorist.
:beli:
 
Top