Captain Crunch
Veteran
Will watch later
That's that ole okie doke.....................which is a jokie joke......
I'm sure there are cases where GM has out yielded organic crops, but there are plenty of cases where evidence is showing the opposite is true. Basically just search engine "crop yields, GM vs organic" or something like that...and you will find what i'm talking about.
The problem is all the other variables that come with GM..........yall understand when I say "Gangster Transgenic"...it takes the loot and leave the farmer nothing left, in other words in most cases no seads are produced as a normal plant would do, meaning you as a farmer have to pay for more seeds every year....plus, this is not simply combining a corn species from Mexico with a corn species from Peru.......or a coffee bean from Ethiopia with one from Indonesia.......that is basic cross breeding, the same thing you do with dog's or similar species.............they are talking about combining things that have no tendencies what so ever to be able to combine.....tomatoes with fish genes.....soy bean with insects genes, etc etec...and then to top it off put insectide/pesticide inside of the genes.....hence you/we are eating insecticide/pesticides...where exactly on the dietary chart does that become a nutrient. There are dozen of other things
Search engine "issues with GMO foods"....and see what comes up..way more than what I've said.....
And this is my response to not enough land, take Africa for instance, I've already written it......other countries are grabbing up land in Africa for their populations.....yet somehow we keep hearing that there is not enough land yet: "How Food and Water Are Driving a 21st-Century African Land Grab" - ProjectCOVO.com Global Forum
Although, as a person that understands that a lot of biodiveristy (see Brazil, Indonesia rainforests) is destroyed trying to grow crops....there are answers for that too. The key words to know from the below videos are organic, hydroponics, and aquaponics which can all be done indoors which means you don't have to deal with insecticides/pesticides and your not dealing outdoor conditions (seasons, climate, weather, pests):
"Designing the vertical farm" - economist.com/video
Designing the vertical farm - economist.com/video - YouTube
"The father of vertical farming" - economist.com/video
The father of vertical farming - economist.com/video - YouTube
"Will Allen Talks Us Through Growing Power" ** AQUAPONICS **
Will Allen Talks Us Through Growing Power ** AQUAPONICS ** - YouTube
"6,000 lbs of food on 1/10th acre" - Urban Farm - Urban Homestead - Growing Your Own Food
6,000 lbs of food on 1/10th acre - Urban Farm - Urban Homestead - Growing Your Own Food - YouTube
So if anybody tells you GMO is the ONLY WAY you can increase yields on scarce amounts of land look at em with the and direct them to these videos and similar ones.
Eventually we all will be eating GMOs coz the pupulation is increasing and the land is not
The entire population of the world can fit in texas with everyone having a middle class house. The land is just owned, by someone else.
They got those giant 'seed banks' hidden in these huge vaults in remote parts of the world for a REASON. They'll cover the world with this poisonous GMO seed TRASH and get their population reduction and after that's completed, they'll 'reboot' with all the seeds in the vaults. By the way, terminator seeds are genetically modified seeds so that the resulting fruit or vegetable doesn't produce any seeds. Pretty devious and disgusting.
Some of the stuff Monsanto is getting away with is disgusting:
300k Organic Farmers To Sue Monsanto For Seed Patent Claims - Slashdot
what do this shyt do to the insects tho? like when they pollinate?
spend a month or two in a foreign country and see how much weight you lose even if you stay eating good
nothing like natural vegetables and meat/poultry that was slaughtered and prepared the same day
spend a month or two in a foreign country and see how much weight you lose even if you stay eating good
nothing like natural vegetables and meat/poultry that was slaughtered and prepared the same day
Genetically Modified Food: What are Genetically Modified Foods?
When insects bite into the plant, the poison they ingest splits open their stomach, killing them. Though GMO foods that contain this toxin are resistant to insects, with continued exposure insects may develop a resistance to it, requiring ever-stronger herbicides and dangerous chemicals to keep crops insect-free. Resistant insects will then proceed to destroy crops as they did before, but now no pesticide will be effective, and we're back to square one.
Digestive Problems And Gm Wheat | LIVESTRONG.COM
Digestive Problems
Digestive problems may inhibit your body's ability to properly absorb and utilize the nutrients from your food. There are many conditions that can affect proper digestion, including inflammatory bowel disease, acid reflux, colitis, Crohn's disease and celiac disease, a condition directly related to wheat consumption. If you have a digestive disorder, you likely have to watch what you eat so your symptoms do not flare up. Depending on your digestive disorder, you may need to avoid wheat entirely or strictly limit it in your diet.
Research
According to the research, the majority of experts recommend that you opt for foods that are not genetically modified. The Western Organization of Resource Councils reports that there are few studies that focus on the safety of genetically modified foods, including wheat. Scientists studying the possible effects of genetically modified foods warn that they may cause new allergies and the resistance to antibiotics. In terms of digestion, they may make it harder for your body to absorb nutrients from food. Eric Herm notes in an article in "The Canadian" that studies have shown that genetically modified wheat may actually cause digestive problems because it is technically fake food rather than wheat in its natural state.
Considerations
If you have a gluten intolerance or celiac disease, genetically modified wheat is not for you. Genetically modified wheat can contain more gluten than regular wheat, which makes it even more damaging for your condition. Ask your doctor about alternatives to wheat if you cannot digest it. There are many other grains, such as oats and quinoa, that you may be able to tolerate with a digestive disorder.
http://theconversation.edu.au/will-superbugs-overwhelm-insect-resistant-gm-crops-3147
An insect pest that is supposed to be killed by a type of genetically modified cotton crop with an in-built toxin gene has developed resistance and is beginning to spread in parts of the United States, a scientific study has found.
It is believed to be the first documented example in the wild of an insect pest becoming resistant to this particular type of GM crop, which was thought to be immune from the problems that have plagued conventional pesticides. The bollworm moth is one of the most destructive pests of cotton crops. The resistant form of the moth's caterpillar was found in a dozen fields in the southern states of Mississippi and Arkansas between 2003 and 2006, when the surveys were conducted.
The GM cotton was developed by inserting a gene into the plant that is normally found in a bacterium called Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt). The bacterial gene produces a protein toxin that is poisonous to certain insects, but normally harmless in other animals.
http://www.newscientist.com/article...modified-crops-encourage-beneficial-bugs.html
Environmentalists might one day run barefooted through insect-rich fields of genetically modified crops. At least, they might if the conclusions of a two-decade study in China hold up.
Kongming Wu of the Chinese Academy of Agricultural Sciences in Beijing and colleagues looked at the impact on surrounding farms of Bt cotton, a GM crop that protects itself against bollworm larvae by making its own pesticide.
As pesticide sprays were no longer needed, beneficial predator insects such as ladybirds, spiders and lacewings could thrive and spill over onto neighbouring farms, where they ate aphids. This reduced the amount of pesticides neighbouring farmers used.
"Transgenic Bt crops with less insecticide use can promote population increases of predators in the whole agricultural landscape," says Wu.
Protesters in the UK recently threatened to disrupt a trial at Rothamsted Research in Harpenden of a GM wheat that gives off a scent repelling aphids. Rothamsted's John Pickett said the Chinese research is exciting because it shows that certain GM crops can spread beneficial insects to neighbouring farms.
Activist Post: Genetically Modified Mosquitoes Released in the Millions with No Risk Assessment
In case you didn’t know, genetically modified mosquitoes have been unleashed numerous times on planet Earth. Thus far, millions mosquitoes were released in various locations; Cayman Islands, Malaysia, and Brazil. Now, the GM mosquito creator Oxitec may release millions of genetically modified mosquitoes in the fields of crops, including olives, citrus fruits, cabbage, tomatoes, and cotton.
A UK-based company, Oxitec is the maker of all genetically modified insects. The company’s goal is to create a global market, where GM insects will be released around the world in order to take over natural insect populations. With the replacement of natural insects, the company hopes to wipe out disease carried by insects as well as those insects feeding on farmers’ crops. As scary as it might sound, thousands of insect species could be genetically altered in the near future.
Interestingly, Oxitec is supported by and very close with multinational pesticide and seed company, Syngenta. Syngenta, in addition to providing the world with destructive pesticides, has also been charged with covering up the deaths of many animals consuming the company’s GM corn. Being mainly interested in the market for GM agricultural pests, Syngenta as well as Oxitec are planning to commercialize GM insects around the world.
What’s especially scary about the release and future modification of thousands of species is that all of this will be done with little risk assessment. Not to mention not knowing of the vast number of negative outcomes that could occur from genetically modifying parts the biosphere.
Dr Helen Wallace, Director of GeneWatch UK said “The public will be shocked to learn that GM insects can be released into the environment without any proper oversight. Conflicts-of-interest should be removed from all decision-making processes to ensure the public have a proper say about these plans.”
Activist Post: Alert: Monsanto Rider Slips Through Senate, Hour Glass Running...
Alert: Monsanto Rider Slips Through Senate, Hour Glass Running...
Friday, March 22, 2013
The rider (Sec. 735) that would prevent courts from halting illegally planted GM crops (sometimes courts find fault with USDA-approved GM fields) slipped into the Senate Continuing Resolution spending bill HR 933 blind-sided an angry populace last week, giving little time to voice complaint before it was to go through the Senate
On Wednesday morning, HR 933 passed with the new rider dubbed by activists as the Monsanto Protection Act therein. The rider has nothing to do with proposed government spending to keep it running for the next six months.
Alliance for Natural Health (ANH-USA) reported earlier:
Once the CR passes the Senate, it will move to the House and Senate conference committee to resolve any differences between the House and Senate versions of the bill. Since this rider was not in the House version of the bill, there’s a slim possibility the rider will not be in the final duly passed version.
The general consensus on the Hill is that once the Senate acts, the House Appropriations Committee leadership is prepared to take the modified Senate CR directly to the House floor, possibly as early as Thursday. This is why urgent grassroots action is required to ensure that does not happen.
If this "must-pass" bill gets signed into law, it would be the point of no return for unhindered Monsanto havoc. They would trump federal court power and courts would not be able to use authority to stop sales or planting of any illegal or hazardous genetically modified crops. Strange for biotech giants to want this rider, as the USDA already gives them unheeded approval without safety testing of their crops. Rider (Sec. 735) clinches Monsanto power - if the USDA or court system wants to halt GM crops or revoke approval, they cannot. It's also an open backdoor to whisk in future approvals.
This action is detrimental to farmers who want to fight against Monsanto's patent infringement lawsuits, those for the preservation of organic crops against GM contamination, and our export economy as so many other countries have adopted GM bans. This Monsanto-driven rider is simply an industry ploy to continue to plant GM crops even when a court of law has found they were approved illegally - But it's being voted on urgently
Senator Jon Tester (an organic farmer), joined by Senators Boxer, Gillibrand and Leahy introduced an amendment (#74) to strike the dangerous rider from the CR. You can still voice your support for reviewing the Tester amendment - reportedly ignored and not added when this bill passed the Senate. Even if the Tester amendment voting is over with - make your opinion known to your Congress people, Obama, and let your Senators know your disappointment. It couldn't be easier with pre-formatted letters that go directly to your Senators.
Food Democracy Now! reports that there are 13 crops waiting for approval. The USDA is known for sweeping in approvals, letting Monsanto do their own safety evaluations, and taking their word. And,
The floodgates are literally open for Monsanto, DuPont and Dow Chemical’s new GMO crops that are resistant to more toxic chemicals like 2,4-D, Agent Orange and dicamba that will replace failing Roundup Ready GMO crops.
According to legal experts, this provision would create a precedent-setting limitation on judicial review and is a dangerous assault on fundamental federal and judicial safeguards needed to protect America’s farmers, citizens and the environment from the wanton approval of Monsanto's new GMO crops.
Food Democracy Now! was pivotal in the alerts and created a new form letter to sign in the following link here:
The Monsanto Protection Act could pass as early as next week and we need your help today. Click here to stop the Monsanto Protection Act as it heads to President Obama and tell your member of Congress to stand up for your rights and the Constitution
If you don't like the pre-formatted letters, then consider using them as a guide and write your own or better yet, call your Representative and respectfully contact the White House. Follow this link to enter your info and find your reps, senators, and contact the White House - guided info is there to help with your phone call. Or, you can call the Congressional switchboard at (202) 224-3121. To reach the White House to call President Barack Obama's line: (202) 456-1111.
This could be our last chance to stop Monsanto from corporate rule and full immunity! Tell President Obama here to block Sec 735, and Contact your Member of Congress to express your outrage at granting a blank check for Monsanto! Every voice counts!
Don't forget to thank the Senators who stood up and supported the Tester amendment if you live in Montana, California, New York, Vermont, Alaska or Connecticut - Senator Tester and his co-sponsors Senators Boxer, Gillibrand, Leahy, Begich and Blumenthal introduced the amendment to strip Section 735 from the bill.
Previous report from Food Democracy Now!:
Clearly Monsanto and the biotech industry are getting desperate and want to try an end run around a growing movement of farmers and citizens who are rejecting their products and calling for GMO labeling in an effort to make sure their new GMO crops can evade any serious scientific or regulatory review.
In classic form, the biotech industry has cleverly hidden their toxic plan under the deceptive title of a "Farmer Assurance Provision" (Sec. 735). In truth, the "Monsanto Protection Act" would allow the biotech industry to continue to flout American legal precedence and violate the constitutional separation of powers set forth by our Founding Fathers.
In short, the "Farmer Assurance Provision" is the greatest threat to farmers' and citizens' rights that Monsanto and the biotech industry has ever devised and it must be stopped - today!
This current rider is a response to the successful lawsuits that farmers have filed to prevent the sale, distribution and cultivation of GMO sugarbeets and GMO alfalfa, both of which were forced to stop from being planted while the USDA finalized full environment reviews.
Now, the new provision included in the Senate Continuing Resolution spending bill will allow biotech seed and chemical companies to openly skirt even minimal protections of human health and environmental concerns.
We need your help to make sure your Senator demands that Appropriations Chairman Mikulski pulls this dangerous and unconstitutional rider, and support any amendment that would strike the biotech rider from the new Continuing Resolution.
Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund is also alerting of another rider and urging contact to Senators to oppose the Monsanto rider and support of the Tester Amendments:
ANTI-COMPETITIVE RIDER (Section 742) - Livestock & Poultry Impact
The anti-competitive rider (section 742) deals with a law from the 1920s, the Packers and Stockyards Act ("PSA"), which was intended to provide protections against anti-competitive behavior in the livestock and poultry industries. In essence, the PSA was the Sherman Antitrust Act for agriculture. Although the PSA is a good statute, the USDA never properly implemented it. And that failure over the years has allowed large corporations to practice a variety of abusive, unfair, and deceptive practices that undermine the free market.
A coalition of family farmer, independent rancher, and consumer groups fought for a provision in the 2008 Farm Bill directing the USDA to issue implementing regulations under the PSA. And we won. But the fight wasn't over. The big meatpackers managed to hamstring many of the proposed regulations. And now they want to completely eliminate the few protections we did get, leaving the meatpackers free to continue their abusive practices that hurt farmers