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Biden and Obama? What jobs have they lost? And healthcare?
We are clearly not talking about the same thing here.

I’m referencing cases where former gov employees voted for Trump and are now laid off.

Im also referring to former vets who see the VA under attack. I’m speaking about the frustrated people at republican town halls.

I’m not sure how Obama and Biden came into the picture.
 

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When I think about it idk which pathway would have been better.

Would democrats shutting the down the government have been the best move.

I haven’t fully thought it out.

I did read something to the effect that it would have made it easier for DoGE to shut down other parts of the government.

And I believe I was also presented with a case a while back stating that the easiest way for Trump to consolidate power is for congress to be defunct, so then he can declare a constitutional crisis, thus temporarily eliminating congress while they push through bs
It was no different than Trump releasing an executive order to gut 7 other agencies later that evening.

The CR contained language that essentially codified what the Republicans are doing now which will make overturning in court near impossible.
 

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Ok cool now that we have decided they no longer have power and only decorum let's reserve those thoughts for the primary. I dont want to see or hear about either putting their chess pieces on the board deciding what candidatewe chose. If a president defying executive orders and stating past pardons are now nullified isn't anything I'm with it
I understand you may be frustrated but you aren't really being reasoned here. You don't see the massive trap that Biden or Obama would fall into by responding to Trump?

You don't see it at all? Is your statement borne out of frustration or do you really think them responding would do anything but create more chaos at this stage?
 

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Is he a lunatic or a lunatic?



And Biden invited him into the Whitehouse smiling like an old fool. They never learn.

This whole bozo the clown said “Ooooh what’s that” when he signed executive orders on his first day.

In fact he said to the media while signing them “Oh this is a big one”. Bozo the orange needs to go sit down somewhere.
 

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When I think about it idk which pathway would have been better.

Would democrats shutting the down the government have been the best move.

I haven’t fully thought it out.

I did read something to the effect that it would have made it easier for DoGE to shut down other parts of the government.

And I believe I was also presented with a case a while back stating that the easiest way for Trump to consolidate power is for congress to be defunct, so then he can declare a constitutional crisis, thus temporarily eliminating congress while they push through bs
This may be an unpopular opinion but I think Schumer made the right move. He's still a weak leader and he shouldn't have said he said he was going to oppose the CR only to cave the next day. It shows weakness.

This isn't a normal administration and I wouldn't put it past Trump to do some crazy shyt during a shutdown. The fact that both options were terrible either way show how bad our political situation is in this country
 

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This may be an unpopular opinion but I think Schumer made the right move. He's still a weak leader and he shouldn't have said he said he was going to oppose the CR only to cave the next day. It shows weakness.

This isn't a normal administration and I wouldn't put it past Trump to do some crazy shyt during a shutdown. The fact that both options were terrible either way show how bad our political situation is in this country
Thank you this is really where I’m at.

I do get the criticism @Trust Me I do get it.

But I haven’t fully thought whether a government shut Down would truly be the best.

@No1 i know we vented over cuck Schumer folding but was this the right move, given that trumps mission is to consolidate power as soon as possible
 

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Cuts to Housing Nonprofits Will Spur Discrimination, Democrats Say
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“Soon there’ll be no enforcement,” said Representative Maxine Waters of California. “We really are going to go backward.”

March 17, 2025Updated 11:02 a.m. ET
Representative Maxine Waters, Democrat of California (left), and Senator Elizabeth Warren, Democrat of Massachusetts, pose for a portrait.
Representative Maxine Waters, Democrat of California, and Senator Elizabeth Warren, Democrat of Massachusetts, argue that budget cuts at the nation’s fair housing organizations will embolden housing discrimination. Eric Lee/The New York Times
Representative Maxine Waters of California and Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts say they are banding together to fight the Trump administration’s recent cuts that they say will leave Americans unprotected from housing discrimination.

On Monday, the two Democrats delivered a letter to Housing and Urban Development secretary Scott Turner that said cutbacks to fair housing initiatives will “embolden housing discrimination” and put “people’s lives at risk.” The letter has 108 signatures, all from Democrats in Congress.

The action comes on the heels of lawsuits filed last week against HUD and Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency by four local fair housing organizations that are hoping to make their case class action. Under the DOGE cost-cutting plan, at least 66 local fair housing groups — whose purpose is to enforce the landmark Fair Housing Act that prohibits discrimination in real estate — face the sudden rescission of $30 million in grants.

Mr. Turner has also forecast that he will slash staff by 50 percent at the agency and by 77 percent at its Office of Fair Housing and Equal Opportunity, which enforces the Fair Housing Act at the federal level.

“Soon there’ll be no enforcement,” Ms. Waters said in an interview. “We really are going to go backward.”

Ms. Warren said that if housing discrimination is left unchecked, it will freeze more Americans out of a volatile housing market, adding that seniors, people with disabilities, Blacks and Latinos are most at risk of losing their homes in the volatile market.

“We should attack housing discrimination head-on, in all its forms, but we should also attack the underlying cause, which is the severe housing shortage,” she said in an interview.

When people are desperate for affordable housing, she added, they are at greater risk of being discriminated against because housing providers have the upper hand. “The tight supply of housing is part of the reason that landlords have so much power,” she said.

Representative Maxine Waters, Democrat of California, speaks behind a yellow placard that reads “Hands off Housing.’
Representative Waters speaks during a protest outside HUD in early March. Alex Wong/Getty Images
The Fair Housing Act is otherwise supported by several hundred civil servants and nonprofit employees who field phone calls, offer education and coordinate legal guidance for some 33,000 Americans each year who reach out with claims: A landlord removed the ramp for their wheelchair, and now they can’t access their apartment. Or a home appraisal came back low, and the owners worry it’s because they are Black.

In cases like these, fair housing organizations are the frontline defense to ensuring that Americans’ rights are protected. Without grass-roots groups keeping watch on those who seek to discriminate, the law becomes “a toothless tiger,” said Lisa Rice, president of the National Fair Housing Alliance. Referring to the Trump administration, she said, “They don’t want the law enforced.”

Kasey Lovett, a spokeswoman for HUD, described the comments from Rep. Waters and Sen. Warren as “false accusations” and referred to another civil rights law, Title VI of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. That law, she said, “prohibits discrimination in HUD-assisted programs. That is the law on the books, and HUD will enforce it to the highest standard.”

Regarding Ms. Rice’s statement, Ms. Lovett said “it is pretty bold of her to put words in the President’s mouth.”

Last month, DOGE and HUD launched a joint task force that they said would eliminate waste, fraud and abuse in government spending. In a news release announcing the task force on Feb. 13, Mr. Turner said that under his leadership, the department would be “detailed and deliberate about every dollar spent” to “better serve the American people.”

But local fair housing groups say the cuts will make it difficult, if not impossible, to serve anyone. The groups that filed the lawsuit are in Massachusetts, Idaho, Texas and Ohio, but their worries speak to their peers across the country, Ms. Rice said. Many of the nonprofits say they are now frantically searching for private donors to stay afloat.

Amy Nelson, wearing a dark sweater, stands at a window, with a potted plant on the sill.
Amy Nelson, executive director of the Fair Housing Center of Central Indiana. The office is facing both the cutoff of a major grant as well as uncertainty about future grants.Lee Klafczynski for The New York Times
“There aren’t a lot of other funding options for us in Indiana,” said Amy Nelson, executive director of the Fair Housing Center of Central Indiana, the only fair housing organization in the state. “We just don’t have alternatives.”

Ms. Nelson said the canceled grant had funded data-driven investigations and outreach, including data used in a class-action lawsuit against a rental company that showed that Black women were disproportionately having their rental applications rejected at a local housing complex.

Caroline Peattie, the executive director of Fair Housing Advocates of Northern California, said her organization had used the grants to build an expansive fair housing testing operation that allowed the group to pinpoint when landlords might be discriminating against renters.

“I am very concerned about the long-term sustainability of our organization,” she said.

Caroline Peattie, wearing a blue sweater and scarf, stands in a forested area.
Caroline Peattie, the executive director of Fair Housing Advocates of Northern California. “I am very concerned about the long-term sustainability of our organization,” she said.Ian C. Bates for The New York Times
Both Ms. Peattie and Ms. Nelson said that their organizations are currently leaning on cash reserves. But in other places, fair housing work has already been frozen. Declarations filed alongside last week’s lawsuit offer details of the effect of the cuts.

In Idaho, where the Intermountain Fair Housing Council is the only such organization in the state, 10 of the state’s 44 counties will be cut from its service area, leaving some of the most rural and remote residents without any eviction prevention or fair housing services. In South Texas, where many clients of the San Antonio Fair Housing Council suffer from physical and mental disabilities, 85 percent of the organization’s budget has disappeared with the loss of its grant. It has had to abandon several cases, including a female client who reached out to report sexual harassment by a maintenance worker at her apartment.

Ms. Rice, from the National Fair Housing Alliance, said the grant termination is illegal because the grants had been allotted by Congress, and Congress has not authorized DOGE to direct another agency’s operations.

“This is a constitutional crisis,” Ms. Rice said. “They’re thumbing their nose at the law.”

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I understand you may be frustrated but you aren't really being reasoned here. You don't see the massive trap that Biden or Obama would fall into by responding to Trump?

Both of them argued trump was a threat to democracy, went to his inauguration giggling and now they have disappeared. It seems to me now that both are content with the controlled opposition party and don't actually see trump is a threat.
You don't see it at all? Is your statement borne out of frustration or do you really think them responding would do anything but create more chaos at this stage?

It's born out of reality, we have a legit fascist defying courts, arresting civilians, threating journalism and both have disappeared into their comfy bunkers until 2028 :smile:. Id like both of them to continue to be hidden in the background, they're complicit with trumps actions
 

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This may be an unpopular opinion but I think Schumer made the right move. He's still a weak leader and he shouldn't have said he said he was going to oppose the CR only to cave the next day. It shows weakness.

This isn't a normal administration and I wouldn't put it past Trump to do some crazy shyt during a shutdown. The fact that both options were terrible either way show how bad our political situation is in this country
Dr. Greg Carr said the same thing ironically. In a recess, they’d only fund CRAZY shyt.
 
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