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dead wrong, and this bullshyt ass post is an excellent demonstration of how out of touch progressives are

plenty of voters in this country think trump is a piece of shyt, but that the economy in 2019 was better than 2024, and that gambling on him fixing things/cutting taxes was worth the vote. they had no confidence in kamala, and they can ignore trump's behavior by turning the news off

swing voters have a "lesser of two evils" calculation that they make, too. they looked at the economy, the awful culture shyt coming from the far left, and made it with trump
We got $30 eggs, collapsing retirement accounts, chicken coup directives and $20k increases on car prices. All things that are not a surprise as trump said he would do what he’s doing now.

Nobody who was actually serious about the economy (and not already rich) voted for trump because they REALLY thought the economy would get better for them.

Thats just what they say, cause they done wanna say “i hate mexicans/gays/blacks/etc out loud.
 

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If trans voters and trans rights people are such a small subset, Democrats could have done a much better job mitigating that threat from the right. Somewhere like San Diego, trans people, or the idea of it, are not broadly accepted at all. You go to places like AZ, and Michigan, it's even smaller.
the problem is that democrats are being bullied into this "all or nothing" demand from the far left; and they have no right to demand it

no one is saying that trehs "can't exist" :mjlol: but their mental illness is not a license to override biology, over the objections of actual women. and yeah, people are gonna fukking push back when it comes to pushing this nonsense on underaged children

the far left has lost their minds
 

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We got $30 eggs, chicken coup directives and $20k increases on car prices. All things

Nobody who was actually serious about the economy (and not already rich) voted for trump because they REALLY thought the economy would get better for them.
this elitist, out of touch approach is trash :yeshrug: plain and simple. tons of people thought that trump would improve the economy. normal people who go to work every day

trump won hispanic men outright, and you're gonna throw a klan hood on all of them? see how that works out going forward
 

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Do that and watch these folks show up to their houses and protest

:mjgrin: Yes, EVERYBODY show up.

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OK. If it didn’t hurt us, as even Pelosi said it did (Nancy Pelosi Insists the Election Was Not a Rebuke of the Democrats) , did it help us?
Probably not but it's a lot more complex than that. The right has a monopoly on the media ecosystem and they can catastrophize any complex social issue (whether its immigration,abortion or LGBTQ rights). Because of this imbalance Dems are at a tremendous disadvantage when it comes to defining what they stand for and setting their own narrative.

Kamala spoke very little about trans issues during her campaign. Nonetheless, the right was able to take a 10 second clip of an old interview of hers and blow it out of proportion. At that point there was no going back. The narrative was set regardless of anything the Dems or Kamala could have done to distance themselves from trans issues. The real question is - what is the solution for that? Reflexively running to the center for every moral dilemma the right sensationalizes is a fools errand. If the new position the right takes on trans people is that they should be criminalized and tracked in a national database, how then should the Democrats respond? Should they reflexively take a position a little less extreme.
You see how this can turn into a never ending cycle and cat and mouse game.

With all that said the voters who're naive enough to fall for every sensationalized right wing talking point are bound to vote Republican anyway. Why should Dems diminish their values to appease this cadre of voters in the first place?

Its much more adventageous for Dems to put together a compelling vision and bold platform that will inspire a slice of of those 90 million non-voters to vote. And in order to do this they'll have to really be a party of working and middle classes and abandon their wealthy donors.
 

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With all that said the voters who're naive enough to fall for every sensationalized right wing talking point are bound to vote Republican anyway. Why should Dems diminish their values to appease this cadre of voters in the first place?
when was it decided that these are our fukkin values? :laff: what poll are you pointing to, what data, that shows the majority of democrats asked for this? that would remotely justify EVERY SINGLE democrat senator voting against it?

do you know a single democrat in real life who thinks boys should be allowed to play sports with their daughters? when the fukk did it happen, that a small, lunatic fringe on the far left gets to decide what this party's values are?

are you suggesting that the worst 25% of the party, that only wins in dark blue areas, gets to set the official narrative and agenda going forward? i sure as hell won't be a part of that :camby:
 
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High school is a mixed bag.

There’s still lots of co-ed highschool sports right now.

So obviously we are ok with boys competing with girls on some level.

In some places around the world High School sports can get REALLY competitive and under those circumstances i can understand a parent or league fighting to keep things separate and fair.

For the majority of parents and student athletes they are just happy to have a spot on any team in any league so it’s a non-issue.
We had a girl on the wrestling team and the football team back in my High School back in 97-00, was never an issue :manny:
 

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when was it decided that these are our fukkin values? :laff: what poll are you pointing to, what data, that shows the majority of democrats asked for this? that would remotely justify EVERY SINGLE democrat senator voting against it?

do you know a single democrat in real life who thinks boys should be allowed to play sports with their daughters? when the fukk did it happen, that a small, lunatic fringe on the far left gets to decide what this party's values are?

are you suggesting that the worst 25% of the party, that only wins in dark blue areas, gets to set the official narrative and agenda going forward? i sure as hell won't be a part of that :camby:

By values I mean acknowledging that every community should have dignity and not have their rights infringed upon.
I don't think men should be playing in womens sports but its not an issue that effects me or most people I know. Again this is another issue the right has sensationalized. I'm fine with Democrats uniformally saying they are against men playing in women sports. But that should then lead to denying trans people's right to exist and their freedom to be treated fairly in society. And that's where all of the Republican's rhetoric will inevitably lead to.
Again, these are complex social issues that deserve far more nuance than brain rotted right wing takes on social media.
 

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That's the reason why posters in the locker room can't stand his ass, n-gga stays beating a fccking dead horse.
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