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Put a bullet in his head and let’s move on with our lives
Nah, then our favorite irresponsible media sources would spend wall to wall coverage trying to drill into the same people who got us into this mess two different outlooks and how it was a miscarriage of American Ideals.
 

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Can we ban these #bothsides idiots from the thread.

@FAH1223 it’s really just a distraction at this point.

Everyone else understood what the mission was and what was at stake. I just don’t have the capacity to explain that a lot of vile and fukked up ish we see wouldn’t be happening.
:what: I supported Kamala Harris because even though she was fukking far from perfect she was a better choice than Trump. She fukked up very badly on the Palestine issue, as we were trying to tell people during the election, but just like now y'all didn't want to listen.

You're basically advocating for not watching the game tape of a loss because you're too upset or embarrassed. If you can't handle critical self-assessment to understand why we lost then we're going to keep losing over and over again. This "We made no mistakes, it was actually the voters' fault!" attitude is what's an actual distraction at this point, because it stops us from figuring out how to effectively counter the right-wing onslaught, and how we get this Hakeem Jeffries crying in church shyt. For better or worse, the Democrats (God help us) are the best vehicle to stop Trump right now. And they're fukking blowing it because of the attitude you're displaying here. Too many people here would prefer to just put their fingers in their ears instead of doing the work of growth. The Democrats work for the people, not the other way around. We should be beating them into shape like a rented mule.
 

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The thing is, we probably won’t even fully know what they’re doing until the end of this dude’s term. It’s the shyt we don’t know about that concerns me the most.
That’s why I look at USAID as a distraction.

I guess a lot of Americans didn’t realize until a couple weeks ago that we send out foreign aid.

And they’re seemingly pissed, utterly displaying their lack of understanding regarding how systems work.

I really don’t have the capacity to breakdown why it’s important/ not a big deal.

Getting people to see it as a distraction is like pulling teeth.
 

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Arab States Wake Up to Fact That Trump Means What He Says on Gaza
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Egypt leads race for alternative to Trump plan it fears could destabilize the Middle East

Feb. 13, 2025 at 12:52 am
Palestinians wait to cross through a checkpoint in Gaza.
Egypt has launched a diplomatic blitz to corral support for an Arab-led and funded initiative to rebuild the Gaza Strip, setting aside old political concerns in hopes of boxing out a Trump plan that is wildly unpopular across the Arab world.

Arab states that had once hoped to use their funding capacity to push for a Palestinian state are now under pressure to prevent a mass displacement of Gazans that could destabilize any countries pressed to take them in.

The risks are high for Egypt if it can’t craft an alternative. Trump has repeatedly suggested sending Gazans there, despite Cairo’s rejection of the idea. Asked Tuesday where the Palestinians would go, Trump answered in part, “I believe we’ll have a parcel of land in Egypt.”

Egypt’s broad idea, people familiar with the matter said, is to keep Palestinians in place and form a committee of technocrats drawn from across Gaza to administer the enclave. Palestinians trained by Arab forces would provide security. Egyptian officials are now seeking public and private funding sources across the region and hope to hold a donor conference to secure commitments.

The reconstruction plan is expected to take up to five years and would be carried out in stages, with the first focused on restoring essential services and providing shelter.

The Rafah crossing at Egypt’s border with the Gaza Strip.
The Rafah crossing at Egypt’s border with the Gaza Strip. Photo: amr abdallah dalsh/Reuters
It echoes other ideas that have floated around during the war, but still leaves unanswered questions: How to remove Hamas from authority or keep it from becoming a spoiler? Who exactly will join the security forces, and will they be capable enough to deal with any remaining militants? Will there be enough money for a reconstruction project that will take years, and who will provide it? Will the pause in fighting hold?

The last is crucial for securing funds from Gulf countries that don’t want to see them wasted by further fighting. They also want assurances that neither Hamas nor the Palestinian Authority would have the ability to abuse reconstruction money, people familiar with the matter said.

Egypt is also seeking to separate out the question of Palestinian statehood and put it on a different track from the effort to rebuild Gaza, the people said.

Though Egypt continues to say a road map should be developed for an eventual Palestinian state, its desire to move ahead with arrangements to administer and rebuild Gaza would mark a significant change for Arab states that said repeatedly last year they wouldn’t fund reconstruction in the enclave without a commitment to a Palestinian homeland. Without that, the conflict would remain unresolved, and the destruction would be repeated, they argued.

“For the Arab world, recognizing that Trump actually means what he says in terms of Gaza means the necessity of coming up with an alternative to push forward,” said H.A. Hellyer, a Middle East security expert at the Royal United Services Institute. The question of a Palestinian state won’t be dropped, “but it won’t be a precondition for beginning reconstruction,” he said.

President Trump has repeatedly suggested sending Gazans to Egypt.
President Trump has repeatedly suggested sending Gazans to Egypt. Photo: Stefani Reynolds/Bloomberg News
Arab countries are also trying to reduce the pressure on them to take in displaced Palestinians by stepping up their acceptance of people leaving for humanitarian reasons. Jordan’s King Abdullah II, who met with Trump on Tuesday, said his country would take in 2,000 sick children from Gaza. Egypt has taken in sick and wounded, and there are broader discussions in the region of expanding the intake to include Gazans looking to resume their studies.

Trump has invited Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi to meet at the White House. But Sisi is concerned about the optics of a meeting with Trump, and no trip has been set, Egyptian officials said. Egypt didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.

Egypt said Sunday that it would host a summit of Arab leaders on Feb. 27 to discuss “the new and dangerous developments in the Palestinian issue.”

“There’s a good opportunity for Arab states to come in with their own proposals,” said David Schenker, who served as the top State Department official on the Middle East during Trump’s first term in office. “The question for Abdullah, for Sisi, for the U.A.E., for Saudi Arabia, for all interested states, is to come up with a coordinated position about what they will do in Gaza.”

Few Middle East experts think Trump’s plan is practical due in large part to the Palestinians’ fear of being forced into a permanent exile. Some have raised concerns about international law and whether it constitutes ethnic cleansing.

Egypt’s President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi
Egypt’s President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi Photo: Kristian Tuxen Ladegaard Berg/Zuma Press
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has welcomed Trump’s plan as fresh thinking, and the country’s defense minister has instructed the military to make contingency plans for relocating Palestinians. But many families of hostages held in Gaza worry it is complicating efforts to free their loved ones in ongoing cease-fire talks.

From Trump’s perspective, his plan has the virtue of simplicity, some of its proponents say. Not only might it make it easier to rebuild Gaza, but it hints at a solution for the unsolved question of how to remove Hamas from the territory, since everybody would be called on to leave.

One indirect benefit of the plan, some of its advocates within the Trump administration say, is if it spurs Arab nations to help solve the security and financial challenges of rebuilding Gaza.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio said in a radio interview Monday that Trump’s plan was an example of his “outside the box” thinking and that Arab critics who couldn’t accept the idea should offer their own solution.

“The blunt truth is that the Middle East has for too long been a region of places all of whom love to talk but don’t want to do,” Rubio told SiriusXM Patriot. “If they don’t like Donald Trump’s plan, then it’s time for these countries in the region to step forward and offer their solution.”

Trump, meanwhile, is sticking with his plan.

“We’re going to take it, we’re going to hold it, we’re going to cherish it,” Trump said during Tuesday’s meeting with Abdullah.

The president went on to reiterate his idea that Gaza would be turned into an oceanfront vacation destination, with hotels and housing for people from across the Middle East.

Abdullah, stuck in an awkward position, said Jordan, Egypt and other Arab governments would counter with their own plan for postwar Gaza later this month.

“Let’s wait until the Egyptians” present their ideas, he said.

Write to Summer Said at summer.said@wsj.com and Michael R. Gordon at michael.gordon@wsj.com

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That’s why I look at USAID as a distraction.

I guess a lot of Americans didn’t realize until a couple weeks ago that we send out foreign aid.

And they’re seemingly pissed, utterly displaying their lack of understanding regarding how systems work.

I really don’t have the capacity to breakdown why it’s important/ not a big deal.

Getting people to see it as a distraction is like pulling teeth.
People generally don’t care to follow politics.
 

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It's just time for people who are trying to understand anything different than a large part of our population sincerely, absolutely, needs to see for their own pleasure, people harmed and put down and abused. It's pure entertainment for these folks

And anyone who knows this nation's history should not be surprised because that's how we've always been.

We're not too far removed from "Lynching nights" being a family event
 
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:what: I supported Kamala Harris because even though she was fukking far from perfect she was a better choice than Trump. She fukked up very badly on the Palestine issue, as we were trying to tell people during the election, but just like now y'all didn't want to listen.

You're basically advocating for not watching the game tape of a loss because you're too upset or embarrassed. If you can't handle critical self-assessment to understand why we lost then we're going to keep losing over and over again. This "We made no mistakes, it was actually the voters' fault!" attitude is what's an actual distraction at this point, because it stops us from figuring out how to effectively counter the right-wing onslaught, and how we get this Hakeem Jeffries crying in church shyt. For better or worse, the Democrats (God help us) are the best vehicle to stop Trump right now. And they're fukking blowing it because of the attitude you're displaying here. Too many people here would prefer to just put their fingers in their ears instead of doing the work of growth. The Democrats work for the people, not the other way around. We should be beating them into shape like a rented mule.
This account is full of BS. Please stop engaging it, all it will do is continue to shyt post.
 

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This account is full of BS. Please stop engaging it, all it will do is continue to shyt post.
I can see the allure being that he’s an easy, hypocritical, non eligible to vote target who has an extensive history of making intellectual arguments as to why Trump would be a net positive for black people domestically and across the globe.

But at the end of the day you’re correct and unless you killing time at the airport or something, it’s not worth the time and battery on your device.
 

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By the way, I understand the logic of allowing the tech sector to control our destiny.

American leadership effectively feels we're behind China (we are) and that we need to be competitive
on the world stage (we do).

Andreesen Horrowitz
Elon Musk
Peter Thiel
Sundar Pichai
Satya Nadella
Sam Altman
and several others aren't just there for show, they're literally advising Washington and
helping to guide domestic and international policy.

The moves being made, make sense when you understand it's a direct reaction to China's aggressive growth
and what's going on with BRICs. G7 countries have failing/weakening economies, several countries are moving away
from the petrodollar and we're (America is) not the most technically advanced country on the planet anymore.





We're in the middle of a moderrn cold war and Elon musk is someone put in charge of "steering the ship" to so speak.
Tariffs.
Restricting Chips.
The push for Stargate, the military funding, the social pivot to the right all make sense as the general public has to brace for measures of
austerity.


:dead: He typed this with a straight face. You should be on SNL.
 

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This account is full of BS. Please stop engaging it, all it will do is continue to shyt post.
Over 75% of your posts in this thread are constant bytching and moaning about how other posters are burner trolls because it gives your peabrain a migraine to read opinions that differ from your own.

If you're not going to constructively contribute to the discourse in here then at least stop whining and take your own advice. Shut the fukk up and log off.
 

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I can see the allure being that he’s an easy, hypocritical, non eligible to vote target who has an extensive history of making intellectual arguments as to why Trump would be a net positive for black people domestically and across the globe.

But at the end of the day you’re correct and unless you killing time at the airport or something, it’s not worth the time and battery on your device.
Can a moderator tell me why this pustule is still allowed to post this drivel in here? It's obvious he has a humiliation kink and is desperate for attention, I'm just not sure why the rest of us have to continuously be subjected to it.
 

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:dead: He typed this with a straight face. You should be on SNL.


Hey let’s take it easy on @Insensitive I don’t agree with what he mentioned above, but it’s important to understand where this misconception comes from.I know breh is coming from a good place but the messaging relayed to the general public isn’t as transparent.

Big tech has sold the public the false idea that everything they do is for the betterment and empowerment of America.

Elon Musk is obsessed with getting to Mars, framing it as a race against China, while also pushing the narrative that Americans don’t work hard enough. Is he actually trying to get to Mars? Sure. But the way he goes about it,undercutting others in the process this raises serious ethical concerns. There’s no real morality behind this new-age space race.

I used to hate this comparison, but let’s be real: we’re watching billionaires race to space while people starve. Countries are being exploited for their natural resources, leading to regional instability. We have the means to end poverty it’s just a lack of willpower.

Even within tech, AI is often just a cover for offshoring to save a buck. Why is Meta laying off 3,600 people and threatening more, as if labor costs are an issue, when they just reported record profits?

One thing is clear: AI isn’t anywhere close to what’s being sold to the general public.

Most people don’t fully understand how big tech actually functions. Silicon Valley is notorious for selling overhyped products. The business strategy is to move fast, break things, and pivot to the next big idea before investors realize a product or service is a dud.
 

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Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the president’s controversial choice to lead the Department of Health and Human Services, was confirmed Thursday by a 52-48 vote.

Mitch McConnell, the former Republican leader, was the sole senator to cross party lines, voting no.

 
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