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Elon Musk Fires Back After YouTuber Exposes Tesla’s Flaws


Elon Musk Fires Back After YouTuber Exposes Tesla’s Flaws

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Elon Musk Fires Back After YouTuber Exposes Tesla’s Flaws. His Defense? ‘People Don’t Shoot Lasers Out Of Their Eyes To Drive’​


Posted by Adrian Volenik

March 29, 2025

Elon Musk is doubling down on his long-held belief that Tesla doesn’t need LiDAR (Light Detection and Ranging) sensors for its self-driving cars, even after a viral YouTube video showed the technology struggling in a basic obstacle test.

“People don’t shoot lasers out of their eyes to drive,” Musk posted on X, sharing a clip from Tesla’s 2019 Autonomy Day. “Just try Tesla self-driving today, which just uses cameras and AI, and you will understand.”

People don’t shoot lasers out of their eyes to drive.

Just try Tesla self-driving today, which just uses cameras and AI, and you will understand. https://t.co/uArUTLAhlF

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 27, 2025

His comment probably came in response to a video from popular YouTuber and former NASA engineer Mark Rober. In the video, Rober tested Tesla’s Autopilot system against a LiDAR-equipped setup by setting up a fake wall that looked like a continuation of the road — a classic “Wile E. Coyote” trap. The Tesla, relying only on cameras, plowed straight into it.

The internet went wild.

While Musk criticized LiDAR as an expensive and unnecessary tool, calling it a “fool’s errand” back in 2019, the real story is more complicated. According to a 2024 earnings report, Tesla quietly became LiDAR manufacturer Luminar’s biggest customer, accounting for more than $2 million in revenue in the first quarter alone. That’s 10% of Luminar’s revenue.



A Tale of Two Teslas​


YouTuber Kyle Paul decided to run the same test, but this time using Tesla’s Full Self-Driving (FSD) system instead of Autopilot. His 2022 Model Y, which runs on Tesla’s older Hardware 3 (HW3), failed every time. The car only noticed the wall when it was inches away — and likely only because of its parking sensors.



Then came the twist: Paul tried the same test with a Cybertruck running Tesla’s latest FSD version and newer Hardware 4 (HW4). This time, the vehicle passed with flying colors, slowing down and stopping on its own before hitting the fake wall.

The results suggest that not all FSD systems are equal, and newer hardware makes a real difference.

Still, some commenters pointed out that neither Paul nor Rober tested the system in tougher conditions.



Ten Years of Promises​


Musk has long painted a rosy picture of autonomous driving. Speaking at an Nvidia conference in 2015, he said, “I view it as a solved problem. We know exactly what to do and we will be there in a few years.”

By 2019, he even claimed that buying a Tesla was like investing: “If you buy a Tesla today, I believe you are buying an appreciating asset, not a depreciating asset.”

Fast forward to today, and that hasn’t panned out. Used Teslas are depreciating faster than average, and the FSD software has seen multiple price cuts.

Musk recently admitted Tesla’s Hardware 3 isn’t capable of full autonomy, calling the realization “absolutely painful and difficult.” He added that some drivers even turn off self-driving to check their phones without being nagged by alerts.

“Right now, there is this perverse situation where people actually go to manual driving to check their text messages so the computer doesn’t yell at them,” Musk said.

Despite all the delays and criticism, Musk now says Tesla is rolling out a supervised robotaxi fleet in Austin, Texas later this year.



Competitors Gaining Ground​


While Tesla sticks to its camera-only approach, others are racing ahead with LiDAR. Companies like Waymo and GM Cruise rely on the technology, and it shows in performance. One longtime Tesla investor, Ross Gerber, was very direct, saying, “My Tesla FSD is like a 12-year-old driving next to a Waymo,” he said.

Waymos working Santa Monica in scale now. Uber has got to be hurting from this. Everyone we talk to loves the Waymo experience. The cars drive with confidence in very difficult conditions. My tesla FSD is like a 12 year old driving next to a Waymo. $goog $tsla $uber

— Ross Gerber (@GerberKawasaki) March 2, 2025

Chinese companies are also dominating the LiDAR space. Hesai Technology, for example, now holds 47% of the global LiDAR market and is partnering with BYD to add sensors to over 10 new EV models launching in 2025.

Back in February, Tesla’s sales in China dropped to their lowest level since July 2022, with just 30,688 units sold.

As the debate over self-driving tech rages on, one thing is obvious: Tesla’s road to autonomy is still filled with speed bumps—and maybe a few fake walls.
 
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He has a point. Who could derive joy from a billionaire being slightly less rich. Derive joy from more regular things like firing people en mass, making social security impossible to get for the elderly, capturing people in the dead of night and sending them to a random country never to be heard from again, etc.
 

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He has a point. Who could derive joy from a billionaire being slightly less rich. Derive joy from more regular things like firing people en mass, making social security impossible to get for the elderly, capturing people in the dead of night and sending them to a random country never to be heard from again, etc.

:mjlol: Elon was on the verge of crying, but his programming doesn't allow him to know how.
 

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🇺 karaswisher.bsky.social
Hello he lied
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On a 2023 earnings call, Elon Musk boasted that Tesla had bagged “over 1 million” Cybertruck reservations and that “demand is off the charts.”

So why has the company still sold less than 50,000 trucks since customer deliveries began 14 months ago?
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🇺 alexgbauer.bsky.social
It appears that people who previously reserved the cybertruck now have *reservations* about it. Ehhhhh?

I'll see myself out

3/35
🇺 bigpatcox.bsky.social
I wanted a cyber truck when I was 8 and played with transformers

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🇺 joel-lee.bsky.social
Unfortunately, his brand is all about inflating his value.

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🇺 iveseenenough.bsky.social
This is Elizabeth Holmes level lying, and it’s pretty standard Elon. Funny how the woman ends up in prison and this psychopath is the richest person in the world.

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🇺 scottmccaskill.bsky.social
She got busted bc she fleeced rich people. Musk is fleecing Saudi princes now. They don’t just put people in jail though

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🇺 iveseenenough.bsky.social
They … put them in meat grinders?

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🇺 scottmccaskill.bsky.social
Something like that

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🇺 reneestephen.bsky.social
As long as he avoids embassies he should be fine 👀

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🇺 alladonis.bsky.social
Elon: "I swear baby, of course I'll pay child support. And also, my Cybertrucks fly."

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🇺 muddles1968.bsky.social
But we are supposed to trust all the supposed fraud, waste and abuse he and DOGE have identified. He is a conman. Pure and simple.

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🇺 nixbora.bsky.social
His lies made him the wealthiest person in the world. He’s living proof that the stock market is a Ponzi scheme.

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🇺 magnusxander.bsky.social
The stock market turned into a Ponzi scheme. It wasn’t initially meant for what it became.

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🇺 paulaaa.bsky.social
The stock market was always intended to be a ponzi scheme from the very begining

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🇺 reneestephen.bsky.social
It used to be very hard to get a charter of incorporation, because it was considered a public trust to allow the power of such amalgamation of capital. We need to return to the days when the public good weighed heavily on commerce.

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🇺 not-so-fluffy.bsky.social
Fox News and big oil spent decades telling us electric vehicles and green technology were a liberal conspiracy. Good luck rebranding them to appeal to F350 big wheel drivers with inadequacy issues after pissing off their original market

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🇺 libraryyarngirl.bsky.social
Sadly, I still see more than I would expect in my corner of Maryland.

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🇺 ap366.bsky.social
Musk sucks Vote!

Focus!!
Special elections!!

Wisconsin vote for
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Florida 1st Vote for
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Florida 6th vote for
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We knew there would be horrific actions taken by Trump right before the April 1st Special Elections!

“Don’t boo, VOTE!”

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🇺 princessbabs3.bsky.social
He’s a con man.

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🇺 sashadoggie.bsky.social
The panels fell off the Cybertrucks during transportation because the piss poor glue they used to put them together and they are still looking for them.

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🇺 thebabysitter.bsky.social
Why did trump buy the presidency? To avoid jail.

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🇺 chrisbioworld.bsky.social
People like me, who put a deposit down.

Pulled my reservation for a couple reasons.
1.) promised 40k truck, 90k
2.) good quality, it isn’t
3.) customer for a better future, not a Nazi oligarch.

… that’s how you loose 950,000 reservations 🤷‍♂️

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🇺 exxekhan.bsky.social
He lied. It's not bulletproof. The glue is falling off. He doubled the price. They still haven't delivered FSD. CyberCab will be delayed. His sex robots are fake. It's almost like his word is NOT his bond. Weird.

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🇺 joelitics.bsky.social
And I woulda sold them too if hadn’t been for you meddling wokists

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🇺 nickgn71.bsky.social
Great Scooby reference.

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🇺 oohnooo.bsky.social
That was to get a boost in Tesla stocks.
Just a criminal in so many ways. He can serve a long time. He is not almost 80!

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🇺 torov.bsky.social
Elon’s business strategy has been like Elizabeth Holmes’ Theranos.

Fake it until you make it.

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🇺 latticemindset.bsky.social
Maybe most of them were from all the bots are X. 😂

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🇺 natemikal.bsky.social
U cappin

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🇺 billinpuyallup.bsky.social
Shocking!!!!!

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🇺 arieslife78.bsky.social
That dude is a real piece of work. The conclusion when it comes to Apartheid Musk, he's very manipulative with his way of words. He enjoys hyping his base supporters up for the next big event. 1 million turned into 50,000 sounds like he came up way short on his projected sales target.

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🇺 carlatrips.bsky.social
As a Texan, it looks like they’re all in Texas

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🇺 aaronw.dev
Oy, I would be so annoyed if I were an investor. Imagine if said CEO had a way to gut the SEC. That seems like it would be bad.

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I mean I'm no billionaire but even I know Tesla was in with liberals who thought driving those electric cars was helping save the planet. Why the hell would you do things to ostracize those customers? Why would you pander to republicans who don't even like EVs?

What the hell was Elon thinking?
 

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I mean I'm no billionaire but even I know Tesla was in with liberals who thought driving those electric cars was helping save the planet. Why the hell would you do things to ostracize those customers? Why would you pander to republicans who don't even like EVs?

What the hell was Elon thinking?
He’s a fraud
 

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I mean I'm no billionaire but even I know Tesla was in with liberals who thought driving those electric cars was helping save the planet. Why the hell would you do things to ostracize those customers? Why would you pander to republicans who don't even like EVs?

What the hell was Elon thinking?
He bought the federal gov for $250 M. tsla doesn’t matter when he can enrich himself through taxpayer money
 

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I mean I'm no billionaire but even I know Tesla was in with liberals who thought driving those electric cars was helping save the planet. Why the hell would you do things to ostracize those customers? Why would you pander to republicans who don't even like EVs?

What the hell was Elon thinking?
He dossnt care that's why he's all in on a.i. he gives two fukks about tesla or it's shareholder
 
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