General Elon Musk Fukkery Thread

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Are you familiar with the concept of supply and demand? :patrice:

in a perfect bull market scenario, once people realize they can make significant money by making their cars available for the robotaxi market, the demand will skyrocket. Everyone will want to own one. I'm willing to bet you'll want to own one too. Tesla won't be able to produce them fast enough. I'm sure they will also operate a fleet of their own.

I asked you a very simple question, why is Tesla planning to sell these money printing machines instead of keeping it for themselves?

And yeah, I agree with you, everyone would buy a 30K asset that generates 30K in returns every year, but what happens when everyone buys a robotaxi? Who’s going to be pay for rides?
 

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I asked you a very simple question, why is Tesla planning to sell these money printing machines instead of keeping it for themselves?

And yeah, I agree with you, everyone would buy a 30K asset that generates 30K in returns every year, but what happens when everyone buys a robotaxi? Who’s going to be pay for rides?
he’s a cult member, they’re not using logic :heh:
 

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I asked you a very simple question, why is Tesla planning to sell these money printing machines instead of keeping it for themselves?

And yeah, I agree with you, everyone would buy a 30K asset that generates 30K in returns every year, but what happens when everyone buys a robotaxi? Who’s going to be pay for rides?
Even that doesn’t make sense. A car that can generate $30k/year wouldn’t sell for $30k :heh:
 

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Google scaling Waymo? How? they got 6 gigafactories too? And I don't know why you're surprised. Like your beloved Waymo, which is level 4, Baidu's been in the robotaxi game for a while now. It's already happening in China.

Baidu's cars are geofenced in a high-speed, low-latency connectivity area. As such, they are supremely confident in the routes, capable of handling any situation, or in the worst case, having someone take remote control. That's why no steering wheel is needed. Because of the geofencing, Baidu's vehicles can only function as taxis.

There are millions of Model 3s and Ys out there ready to be robotaxis. They're in high demand, whether you admit it or not. There's a reason why you're seeing Model Ys everywhere. Why wouldn't you sell these cars to people? Don't you want to make money? In the future, Tesla will sell 10-15 million Teslas per year. some predict 20mil per year by 2035. There will be more gigafactories, and they will be even more efficient in manufacturing. While Google is happy with a few thousand Waymos, Tesla will be busy making millions of Teslas capable of robotaxis. Google has a bigger fish to fry anyway. The beauty of tesla's model is that it's your car that is hustlin on the road making money for you. that's the beauty of FSD.

You are basically comparing Wemby, who's got all the moves and is ready to take over the world, vs. Edey, who is nice now but won't be relevant because he won't get much better. nice try tho.
Congrats to you, you got it all figured out.
 

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I asked you a very simple question, why is Tesla planning to sell these money printing machines instead of keeping it for themselves?

And yeah, I agree with you, everyone would buy a 30K asset that generates 30K in returns every year, but what happens when everyone buys a robotaxi? Who’s going to be pay for rides?


So you're saying Tesla should stop selling cars even if people want them? :patrice:



In 10 years, Tesla is projected to sell 10-20 million cars a year. Even if they only make $5,000 profit per car, that’s still $50-100 billion a year. Why would they pass on that kind of money?

And about everyone buying a robotaxi—think about it. Even if millions of people buy robotaxis, there will still be tons of people who need rides but don’t want to own a car. there's gonna be 10billion people in the world breh. Not everyone will buy a robotaxi; many will just use them when they need a ride. imagine countries like india finally wake da hell up and have some sort of infrastructure. that's 2 billion people 10 years later.

The market for ride-sharing and autonomous services will be ginormous. Tesla’s plan is to sell cars and offer ride services, making money from both. The idea that the demand for rides will disappear if everyone buys a robotaxi just doesn’t hold up. People will always need convenient and affordable transportation. like you nikkas said tesla is a car company. tesla will always sell cars because it's their core business. they just happened to be also an AI company. it's laughable when yall nikkas say Google won't have problem. i'll be like yall out of touch. Tesla's been a leader in making EVs for over a decade until BYD came to a scene. yall don't know how hard it is to scale a car company.

In the end, they can do so many things when they figure out autotomy. no it ain't gonna be like baidu or waymo. solving autonomy only means 1 thing. AI has taken over and became a better driver than human.

It lets them tap into multiple revenue streams and maximize profits in a changing market. Future will be different. Tesla will lead the charge.
 

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Congrats to you, you got it all figured out.


while yall hatin, i thought this through and actually do my own research. Worst case scenario, tesla is still a very good car company with a clear advantage in manufacturing. still worth investing.


good input on Baidu
 

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while yall hatin, i thought this through and actually do my own research. Worst case scenario, tesla is still a very good car company with a clear advantage in manufacturing. still worth investing.


good input on Baidu


You are finally getting it. At the end of the day, Tesla is an EV company that sold 1.8 million vehicles in 2023 and sales/net profits/profit margins are on a downward trend in the near future. Nothing more, nothing less.

But you are wrong about one thing. It’s not a good stock to invest in at current price. It’s at best worth half of Toyota’s market cap and the stock price will fall to reflect that fact.

Thats why the cult leader is trying to cash out before the house of cards come tumbling down.
 

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You are finally getting it. At the end of the day, Tesla is an EV company that sold 1.8 million vehicles in 2023 and sales/net profits/profit margins are on a downward trend in the near future. Nothing more, nothing less.

But you are wrong about one thing. It’s not a good stock to invest in at current price. It’s at best worth half of Toyota’s market cap and the stock price will fall to reflect that fact.

Thats why the cult leader is trying to cash out before the house of cards come tumbling down.


Cult or no cult, Tesla is worth investing in. I support American companies that dream big and innovate. It's hard to understand why anyone would hate on a company that has revived American engineering. One thing that is true about Elon is that he cares about engineering. again, you would know this if you ever listened to him. While GM and Ford fumbled and focused on political lobbying to satisfy their greed, Tesla has genuinely impacted our lives. EVs are the future, and Tesla paved the way. hope you aren't serious talking about toyota. toyota's EV is horrible, pretty much the worst EVs out there. their saving grace is hybrids which is an obsolete technology. they will continue sell cars well because they offer reliable cars, but unless they spend all their $ on EVs they will be another legacy auto who failed to adapt.


and hey look. the great waymo level 4 vs. lowly level 2 FSD



look at how so called level 4 couldn't even figure out a roundabout.

12.4 is coming out soon and it will have another exponential improvement. by the time version 13 comes out, it's a wrap.
 
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Cult or no cult, Tesla is worth investing in. I support American companies that dream big and innovate. It's hard to understand why anyone would hate on a company that has revived American engineering. One thing that is true about Elon is that he cares about engineering. again, you would know this if you ever listened to him. While GM and Ford fumbled and focused on political lobbying to satisfy their greed, Tesla has genuinely impacted our lives. EVs are the future, and Tesla paved the way. hope you aren't serious talking about toyota. toyota's EV is horrible, pretty much the worst EVs out there. their saving grace is hybrids which is an obsolete technology. they will continue sell cars well because they offer reliable cars, but unless they spend all their $ on EVs they will be another legacy auto who failed to adapt.


and hey look. the great waymo level 4 vs. lowly level 2 FSD



look at how so called level 4 couldn't even figure out a roundabout.

12.4 is coming out soon and it will have another exponential improvement. by the time version 13 comes out, it's a wrap.


you need to step outside the Tesla bubble to get your information. EV demand is waning. That’s why Toyota’s hybrid strategy was so brilliant. While EV sales are falling and other companies are reducing investments in their EV programs, Toyota sales and profit margins went up in 2024.

And I don’t hate Tesla as a company. I detest Must. He is a conman and a racist who built a mythology around him by lying and conning people. I don’t wish for Tesla to fail, I just want all the fake hype around it to die.
 

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So you're saying Tesla should stop selling cars even if people want them? :patrice:



In 10 years, Tesla is projected to sell 10-20 million cars a year. Even if they only make $5,000 profit per car, that’s still $50-100 billion a year. Why would they pass on that kind of money?

And about everyone buying a robotaxi—think about it. Even if millions of people buy robotaxis, there will still be tons of people who need rides but don’t want to own a car. there's gonna be 10billion people in the world breh. Not everyone will buy a robotaxi; many will just use them when they need a ride. imagine countries like india finally wake da hell up and have some sort of infrastructure. that's 2 billion people 10 years later.

The market for ride-sharing and autonomous services will be ginormous. Tesla’s plan is to sell cars and offer ride services, making money from both. The idea that the demand for rides will disappear if everyone buys a robotaxi just doesn’t hold up. People will always need convenient and affordable transportation. like you nikkas said tesla is a car company. tesla will always sell cars because it's their core business. they just happened to be also an AI company. it's laughable when yall nikkas say Google won't have problem. i'll be like yall out of touch. Tesla's been a leader in making EVs for over a decade until BYD came to a scene. yall don't know how hard it is to scale a car company.

In the end, they can do so many things when they figure out autotomy. no it ain't gonna be like baidu or waymo. solving autonomy only means 1 thing. AI has taken over and became a better driver than human.

It lets them tap into multiple revenue streams and maximize profits in a changing market. Future will be different. Tesla will lead the charge.

you ever think about how autonomous technology is gonna change public transportation? it could become cheaper and there could be more frequent routes and new ones too.


i mean theres a reason some people think significantly advanced AI will lead to a post scarcity world. You're betting on AI to save the company which I think might be it's only chance too but sufficiently advanced AI will undoubtedly change engineering and the manufacturing process to make it it cheaper and faster. same thing that could possibly save tesla could very well bring about new competitors especially since we know the level of investment into this tech is at a fever pitch. lots of companies including tesla are just taking different approaches to ultimately achieve the same goal, tesla has a lead in some areas but for how long? lots of companies are debuting innovative AI successes at a fast rate that quickly gets eclipsed by other companies achieving better results.
 
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