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Elon Musk’s X ad revenue reportedly fell $1.5B this year amid boycotts

"We are not Twitter any longer," X exec said.

ASHLEY BELANGER - 12/13/2023, 1:23 PM

Elon Musk’s X ad revenue reportedly fell $1.5B this year amid boycotts

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It's hard to know exactly how dire the financial situation is at Elon Musk's X (formerly Twitter). However, insider sources recently revealed to Bloomberg that the social media platform expects to end 2023 with "roughly" $2.5 billion in advertising revenue.

That's "a significant slump from prior years," sources said. It's also about half a billion short of the $3 billion that X executives expected to make in ad sales in 2023, one source said.

Last year, Twitter raked in more than $1 billion in ad revenue per quarter, sources said. But in each of the first three quarters of 2023, X only managed to generate "a little more than $600 million" in ad revenue. Now, the most recent advertiser fallout over antisemitic content on X—estimated in November as triggering a sudden $75 million loss—is still casting a shadow on what could become an even more dismal fourth quarter.

Sources told Bloomberg that advertising earnings comprise 70–75 percent of X's revenue. This suggests that X's total earnings in 2023 will be "roughly $3.4 billion," boosted by subscriptions and data licensing deals, Bloomberg reported.

Joe Benarroch, head of X business operations, told Bloomberg that its report "presents an incomplete view of our entire business, as the sources you’re relying on for information are not providing accurate and comprehensive details."

Benarroch also made it clear that X is no longer interested in being compared to Twitter. According to Bloomberg, Benarroch said that X is an “evolving NEW global business with multiple revenue streams. We are not Twitter any longer and not measuring ourselves by old Twitter metrics—both in revenue and user metrics.”

X did not immediately respond to Ars' request to comment.

Musk beefing with Disney on X

After Musk boosted an antisemitic post on X, he apologized, but he never removed his controversial postand continued antagonizing advertisers that he claimed were "going to kill the company."

Among the major brands pausing advertising on X is Disney, which seems to have particularly offended Musk. He's spent the past week targeting Disney CEO Bob Iger in a series of X posts, calling out Disney for boycotting X. Musk appears particularly frustrated that Disney is advertising on Meta platforms after New Mexico Attorney General Raúl Torrez filed a lawsuit alleging that Facebook and Instagram are "prime locations for predators to trade child pornography and solicit minors for sex."

Last December, Musk was similarly beefing with Apple through a Twitter tirade that Musk admitted later was due to his own "misunderstanding" about Apple's decision-making. That beef didn't seem to impact any of X's other advertiser relationships long-term, but the latest advertiser boycott does not appear that it will be resolved quickly. Musk's continued inflammatory statements about advertisers and the platform's recent decision to reinstate the X account of Sandy Hook shooting-denier Alex Jones could keep advertisers off X. That, as Musk has warned, risks causing serious long-term damage to X as a viable platform.

Although Twitter/X stopped publicly reporting financial data when Musk took over Twitter in 2022, Musk has been transparent about advertiser revenue being down by "roughly 50 percent" throughout 2023. In September, Musk confirmed that things were getting worse, reporting that ad sales were down by 60 percent and blaming groups monitoring hate speech for spooking advertisers off with their #StopToxicTwitter campaign.

Musk has always said that his goal for X is to reduce reliance on advertising by pivoting to subscriptions he hoped would one day comprise half of X's earnings. But X subscriptions are not as popular as planned, sources told Bloomberg. So far, X only has "just over 1 million paying subscribers"—out of hundreds of millions of X users—and X's subscription revenue is "less than $120 million annually," sources said.

X has rarely been profitable, but under Musk, its financial growth so far appears to have been significantly set back. Before Musk took control, Twitter earned more than $5 billion in 2021, Bloomberg reported, and that year Jack Dorsey "set a public goal to reach $7.5 billion in revenue by the end of 2023." That projection makes the current $3.4 billion estimate for 2023 appear especially stark.

As many big brands remain hesitant to advertise on X, the platform is offering deals hoping to attract smaller brands to invest more in the platform.

Generating more ad revenue is crucial not just to meet X's financial goals in 2024 but also to hit Musk's projection of 1 billion monthly X users in 2024. Musk's plan to attract more users largely depends on content creators lured to increase engagement on X by lucrative ad revenue sharing recently launched by the platform.

Creators have already voiced concerns that the current boycott will impact their ability to profit on the platform, and so far, Musk has only said that there's "not much we can do if advertisers boycott or reduce spend on our platform."
 

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Bruh what is up with all these sketchy ads for random ass items? I’ve been getting nothing but these the past few weeks. I haven’t seen an ad from a legit company during that time.


Some of those shyts look like false advertising too.

I've been seeing ads for some type of toy ball that flies around the room like a ufo but it's obviously cgi.
 
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I'm becoming more and more anti-Elon, but to play devil's advocate maybe Elon is just giving Alex Jones "enough rope to hang himself" ? ...
Why do you give a dead person rope to hang themself? Jones was at best on his deathbed, and Musk resuscitated him to own the libs. He's an absolute moron.
 
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Yep that’s all I’ve been getting. shyt is like they unleashed the bots to try and get people to sub.

The genius really thought 10s of millions of people were going to pay $96 a year for something that used to be free? :dead:

 

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Elon Musk Is Getting Absolutely Destroyed in Sweden​


"Even if you are one of the richest people in the world, you can’t just make your own rules."​

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The pressure against Tesla is really starting to mount in northern Europe.

After unions stopped unloading Tesla vehicles from ships in Sweden last month over a labor disagreement with the Elon Musk-led company, the Swedish Transport Workers' union announced today that it will stop collecting waste at Tesla workshops on Christmas Eve to turn up the pressure — unless, of course, the EV maker signs a collective agreement in Sweden.

And it's not just Sweden — many neighboring countries are now also looking to take action in solidarity.

"This kind of sympathy action is very unusual," Tommy Wreeth, head of the transport union, told the Financial Times. "We are doing it now to protect the integrity of Swedish collective agreements and the Swedish labor market model."

"Tesla cannot buck the norm in the Swedish labor market," he added.

In late October, workers under the IF Metall union went on strike, arguing that Tesla wasn't willing to bargain with the union over wages, pensions, and insurance.

Unsurprisingly, given Musk's previous pursuit of union-busting tactics, Tesla has refused to come to the table ever since.

Instead of beating around the bush, Musk has been overt about his hatred for collective bargaining and workers' rights.

"I disagree with the idea of unions," he said during the New York Times's Dealbook Summit last week, the same event at which he told advertisers to go "fukk" themselves.

Unsurprisingly, the company's inaction on the matter has led to an outpouring of solidarity, with unions across Sweden banding together against the carmaker, blocking imports at ports and refusing to repair damaged Tesla chargers, among other actions.

Postal workers have stopped delivering mail to the company, including license plates. A local court of appeal also overturned Tesla's attempts to have license plates directly delivered from the Swedish Transport Agency.

Meanwhile, Musk has called the strike "insane," effectively throwing fuel onto the growing fire.

Fast forward just over a week, and unions in Norway, Denmark, and Finland have now said they're also ready to stop unloading cars from ships, according to the Financial Times.

And it's not just workers. Denmark's largest pension fund announced last week that it's selling its Tesla stock holdings over Musk's refusal to bargain.

Now, the Swedish Transport Workers' union is leaving the carmaker with a literal trash pile by refusing to pick up garbage from the company.

Musk isn't just picking a fight with Swedish workers — he's drawing out a lengthy legal battle with much of northern Europe.

And there's plenty on the line for the carmaker, as Teslas are hugely popular in Sweden and Norway.

"Even if you are one of the richest people in the world, you can’t just make your own rules," said Jan Villadsen, the chairman of the 3F union’s transport division, in a statement. "We have some agreements on the labor market in the Nordics, and you have to comply with them if you want to do business here."

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