General Elon Musk Fukkery Thread

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The people who made the decision to loan billions to this idiot should lose their jobs.

bankers make bad deals all the time, the bad deals of this size usually take 4-10 years to really materialize as a BAD deal. the point is to earn props and bonuses for making the deal and moving on up elsewhere in the bank or at another institution before shyt hits the fan. the deals are always initially attractive because of the interests payments made on the loan. private equity firms finesse banks for leveraged buyouts with attractive interest payments and collateral, then they use the good credit of the business to get multi-million dollar loans that they have no intention of paying back, execs gets bonuses and the business goes deep into the red and creditors can fight over the scraps when bankruptcy is filed.

trump ran a similar scam and thats why american banks stopped giving him loans and then he went to the russians.

edit: I had A.I write a story on how it works...
Sure, here's a detailed story about how a leveraged buyout can be done:

Let's say there is a company called ABC Corporation that has been struggling financially for some time. The company has a lot of debt and is having trouble meeting its obligations. However, the company also has valuable assets, such as real estate or intellectual property, that could be used as collateral for a loan.

Enter a private equity firm called XYZ Capital. XYZ Capital sees an opportunity to make a profit by acquiring ABC Corporation through a leveraged buyout. They approach ABC Corporation with an offer to buy the company for a premium price, but they don't have the cash to do so. Instead, they propose a leveraged buyout.

In a leveraged buyout, the private equity firm borrows money to finance the acquisition of the target company. The borrowed money is secured by the assets of the target company, which means that if the target company defaults on the loan, the lender can seize those assets to recover their money.

XYZ Capital proposes to borrow $100 million from a bank to finance the acquisition of ABC Corporation. They will use the assets of ABC Corporation as collateral for the loan. To sweeten the deal, they offer the bank an attractive interest rate and promise to repay the loan within five years.

The bank agrees to the loan, and XYZ Capital acquires ABC Corporation for $150 million. They use the $50 million difference between the purchase price and the loan amount to pay themselves a hefty dividend.

Now, XYZ Capital owns ABC Corporation, but they have a lot of debt to service. They start cutting costs and laying off employees to improve profitability. However, they also start taking on more debt to fund their operations. They use the assets of ABC Corporation as collateral for these new loans, which puts the company at even greater risk.

Eventually, ABC Corporation can no longer keep up with its debt payments, and it files for bankruptcy. The bank that lent XYZ Capital the money to acquire ABC Corporation is left holding the bag, as they cannot recover their money from the bankrupt company. Meanwhile, XYZ Capital walks away with a hefty profit, having extracted value from ABC Corporation without ever intending to pay back the loan.

This is just one example of how a leveraged buyout can be done, and it highlights the risks involved in this type of financial operation. While leveraged buyouts can be a way for companies to access capital and grow their businesses, they can also be used by private equity firms to extract value from struggling companies without regard for the long-term consequences.


me: can you cite some well-known real-world examples of this happening?

AI: Certainly! Here are a few well-known real-world examples of leveraged buyouts:
  1. RJR Nabisco: In 1989, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts (KKR) acquired RJR Nabisco in a leveraged buyout worth $25 billion. KKR used a combination of debt and equity to finance the acquisition, and the deal became one of the largest leveraged buyouts in history.
  2. Toys "R" Us: In 2005, a group of private equity firms including Bain Capital, KKR, and Vornado Realty Trust acquired Toys "R" Us in a leveraged buyout worth $6.6 billion. The deal saddled the company with a significant amount of debt, which ultimately led to its bankruptcy in 2017.
  3. Hertz: In 2005, a group of private equity firms including Clayton Dubilier & Rice, Carlyle Group, and Merrill Lynch Global Private Equity acquired Hertz in a leveraged buyout worth $15 billion. The deal was financed with a significant amount of debt, and Hertz struggled to meet its debt obligations in the years following the acquisition.
  4. Energy Future Holdings: In 2007, a group of private equity firms including KKR, TPG, and Goldman Sachs acquired Energy Future Holdings (formerly known as TXU) in a leveraged buyout worth $45 billion. The deal was one of the largest leveraged buyouts in history, and it saddled the company with a significant amount of debt. Energy Future Holdings filed for bankruptcy in 2014.
These are just a few examples of leveraged buyouts that have made headlines over the years. While leveraged buyouts can be a way for companies to access capital and grow their businesses, they can also be risky and lead to financial difficulties if not managed properly.
 
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now we just have to wait and see if he react as fast to the next mass shooting done by someone with a twitter account. I doubt he'll be consistent if the shooters ideology or race doesn't fit the narrative he likes promoted on the site.

he's rooting so hard for some militant PETA liberal to stab someone in the arm or some shyt, so he can "bleach" their account and then pull some bothsides moderate bullshyt like, "we do this to everyone as to not further fuel the flames. if you paid us $32 a month we can blah blah blah" or some dumb shyt. i fukkin hate this guy
 

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bankers make bad deals all the time, the bad deals of this size usually take 4-10 years to really materialize as a BAD deal. the point is to earn props and bonuses for making the deal and moving on up elsewhere in the bank or at another institution before shyt hits the fan. the deals are always initially attractive because of the interests payments made on the loan. private equity firms finesse banks for leveraged buyouts with attractive interest payments and collateral, then they use the good credit of the business to get multi-million dollar loans that they have no intention of paying back, execs gets bonuses and the business goes deep into the red and creditors can fight over the scraps when bankruptcy is filed.

trump ran a similar scam and thats why american banks stopped giving him loans and then he went to the russians.

So it’s basically a bust out?

 

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So it’s basically a bust out?



it's all legal when the private equity firms do it. they leave retirement funds and banks holding the bag. the retirement funds are investors clients who initially get good returns for a year or two before it goes predictably south due to "market conditions". the scam can go on for years or sometimes 1-2 decades which is how they get away with it.
 

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More Musk News :mjlit:


“When I say payments, I actually mean someone’s entire financial life,” Musk said, according to audio of the meeting obtained by The Verge. “If it involves money. It’ll be on our platform. Money or securities or whatever. So, it’s not just like send $20 to my friend. I’m talking about, like, you won’t need a bank account.”

X CEO Linda Yaccarino said the company sees this becoming a “full opportunity” in 2024. “It would blow my mind if we don’t have that rolled out by the end of next year,” Musk said.

The company is currently working on locking down money transmission licenses across the US so that it can offer financial services. Musk told employees Thursday that he hopes to get the others X needs in “the next few months.”

Musk has discussed his plans to turn X into a financial hub before. He even renamed Twitter after his dot-com-boom-era online bank, X.com, which eventually became part of PayPal. He previously said the platform would offer high-yield money market accounts, debit cards, checks, and loan services, with the goal of letting users “send money anywhere in the world instantly and in real-time.”

Also a WaPo Article.

 

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More Musk News :mjlit:




Also a WaPo Article.



fukking hilarious that he's going to try to convince people to completely trust their lives over to him after he's done everything possible to destroy all trust.

Even if this shyt even gets off the ground, it could be a Trump-like situation where he's basically scamming his own cult following continuously and everyone else stays away.

If it turns into an SBF situation and he starts raiding his users' accounts to pay back the Saudis' loans.... :dead:
 

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fukking hilarious that he's going to try to convince people to completely trust their lives over to him after he's done everything possible to destroy all trust.

Even if this shyt even gets off the ground, it could be a Trump-like situation where he's basically scamming his own cult following continuously and everyone else stays away.

If it turns into an SBF situation and he starts raiding his users' accounts to pay back the Saudis' loans.... :dead:

Honestly if Elon scams them, they really should lose their money. SBF was a Scamgod himself, but he kept it quiet, like a Natural Ponzi scheme. Musk is a different breed, dude is like walking embodiment of Shinning Time Station Schemer; he says the most wild shyt ever with no results, yet because Alpha Cryptobros think he is the savior, they clap and cheer.

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