Genealogy Thread

[I AM WE ARE]

Its funny cause my great grandmother grandmother some my aunties can pass for white.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

this is what I figured



yup, I noticed this. The same people Im talking were listed as "black" by the 1920s




in the 1800 census, thir race isn't listed but later on I saw them listed as mulatto->negro



Cool. Also, Im stuck at 1817 and I can't seem to get back any further in this branch

Finally made it into the 1790's ( a 5th great grandfather)

 

[xoxodede]

Finally made it into the 1790's ( a 5th great grandfather)

Congrats! It's a beautiful feeling finding them and seeing their names.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Congrats! It's a beautiful feeling finding them and seeing their names.

yup

Also there is a dna connection linking me back further to his supposed parents (their names and birth dates are listed) but I haven't seen the paper trail to confirm it yet. I contacted the person (distant relative) and I'm waiting for them to respond in how do they know the people they have listed are his parents

 

[I AM WE ARE]

yup

Also there is a dna connection linking me back further to his supposed parents (their names and birth dates are listed) but I haven't seen the paper trail to confirm it yet. I contacted the person (distant relative) and I'm waiting for them to respond in how do they know the people they have listed are his parents

Lemme know if they respond because I want to do the same (reach out) but I'm hesitant

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Lemme know if they respond because I want to do the same (reach out)

so far they haven't lol

but I'm hesitant

Yeah, I get a weird feeling when I think about messaging random people I could be related to but obviously, know nothing about lol.

 

[Samori Toure]

FamilyTree DNA recently did an update called 3.0 and I think that it is outstanding. I am still researching to see how many samples they have for Africa, but from I am seeing they seem to be covering more regions and they explain the significance of those regions to African American ancestry. Regional overlap is also covered and they lump together regions that actually makes historical sense for the ethnic groups that lived there and for those that invaded the lands later. They still do not seem to cover Burkina Faso, but at least the circles for the regions of Ghana, Togo and Benin/Liberia and Ivory Coast goes into Southern Burkina Faso which is historically accurate.

West Africa contains the following Population Clusters:

• Ghana, Togo & Benin (It is estimated that 50% of African-American ancestry can be traced)
• Guinea & Sierra Leone (Mende peoples were sold into the transatlantic slave trade as European interest grew in the region. Many of the Gullah peoples of the southeastern part of the United States have roots that can be traced back to the various peoples of Sierra Leone. Merchants secured Africans from this region via Bunce island and brought them to South Carolina and Georgia due to their expertise in rice growing. Today, African cultural traditions are still practiced by the Gullah peoples.)
• Liberia & Ivory Coast (It is estimated that about seven percent of African-American ancestry is derived from the peoples of this region.)
• Nigeria (A significant source of African-American ancestry is derived from Yoruba and Esan peoples, along with other peoples of Nigeria.)
• Senegal, Gambia & Guinea-Bissau (Approximately 13% of African-American ancestry can be traced to the peoples of this region.)

Central Africa contains the following Population Clusters:

• Atlantic Equatorial Africa (A significant contribution of African ancestry among African Americans comes from the western Central African Bantu homelands)
• Northern Congo Basin (Today, a significant portion of African-American ancestry comes from these western Central Bantu-speaking peoples)
• Southern Congo Basin (Today, approximately 30% of African-American ancestry comes from the Angolese Bantu-speaking peoples)

Horn of Africa contains the following Population Clusters:

• Eritrea, Northern Ethiopia & Somalia
• Southern Ethiopia

East Africa contains the following Population Clusters:

• Eastern Lake Victoria Basin
• Western Lake Victoria Basin

myOrigins Version 3.0 Population Clusters – FamilyTreeDNA Learning Center
myOrigins Version 3.0 Update – FamilyTreeDNA Learning Center
myOrigins 3.0 Is Here! | FamilyTreeDNA Blog

My updated results are the type of splits that should be expected if they the testing services are actually testing diverse regional populations. The updates cover the invasions of the Mande populations into adjacent regions to Mali (like Guinea, Sierra Leone, Ivory Coast, Liberia, Senegal, Gambia and Guinea-Bissau)

Africa 85%

West Africa
Nigeria 29%
Guinea & Sierra Leone 18%
Ghana, Togo & Benin 13%
Senegal, Gambia & Guinea-Bissau 4%
Liberia & Ivory Coast <2%

Central Africa
Northern Congo Basin (Cameroon) 9%
Atlantic Equatorial Africa (Gabon, Republic of Congo, Democratic Republic of Congo and Equatorial Guinea) 5%
Southern Congo Basin (Angola) 4%

East Africa
Western Lake Victoria Basin info <1%
Eastern Lake Victoria Basin info <1%

Horn of Africa
Eritrea, Northern Ethiopia & Somalia info <1%

Europe13%
Western Europe
Scandinavia 13%

Middle East <2%
North Africa
Maghreb & Egypt info <2%

Asia<1%
Myanmar
Myanmar info <1%


FamilyTree DNA regional scores seems to confirm the information that I received from African Ancestry that my mother's maternal line is from Sierra Leone and my father's paternal line is from Burkina Faso and that both lines are Mande. Personally I think that Family Tree is better than the stuff that I have seen from 23andme and AncestryDNA. I think that FamilyTree DNA will allow a person to upload their results from another company and Family Tree will run the results. It used cost something like $20.00, but I am not sure how much it costs these days.

If anyone is interested in reading the updated historical information on the regions then let me know and I will post it.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

some new/interesting stuff from my paternal grandma's side:

this is from my 4th great grandfather b 1797 ( a white guy) and his slave/my 4th great grandmother born 1809-1812()


came across her slave census

extra info

 

[Ol’Otis]

Finally found the true identity of my 2nd great grandfather

For some odd reason him and his brothers changed their first name

not only that none of his nieces and nephews have pictures of him

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Not sure if there's one buried in the past here, but if not lets have one.

How far have yall gone back?

circa 1775 (a 5th great grandparent)

 

[brandy]

Ancestry should be free for all black people.

 

[xoxodede]

Ancestry should be free for all black people.

Totally agree.

 

[robbyfine]

Interesting. My Grandmother turned 81 this year and my grandfather is turning 92 soon. Every time we go to China, we practice the ritual of ancestor veneration and I got some data translated by https://isaccurate.com/best-chinese-translatiоn-companies . My grandparents have a shrine of my great grandparents at their home and we always go there to worship them. I think it's very important to know your family history! It's nice to see many keen people interested in their family history.

 

[invalid]

I have been trying to research this cryptic poem left on the 1850 marriage license of my 4th great grandparents Alexander and Sarah Clark McCune.

Black is the cloud, without one sunbeam;
Long is the day, that has no moon.
But blacker that heart that could refuse
To marry Miss Clark to Aleck Mc Cune.

Someone obviously didn't want them married.

Sarah Clark was from a FPOC family. I've got the paper trail that links her family back to a white woman named Judith Clark and an unknown black male.

CLARK FAMILY

1. Judith Clarke, the servant of Joshua Slade of York Parish, York County, Virginia, confessed in court on 24 August 1694 that she committed the "sinn of fornication with a Negro" [DOW 10:3, 28].

I was able to trace Alexander back to Staunton, Virginia, where him and his mother Esther were owned by a Samuel McCune who emacipated them at the time of his death.

We match a ton of white relatives that descend from Samuel McCune, so it's safe to say that he was the one to father Alexander.

Question for you guys.
For a lot of black folks, this is the end of the road.
But do you all continue to trace back the white side of the family?
It would virtually be impossible to try to find Esther's lineage.

 

[xoxodede]

I have been trying to research this cryptic poem left on the 1850 marriage license of my 4th great grandparents Alexander and Sarah Clark McCune.

Someone obviously didn't want them married.

Sarah Clark was from a FPOC family. I've got the paper trail that links her family back to a white woman named Judith Clark and an unknown black male.



I was able to trace Alexander back to Staunton, Virginia, where him and his mother Esther were owned by a Samuel McCune who emacipated them at the time of his death.

We match a ton of white relatives that descend from Samuel McCune, so it's safe to say that he was the one to father Alexander.

Question for you guys.
For a lot of black folks, this is the end of the road.
But do you all continue to trace back the white side of the family?
It would virtually be impossible to try to find Esther's lineage.

So interesting!

I personally think you should try to find Esther's lineage.

I think if they have that much documentation on her manumission-- I am sure they have Esther's Mother listed somewhere. Especially, if Esther's was only 46 years old when she was released.

Q: Have you looked at the Estate/Will of Samuel McCune for any details?

Q: Have you come across a McCune Family tree expert/record keeper? If not, I would reach out and see if they can help you.

Q: Lastly, I would try to request the death record for Esther and see if her parents are listed. You may need to contact the county she died in and see if they could help you. FPOC records are usually available -- and with more details that others.

On White folks, nope. They don't exist unless it's to help lead me to my enslaved ancestors.