Gene Deal Exposes Puffy: Bad Boy Artists Publishing Is Worth Nothing. It's A Publicity Stunt. 💥 The Art Of Dialogue

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Why is Gene Deal so mad at puff? The publishing can't be worth what it once was, but at least it will be going to the artist. Crazy things happen, like when Running Up That Hill got a second push from being used in Stranger Things.


He was there when Big and Pac was alive and said that it could have been prevented..

From his mouth, he witnessed Fluff say

"I dont care if Big dies, I Dont care if Pac dies".

That ballerina saw Big as just a Dollar sign
 

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:youngsabo:Its almost the anniversary of Pac's death and they are bout to lock Keefe D up soon...

This is a diversion to keep the eyes of Fluff Daddy.
 

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He was there when Big and Pac was alive and said that it could have been prevented..

From his mouth, he witnessed Fluff say

"I dont care if Big dies, I Dont care if Pac dies".

That ballerina saw Big as just a Dollar sign
But he still kept working for Puff the coming years and started hating after hè was let go
 

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We family, but I'm gonna put myself in your video and charge you afterwards:obama:
That's part of the game and milking the budget.
That's what Mase was trying to get Camron to understand back in the day.
 

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BECAUSE HE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF YOUNG CATS
FROM THE HOOD
AND BOUGHT THEIR PUB FOR CRUMBS
KNOWING THEY DIDNT KNOW WHAT IS WAS3sa
NOR HOW IT WORKED
WHILE PRETENDING TO BE FAMILY.
:devil:
:evil:


Q
 

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i knew this was going to happen. i think a lot of posters are confused between publishing and masters. masters are whats worth the real money
Masters is who owns in order to control it, but publishing is how you eat. They don't have to own their masters to be paid. But in most of their cases, they didn't have either, so it was a moot point. If they own their publishing, but not the masters, Puff can sit on this ish forever and never let anymore Bad Boy properties be heard until he sells that. In which case, they still aren't paid.
 

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CAN YALL LIST ALL OF THE PUBLISHING
THEY OWN?

LABELS USUALLY WORRY
ABOUT OWNING THE MASTERS.

BUYING YOUR ARTISTS PUBLISHING ISNT COMMON PLACE

:devil:
:evil:



Did they give any of their artists their masters back? No? Why y’all bashing Diddy for giving back assets that he bought legally.
 

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Did they give any of their artists their masters back? No? Why y’all bashing Diddy for giving back assets that he bought legally.


NAH DONT GOAL POST MOVE.

LIST ALL OF THIS PUBLISHING
JIMMY AND LYOR OWN.




:devil:
:evil:


 

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Gene Deal has so many stories about Puff being evil. Also from 91-99 . Anyone from these podcasts please ask Gene why hè started hating and working for Puff 4 years after Big died?
This fekket comes out of hiding every few years with sole intent of sticking up for puffy :mjlol:
 

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I never got this "he took advantage of young cats from the hood argument". It assumes young cats from the hood are dumb and naive. Its young cats from the hood that had their own labels and signed artists, this includes Puff.

This is no different from someone being a first time buyer of a car or house and not understanding that the bank that is financing the purchase bought the car or house. You now owe the bank plus the interest. The only bargaining chip you have is CREDIT. For a recording artist, that credit is literal. If you sign a contract with no prior credits, you are at the mercy of the label.

I don't know how their contracts were drawn up or who drafted them. And if we're using the young cats from the hood argument, how old do you think Puff was when he started Bad Boy? He wad an intern and I'm quite sure all that money ain't just land in his lap without Puff himself signing deals that where he was at a disadvantage until he was able to prove his worth.

New artists are in no position to negotiate anything unless they have written or produced for other artists. Even then, its still a battle.
 

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I never got this "he took advantage of young cats from the hood argument". It assumes young cats from the hood are dumb and naive. Its young cats from the hood that had their own labels and signed artists, this includes Puff.

This is no different from someone being a first time buyer of a car or house and not understanding that the bank that is financing the purchase bought the car or house. You now owe the bank plus the interest. The only bargaining chip you have is CREDIT. For a recording artist, that credit is literal. If you sign a contract with no prior credits, you are at the mercy of the label.

I don't know how their contracts were drawn up or who drafted them. And if we're using the young cats from the hood argument, how old do you think Puff was when he started Bad Boy? He wad an intern and I'm quite sure all that money ain't just land in his lap without Puff himself signing deals that where he was at a disadvantage until he was able to prove his worth.

New artists are in no position to negotiate anything unless they have written or produced for other artists. Even then, its still a battle.
But the thing is essentially, he still middlemans them. So he will receive his paycheck regardless, being that he gets paid both ways...from the parent label and from what he makes from the artists. He actually has job security.

It's not just young dudes from the hood though. No matter what you present and this goes for whoever, everyone knows that the "there's 100,000 that will jump that this opportunity being present to you" argument will always connect with someone. It doesn't matter how slanted against the person whatever deal is.
 
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