Gay Couple Forced to Sit at the Back of the Bus in Albequerque

[The Real]

thats just ugly language...admit you've got anger and hate in your heart and to be rationally honest its not healthy. I find homosexuality between men disgusting...but i also find the thought of geriatric people having sex disgusting

does that mean that I sit here and take time out of my day hating either of these groups of people? That would be silly wouldn't it? Having a hate grandpa agenda and all. No they are both within their rights to engage in whatever behavior that pleases them since it doesn't hurt me or anyone else for that matter

you get nothing of value holding on to this hatred and deep down wanting to see people suffer or thinking of them as less than human is a dangerous road that is similar to the mindset of an Adolf Hitler or Plantation owner during the days of the slave trade when you begin to look at people as less than human.

Ultimately people are people and they all have potential to hold tremendous value in life when they are rational law abiding people regardless of race gender or sexual orientation...

Seems like you've come a long way. What you're saying here is the only mature position. This is honestly what it comes down to- I don't find the thought of gay sex remotely appealing, but I don't spend my time thinking about it, and what people do in their private lives, when it doesn't hurt anyone, is no reason for me to treat them differently in public or when they're around me, or to define them as people based entirely on that one part of their lives.

 

[The Real]

Dude was out of line but it doesn't go along with your "Civil Rights" agenda you attended on putting it across to us. You still haven't given the law that claims what you said earlier.

I never said anything about civil rights. And do you really need me to explain to you how legal discrimination against homosexuals exists?

 

[thekingsmen]

I never said anything about civil rights. And do you really need me to explain to you how legal discrimination against homosexuals exists?

1. The title is misleading....they didn't have to be on the bus.
2. The MJ smilie was used for a reason...pinpointing your agenda
3. Legal discrimination will come for Blacks, Latinos before it comes for homosexuals. This is America...tell them where were they over the last 50 years.

 

[The Real]

1. The title is misleading....they didn't have to be on the bus.

No one ever has to be on a bus. That doesn't mean anyone should be forced to sit at the back for no valid reason.

2. The MJ smilie was used for a reason...pinpointing your agenda

It was used because I knew it would elicit an emotional reaction in some people.

3. Legal discrimination will come for Blacks, Latinos before it comes for homosexuals. This is America...tell them where were they over the last 50 years.

You're not thinking clearly.

 

[thekingsmen]

No one ever has to be on a bus. That doesn't mean anyone should be forced to sit at the back for no valid reason.



It was used because I knew it would elicit an emotional reaction in some people.



You're not thinking clearly.

1. Ummmm back in the South those were the only buses in the areas for miles....
2. You used it for an emotional reaction to a non-story?
3. Im thinking clear my friend. When the U.S. is on a brink of Economic Collapse and a Third-World War you are worried about a couple who is gay getting told to be on the back of the bus.

 

[Chris.B]

thats just ugly language...admit you've got anger and hate in your heart and to be rationally honest its not healthy. I find homosexuality between men disgusting...but i also find the thought of geriatric people having sex disgusting

does that mean that I sit here and take time out of my day hating either of these groups of people? That would be silly wouldn't it? Having a hate grandpa agenda and all. No they are both within their rights to engage in whatever behavior that pleases them since it doesn't hurt me or anyone else for that matter

you get nothing of value holding on to this hatred and deep down wanting to see people suffer or thinking of them as less than human is a dangerous road that is similar to the mindset of an Adolf Hitler or Plantation owner during the days of the slave trade when you begin to look at people as less than human.

Ultimately people are people and they all have potential to hold tremendous value in life when they are rational law abiding people regardless of race gender or sexual orientation...

now if your talking about child predators and pedophiles they indeed are criminal individuals who are ruining someone's childhood with their actions and they need to either be castrated or just taken out because they diminish value from the world

Personally I see homosexuals in the same way I see both groups...

 

[Slystallion]

Personally I see homosexuals in the same way I see both groups...

I understand where you might feel there might be a connection between both behaviors but from a strict behavior standpoint two consenting adults have every right to do what they want with each other and there is a clear distinction when a child is involved because the child in many instances may not even be sexually developed nor have the mental capacity to really make decisions about their sexuality...and thats an age that is up for debate but for the most part most ages of consent in U.S. range from 16-18 where the law feels they are old enough to make a decision on sexual activity.

Unless there is scientific evidence linking homosexuals with rampant child predator behavior and they are both found to be mental illnesses that cannot be controlled you can't really make that connection, but i understand the reservations and naturally i think all fathers would think twice about allowing their children to be taken care of by say a gay male baby sitter let alone any male. I'm sure someone here can link studies trying to see if there is a link to those two behaviors but there is no consensus on whether homosexuality is a hormone imbalance, a mental disorder, or something people willfully choose to engage in and i'm not God nor sophisticated enough to make any sure claim on any of that.

but i won't hold it against religious people to find homosexuality a sin or an act against nature because technically for consummation purposes homosexuality serves no purpose and like i said earlier i think people have the right to not find it appealing but we as humans cannot treat them as subhuman or give them any lesser rights than any other person would have...and no marriage isn't a right its a custom but its also become an issue of legality so thats something states have to tackle on what type of unions they classify in terms of legal privileges

 

[ltheghost]

And here we go. I'm expecting the Gay Rosa Parks to come out next month. Anything to compare and contrast the Gay Rights Movement to Civil Rights Movement...ANYTHING. I'm just waiting for the Gay March on Washington next.

 

[daze23]

And here we go. I'm expecting the Gay Rosa Parks to come out next month. Anything to compare and contrast the Gay Rights Movement to Civil Rights Movement...ANYTHING. I'm just waiting for the Gay March on Washington next.

they were sent to the back of the bus breh. how can anyone ignore the connection?

 

[ltheghost]

they were sent to the back of the bus breh. how can anyone ignore the connection?

I'm not ignoring the injustice, I'm just getting ready for the media to hype this the fukk up to ninth level. Then we will start hearing about the similarities between the gay movement and the civil rights movement all day on the news. As if they are the same movement from the same mother but different fathers. The big difference here is the driver disapproved of their actions (hand holding) compared to just being black on the bus.

 

[The Real]

1. Ummmm back in the South those were the only buses in the areas for miles....

I see. So if Black people living in the first half of the 20th century had other buses to use, then it would have been ok to send them to the back to the bus on some of them? That's the only possible conclusion your reasoning suggests.

2. You used it for an emotional reaction to a non-story?

Clearly, it did elicit an emotional reaction, in you, among others.

3. Im thinking clear my friend. When the U.S. is on a brink of Economic Collapse and a Third-World War you are worried about a couple who is gay getting told to be on the back of the bus.

This is a strawman. I never stated that I was worried about this story more than about the economy or war. The economy is also not on the brink of a collapse, nor is a world war around the corner.

I'm not ignoring the injustice, I'm just getting ready for the media to hype this the fukk up to ninth level. Then we will start hearing about the similarities between the gay movement and the civil rights movement all day on the news. As if they are the same movement from the same mother but different fathers. The big difference here is the driver disapproved of their actions (hand holding) compared to just being black on the bus.

He objected to them holding hands specifically because they were gay. He didn't know they were gay until he saw them holding hands. He wouldn't have made a straight couple go to the back of the bus for holding hands.

 

[thekingsmen]

I'm not ignoring the injustice, I'm just getting ready for the media to hype this the fukk up to ninth level. Then we will start hearing about the similarities between the gay movement and the civil rights movement all day on the news. As if they are the same movement from the same mother but different fathers. The big difference here is the driver disapproved of their actions (hand holding) compared to just being black on the bus.

Word....50's discrimination was public policy. This was a individual act.

 

[thekingsmen]

I see. So if Black people living in the first half of the 20th century had other buses to use, then it would have been ok to send them to the back to the bus on some of them? That's the only possible conclusion your reasoning suggests.



Clearly, it did elicit an emotional reaction, in you, among others.



This is a strawman. I never stated that I was worried about this story more than about the economy or war. The economy is also not on the brink of a collapse, nor is a world war around the corner.

1. Wrong. You can't equate the two situations but are trying so hard to make it look like something it isn't.
2. There is no emotional to a non-story.
3. Obviously it seems more important to you since you haven't brought these two subjects up but are quick to go with this story.

 

[ltheghost]

He objected to them holding hands specifically because they were gay. He didn't know they were gay until he saw them holding hands. He wouldn't have made a straight couple go to the back of the bus for holding hands.

And that's why it shouldn't be blown up the way the media is about to. You have ONE bus driver being an a$$hole to two people. Back in 60's, this was done to EVERYONE who was Black. But watch...next week. Gay Rosa Parks story.

 

[The Real]

1. Wrong. You can't equate the two situations but are trying so hard to make it look like something it isn't.

I didn' t equate them. You said that this situation was different just because they didn't have to be on that bus. That means that you're also endorsing the idea that a situation where there are alternate options means the discrimination is less serious. That means you think that Black people getting sent to the back of the bus wouldn't have been a big deal if they had other buses to use. That's your line of thought, not mine.

2. There is no emotional to a non-story.

And yet here you are...

3. Obviously it seems more important to you since you haven't brought these two subjects up but are quick to go with this story.

I didn't bring up "economic collapse" because we're not on the brink of one. I didn't bring up world war because there isn't one around the corner. I've posted about the economy and foreign conflict many times, though.

And that's why it shouldn't be blown up the way the media is about to. You have ONE bus driver being an @sshole to two people. Back in 60's, this was done to EVERYONE who was Black. But watch...next week. Gay Rosa Parks story.

I doubt the media will blow this up. There's much more immediate, severe, widespread discrimination homosexuals have to deal with than this.