Gas attack in Syria kills dozens: US forces launch strike on Shayrat Airbase in Homs (4+ dead)

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Although Russian officials said they would freeze the system in response to the missile strike, American military officials said on Friday that it had not been suspended — so far, at least — and in fact it had been used earlier in the day.
 

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Trumpset not happy

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/us/trump-far-alt-right-syria.html?_r=0

Some of President Trump’s most ardent campaign supporters were among his most vocal opponents on Thursday after he ordered the missile strike against Syria, charging him with breaking his promise to keep the United States out of another conflict in the Middle East.

Prominent writers and bloggers on the far right attacked Mr. Trump. They accused him of turning against his voters by waging an attack that he had for years said would be a terrible idea. They also criticized him for launching the strike without first seeking congressional approval — something he said on Twitter in 2013 would be a “big mistake.”

The most vocal in their outrage were leaders from the small but influential white nationalist movement.

Paul Joseph Watson, an editor at the conspiracy theorist site Infowars, said on Twitter that Trump “was just another deep state/neocon puppet.” He added, “I’m officially OFF the Trump train.”

Richard Spencer, a far-right activist and white nationalist who coined the term “alt-right,” said he condemned the attack and hinted at supporting another presidential candidate in 2020: Representative Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii, a Democrat. Ms. Gabbard met with President Bashar al-Assad of Syria in January and on Thursday criticized the missile strike as shortsighted and reckless.

For some on the far right, particularly those who are pro-Russia, Mr. Trump’s strike crossed a line.

But others praised the president for his quick military decision, which came three days after the Syrian government’s deadly chemical weapons attack on its own people, including children.

The radio host Hugh Hewitt said the missile launch was “justice for these children.” Mark Levin, another conservative host, agreed. “We’re proud of you,” he said of the president.

Laura Ingraham, a conservative commentator, noted that the strike brought together three frequent critics of the president — the Republican senators Marco Rubio of Florida and John McCain of Arizona, as well as his Democratic opponent last fall, Hillary Clinton.

Missiles flying. Rubio's happy. McCain ecstatic. Hillary's on board. A complete policy change in 48 hrs.

— Laura Ingraham (@IngrahamAngle) April 7, 2017
The schism among the president’s far-right supporters had been building since Mr. Trump said his attitude toward Syria had “changed very much” after the chemical weapons attack. His comments signaled a discernible shift in White House policy, and from his stance during the presidential campaign.

Some of those supporters claimed, without evidence, that the chemical weapons attack was a hoax carried out by the “deep state” — what they believe to be a nebulous network of military officials working behind the scenes — to drag the United States into war. Scott Adams, the cartoonist who created Dilbert, wrote on his website on Thursday before the missile strike that the chemical weapons attack was a “manufactured event.”

A few hours before the missile strike, the far-right blogger Mike Cernovich warned his followers in a live video that the United States was going to attack Syria. “Remind Trump who supported him,” he told his viewers. “We got to stop him.


Trump is fukked...
 

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Trumpset not happy

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/us/trump-far-alt-right-syria.html?_r=0

Some of President Trump’s most ardent campaign supporters were among his most vocal opponents on Thursday after he ordered the missile strike against Syria, charging him with breaking his promise to keep the United States out of another conflict in the Middle East.

Prominent writers and bloggers on the far right attacked Mr. Trump. They accused him of turning against his voters by waging an attack that he had for years said would be a terrible idea. They also criticized him for launching the strike without first seeking congressional approval — something he said on Twitter in 2013 would be a “big mistake.”

The most vocal in their outrage were leaders from the small but influential white nationalist movement.

Paul Joseph Watson, an editor at the conspiracy theorist site Infowars, said on Twitter that Trump “was just another deep state/neocon puppet.” He added, “I’m officially OFF the Trump train.”

Richard Spencer, a far-right activist and white nationalist who coined the term “alt-right,” said he condemned the attack and hinted at supporting another presidential candidate in 2020: Representative Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii, a Democrat. Ms. Gabbard met with President Bashar al-Assad of Syria in January and on Thursday criticized the missile strike as shortsighted and reckless.

For some on the far right, particularly those who are pro-Russia, Mr. Trump’s strike crossed a line.

But others praised the president for his quick military decision, which came three days after the Syrian government’s deadly chemical weapons attack on its own people, including children.

The radio host Hugh Hewitt said the missile launch was “justice for these children.” Mark Levin, another conservative host, agreed. “We’re proud of you,” he said of the president.

Laura Ingraham, a conservative commentator, noted that the strike brought together three frequent critics of the president — the Republican senators Marco Rubio of Florida and John McCain of Arizona, as well as his Democratic opponent last fall, Hillary Clinton.

Missiles flying. Rubio's happy. McCain ecstatic. Hillary's on board. A complete policy change in 48 hrs.

— Laura Ingraham (@IngrahamAngle) April 7, 2017
The schism among the president’s far-right supporters had been building since Mr. Trump said his attitude toward Syria had “changed very much” after the chemical weapons attack. His comments signaled a discernible shift in White House policy, and from his stance during the presidential campaign.

Some of those supporters claimed, without evidence, that the chemical weapons attack was a hoax carried out by the “deep state” — what they believe to be a nebulous network of military officials working behind the scenes — to drag the United States into war. Scott Adams, the cartoonist who created Dilbert, wrote on his website on Thursday before the missile strike that the chemical weapons attack was a “manufactured event.”

A few hours before the missile strike, the far-right blogger Mike Cernovich warned his followers in a live video that the United States was going to attack Syria. “Remind Trump who supported him,” he told his viewers. “We got to stop him.
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Didn't I tell y'all that most of those missiles were jammed by Russia?
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You don't even grasp the magnitude of such an action. Fake news until confirmed by reputable sources.
 

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Analysis from the web. Told y'all. Bunch of armchair generals in here who know nothing about EW:
Given the altitude that cruise missiles generally fly at, the S-300 and -400 systems would probably not be able to acquire them at a range that would offer sufficient coverage. This could possibly be circumvented by an advanced distributed radar network, but I don't think the Syrians have that kind of preparation or equipment.

What I personally believe happened (and no of course I can't prove it, this happened last night!) is that given an advance warning of the strike, the Russians were able to prepare and use a so-far unidentified EW guidance jamming system that caused approximately 60% of the missiles (as opposed to an advertised failure rate of 10%) not to reach al-Shayrat and many of the rest to impact harmlessly in empty fields. If you find some of the photos of the Tomahawks that fell short in Latakia, there is a noticeable lack of blast damage - it appears they came down on their own without being shot at.

I am personally very curious about the conclusions that will be reached over the next few days, but from a technical standpoint this action appears to have been entirely ineffective and possibly a first warning of how surprisingly difficult it will be to use advanced US assets against opposition capable of advanced EW.
 

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You don't even grasp the magnitude of such an action. Fake news until confirmed by reputable sources.

I grasp the magnitude. Nothing. America will do nothing. It can't do anything. They lost the strategic game in Syria when Russia landed its forces to support the Assad regime. Guess what. More Russian troops, including anti-aircraft s-300s are coming too. Trump will pout.

Fake news! Fake news! Fake News! Fake news!

Into your memory hole of a brain.

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American impotence, my friends.
 

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Analysis from the web. Told y'all. Bunch of armchair generals in here who know nothing about EW:
You seem to be arguing against ghosts :mjgrin: Almost everyone in this thread said the strikes wont achieve much and are symbolic.

Where's the link for this? FWIW this guy barely seems to believe his argument " What I personally believe happened.." :beli:
 
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