Game of Thrones’ Jon Snow Sequel Series in Development at HBO

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Watching that show was like watching someone smoke a race then trip at the finish line, fall and not even cross it.

Very anti-climatic. That writing team should really have been sued because of how much it was a conscious sabotage. Never seen anything like it.
 

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They gotta repair the huge damage Season 8 did.

So if it ain’t a story about Jon Snow coming back to take the throne it will probably flop :yeshrug:


It has to be a clear soft reboot of season 8 otherwise hard pass.

Facts, if he’s not taking the throne or gunning for it , I’m not interested

Matter of fact; they gotta kill off bran too
 

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HBO must've gotten word that the internet's reaction to S8 ain't matching what people in real life will watch

gotta feeling these new GOW will do numbers (not on the level of the OG) but still good enough
 
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i still dont get what kind of contract those 2 idiots had....i mean, GOT was huge, i dont think any show will ever be this huge.
Why would HBO give up on that? the show still had 2 -3 more seasons easy. Why they didnt just get someone else to replace thse 2?
Now they have to take chances with sequels prequels spinoffs...:snoop:


Here’s the thing.

When it comes to big cultural shifting entertainment spectacles like GOT the goal is almost ALWAYS keep the OG creative team at the helm as long as possible. Weiss & Benioff were the series showrunners. They shepherded the first 6 seasons into behemoth it became. It was also an online and social media sensation with almost everyone involved in the creative process becoming household names. Directors of episodes went on to helm MARVEL movies. Producers went on to become showrunners and Executive Producers themselves. The cast became household names. When you have a winning formula like that the general consensus for the endgame is “trust the show-runners” as their the ones who initially had the vision, wrote the series bible, prepped storylines YEARS ahead of time, and plotted the course of the ultimate conclusion. Replacing Weiss & Benioff at the time would have been like replacing David Simon on The Wire. Replacing Vince Gilligan on Breaking Bad. Replacing David Chase on The Sopranos. It would have been a MASSIVE bad look and outcry from fans & media would have been deafening. Thats why Weiss & Benioff are the ones who get the majority of the blame and not HBO; because people in the business KNEW the power that those two wielded and that they had the network by the balls. HBO basically HAD to trust them unless George R.R. Martin himself made a public stink about it, which he didn’t as he had stepped away from his day to day producing/writing duties on the series back in season 5.

Weiss & Benioff did NOT act in good faith regarding their power over the series. They wanted to rush so they could move onto other projects and instead of utilizing their power to PUBLICLY APPOINT a successor they chose to have the cake & eat it too. Which led to the stinkers of final seasons that we got.
 

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Here’s the thing.

When it comes to big cultural shifting entertainment spectacles like GOT the goal is almost ALWAYS keep the OG creative team at the helm as long as possible. Weiss & Benioff were the series showrunners. They shepherded the first 6 seasons into behemoth it became. It was also an online and social media sensation with almost everyone involved in the creative process becoming household names. Directors of episodes went on to helm MARVEL movies. Producers went on to become showrunners and Executive Producers themselves. The cast became household names. When you have a winning formula like that the general consensus for the endgame is “trust the show-runners” as their the ones who initially had the vision, wrote the series bible, prepped storylines YEARS ahead of time, and plotted the course of the ultimate conclusion. Replacing Weiss & Benioff at the time would have been like replacing David Simon on The Wire. Replacing Vince Gilligan on Breaking Bad. Replacing David Chase on The Sopranos. It would have been a MASSIVE bad look and outcry from fans & media would have been deafening. Thats why Weiss & Benioff are the ones who get the majority of the blame and not HBO; because people in the business KNEW the power that those two wielded and that they had the network by the balls. HBO basically HAD to trust them unless George R.R. Martin himself made a public stink about it, which he didn’t as he had stepped away from his day to day producing/writing duties on the series back in season 5.

Weiss & Benioff did NOT act in good faith regarding their power over the series. They wanted to rush so they could move onto other projects and instead of utilizing their power to PUBLICLY APPOINT a successor they chose to have the cake & eat it too. Which led to the stinkers of final seasons that we got.

This is the best explanation I've seen. In a perfect world David and Dan would have either accepted whatever boatload of cash HBO was clearly willing to give them, or stepped back and allowed one of their acolytes to take over. Bryan Cogman for instance, The show clearly needed another season, or at least ten episodes in the final two seasons instead of the abbreviated shyt we got. End of the day you can't really prepare for the duplicity and bad faith BS David and Dan were on, so why blame HBO. They sabotaged the biggest show on television to chase bags they ultimately never received. The Star Wars trilogy got cancelled, their civil war show got axed, They haven't done shyt since the show ended. Sure they're writing and exec producing an adaption of The Three Body Problem, one of the most successful book series in recent memory, for Netflix. But giving the problems going on at Netflix right now I don't see that as some great gig.

It looks like House Of The Dragon is gonna be incredibly successful, based off the buzz it's already receiving. There's a hunger for more GoT shyt despite the fukk up. Even so it still makes me mad that they handled this so poorly. Not to mention the feeling that there may have been some corporate tampering involved. Disney Plus wasn't out yet, nor was HBO Max...almost feels like Disney poaching their rival's biggest producers wasn't a coincidence right. And to not only get them to fukk up the show, but then say "sorry no thanks" and pull their deal....yea....
 
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and the fact that D&D were saying "we need to go off social media based on how the reactions will be" way before the final stretch of episodes is even more foul - its like they knew they were gonna get the smoke for their bullshyt and just put their hands up and said it is what is :hubie::dahell:
 

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bran should not have been king

they are on westerosi crack to even let that happen
"Bran, you should be king"

"nah I can't"

"Bran why don't you run things"

"nah I'm the 3 eyed raven"

"come on Bran just tell us the future and use your powers for us"

"nah I'm not even Bran no more"

"Hey bran... just one more time... Will you be king?"

"Why do you think I came all this waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay" :skip:





Motherfukking TRASH!!!!
 

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I agree with you about 95%.

I'm okay with certain parts of the ending. They just didn't do nearly enough to explain how they got to the ending. I can see Jamie and Cersei dying together, in fact, I enjoyed seeing Cersei cry like a little hoe realizing she fukked up. But Jamie's decision to go back felt rushed. I can see Tyrion becoming Hand. I can see Bronn becoming a small lord. Not a Master of Coin though :childplease: I can see Sam becoming the Grand Maester. I can see Sansa becoming Lady of Winterfell. Not Queen though. FOH, you staying in the 7 Kingdoms :camby: And I can see Dany going crazy and wrecking sh*t. But they needed alot more time to get there and if they went this route, Jon should have became King.

What Im not cool with at all is Arya killing The Night King. It was wack. I'm not cool with Jon being sent Beyond the Wall. I get that he felt free out there with the Wildings but, he spent years wishing he could go back to his family and to Winterfell and now, he's banished forever from both. Makes no sense. His heritage and big reveal? All for nothing. If Jon wasn't going to become King, then I would have preferred Jon got Winterfell at least and Sansa finding something else to do. Which brings up my last point.....Bran becoming King :childplease: :childplease: :childplease: If anything, HE should have been the one to go with the Wildlings to take Bloodraven's place in the tree or to explore the Lands of Always Winter or whatever. It makes more sense for him to be Beyond the Wall and learning more about the Old Gods. Just like it made more sense for Jon to either become King (and for Sansa to get WF) or for Jon to get Winterfell and Sansa to just say in the North doing something else. Nearly half of the Small Council was connected to Jon in some way yet, he's not there :childplease:
How about the fact Jon is even alive.. Killed the queen in cold blood with NO people of his around the entire city.. And the only black brothers in the world, capture him nicely and turn him over with no scratches in exchange for a boat when they already had the kingdom

Pure nonsense
 
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