Game of Thrones - House of the Dragon Spoilers Thread

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It just occurred to me that it's pretty obvious Rhaenyra's side wins this. She's the only one who knows the prophecy at this point. Since we know Rhaegar knew the prophecy as well, you can easily conclude he descended from her.
 

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It just occurred to me that it's pretty obvious Rhaenyra's side wins this. She's the only one who knows the prophecy at this point. Since we know Rhaegar knew the prophecy as well, you can easily conclude he descended from her.

I mean her side (the blacks) does win…but for those who aren’t familiar with the spoilers who’s to say maybe she doesn’t tell alicent the prophecy in an attempt to let her know it wasn’t about aegon…just playing devil’s advocate
 

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Aemonds heel turn will be Sunday unless they make it seems luce was asking for a fight instead of just trying to get away.
 
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It just occurred to me that it's pretty obvious Rhaenyra's side wins this. She's the only one who knows the prophecy at this point. Since we know Rhaegar knew the prophecy as well, you can easily conclude he descended from her.
I went ahead and spoiled myself because I can’t wait another year for next season. Her side eventually wins, but let’s just say the war takes a big bite out of her.
 

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It just occurred to me that it's pretty obvious Rhaenyra's side wins this. She's the only one who knows the prophecy at this point. Since we know Rhaegar knew the prophecy as well, you can easily conclude he descended from her.
I don't think most viewers would realise that at this point but you're kinda right.
Any nonbookreader who does realise it can't post it anywhere because of they'd be accused of posting a spoiler though :lolbron:
 

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Did that last scene with Rhaenys and her dragon happen in the book? shyt seemed to be random as fukk and would have made more sense if she just flew her ass to dragonstone asap.
No. She was at Driftmark when Viserys passed, and immediately traveled to Dragonstone upon learning the news. Show added it for "action."
 

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No. She was at Driftmark when Viserys passed, and immediately traveled to Dragonstone upon learning the news. Show added it for "action."

And considering the book is second hand info, from people with their own agendas, they can get away with changing things in the show. Even though that would be a big stretch.
 

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It just occurred to me that it's pretty obvious Rhaenyra's side wins this. She's the only one who knows the prophecy at this point. Since we know Rhaegar knew the prophecy as well, you can easily conclude he descended from her.
Technically the Blacks win since Rhaenyra and Daemons sons are the ones who carry on the Targ bloodline

But the cost is great...

Aemonds heel turn will be Sunday unless they make it seems luce was asking for a fight instead of just trying to get away.
Aemonds heel turn was when he stole that dragon...and if not then, when he called his cousins "Strong" boys
 

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It just occurred to me that it's pretty obvious Rhaenyra's side wins this. She's the only one who knows the prophecy at this point. Since we know Rhaegar knew the prophecy as well, you can easily conclude he descended from her.
Book readers still debate who actually "won", and usually conclude any victory was pyrrhic. I believe this is the point GRRM wanted to make.

Yes the Targaryen line continues through Rhaenyra and Daemon, so they "won" the war of bloodlines.

But Aegon II won the war of legitimacy, as he goes down in the history books as the rightful King, and Rhaenyra goes down in the history books as a usurper that attempted to steal her brother's birthright.

Rhaenyra is not listed in the history as one of the rulers of of the Seven Kingdoms despite the fact that she sat on the Iron Throne and ruled Kings Landing for a time. Her short reign on the Iron Throne is considered an illegal occupation in the official records. Also Aegon III is considered Aegon II's heir, instead of his own mother.

They say history is written by the victors, and the history and records says Aegon II won the war of legitimacy over his traitor sister and put an end to her tyranny.

By the time of Game of Thrones, Stannis considers Rhaenyra a usurper that died a traitors death.

The faith says the gods judged Rhaenyra as unfit, the smallfolk remembers her as Maegor with teats, in her own family Targaryen history lore she is remembered as the woman that caused the city to kill off the dragons, and the law says she was a pretender and rebel. This is her victory.

Aegon III and Viserys II both had the opportunity to honor their mother by legitimizing her in the public record, making her Rhaenyra Targaryen I, First of her name, but they never did. In the end, she only succeeded in being the mother of Kings.
 
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She's the only one who knows the prophecy at this point. Since we know Rhaegar knew the prophecy as well,
The consensus theory is that the chain of prophecy from sovereign to heir is broken some time after the Dance. By Aegon V, most think the prophecy has been lost, and Rhaegar only discovers it after reading something later in his life. Maybe he read the dagger and figured it out. It would explain why he becomes a warrior overnight that is obsessed with the prince that was promised after spending the first part of his life as someone that read books and wasn't interested in fighting or battles.
 

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Just read it, where do you think rhae went wrong? Was it set in motion when Hugh and ulf turned on her? Which led to her locking up corlys(did he actually betray her? I couldnt tell) and pushing away daemon and nettles. That damn white worm couldnt stop stirring the pot. I feel like once the lil boy was beheaded she lost the people of kl. I feel she kinda just left dragonstone with no plan on what to do once she got there. She kinda caused the uprising herself with all the taxes and shyt. Which I get she had to do because larys sent all their money away. Idk if she would of been a better ruler in better circumstances

Was smiling like shyt when daemon jumped off his dragon to kill that one eyed demon :blessed:

Hopefully he survived and made off with nettles
 

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It just occurred to me that it's pretty obvious Rhaenyra's side wins this. She's the only one who knows the prophecy at this point. Since we know Rhaegar knew the prophecy as well, you can easily conclude he descended from her.
Rhaegar read it in a book.
 
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