FYI, the whole alpha male thing is a myth made up from erroneous ecological research on wolves

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When people say Alpha/Beta spectrum doesnt exist its a pure denial of reality.

Synonyms can be changed - masculinity, confidence, athleticism etc.

When people refer to Alpha/Beta its in reference to real variables.

People who hate hierarchies are the ones afraid to compete.

fukk up cac.
 

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fukk up cac.

nikka posted a study to show that beta males don't exist

Ironically, that is some of most beta male shyt ever

"Bu Bu Bu BUT RESEARCH SAYS IM NOT BETA :damn:"


Go lift some weights instead of listening to frail unathletic cac researchers :ufdup:
 

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nikka posted a study to show that beta males don't exist

Ironically, that is some of most beta male shyt ever

"Bu Bu Bu BUT RESEARCH SAYS IM NOT BETA :damn:"


Go lift some weights instead of listening to frail unathletic cac researchers :ufdup:
A whole lotta musclebound swole people clock in every day and answer to a boss far physically weaker than they are, so how can they be an alpha when they're not leaders? :jbhmm:
You already fukked up your theory by basically trying to apply animalistic shyt to people mention shyt like weights and boxers. You can be swole as fukk and have hands, but none of that matters if someone has a gun pointed to you so once again, shyt that applies to animals cannot apply to humans because as I said, too many complexities
and variables. People like J. Prince out here walking around looking like they can't do 10 pushups yet got big dudes under their command and scared of em. So....what was your point again?:jbhmm:
 

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I mean yeah there's no strong scientific basis. But they do describe real life phenomena albeit in a very simplistic way.

The terms just seem like corny speak for men that are more "manly" and men that aren't manly (and are instead "soft" and sensitive).

We can't act like there aren't distinct pockets of men. I mean, look at how most older male virgins, incels, etc. All have VERY similar traits: social awkwardness, sensitivity, physical weakness, low self-esteem, shyness, low confidence, timidity, etc.

"Alpha" is usually just shorthand term meant to refer to guys who are "the man", usually very confident, assertive, has leadership qualities, isn't too sensitive, usually strong, and is taken seriously and respected by peers. Think of the most popular dude in your high school.

Obviously it changes by context. :yeshrug:

In short: alpha is a man that meets most markers of masculinity, and is treated and rewarded as such. (He is respected, and gets perks).

A "beta" is someone who doesn't meet those marks, and thus is either disrespected, ignored, or fails to get any perks.


Exactly, I have: social awkwardness, sensitivity, physical weakness, low self-esteem, shyness, low confidence, timidity, etc.
 

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Exactly, I have: social awkwardness, sensitivity, physical weakness, low self-esteem, shyness, low confidence, timidity, etc.

Working on developing a strong sense of humor could be a great starting point for people like yourself imo. I always see you around here posting and sometimes contributing, but try lightening up a little bit also. Your jokes might fall flat at first, but you'll find your footing eventually. A good shoe game is a cheat code too. Find some that work for you and get a few pairs in different colors. Keep them clean when you're out, and put them back in the box when you get home to preserve their condition longer.

Maybe you're just a late bloomer? Fortunately, they make for the best flowers :ufdup:
 

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A whole lotta musclebound swole people clock in every day and answer to a boss far physically weaker than they are, so how can they be an alpha when they're not leaders? :jbhmm:
You already fukked up your theory by basically trying to apply animalistic shyt to people mention shyt like weights and boxers. You can be swole as fukk and have hands, but none of that matters if someone has a gun pointed to you so once again, shyt that applies to animals cannot apply to humans because as I said, too many complexities
and variables. People like J. Prince out here walking around looking like they can't do 10 pushups yet got big dudes under their command and scared of em. So....what was your point again?:jbhmm:

Alpha/Beta is moreso THEORETICAL archetype structure that tries its best to describe real life phenomenon.

Of course it is an oversimplification but that's what archetypes are for in story-telling/communication.

The Alpha/Beta archetypes recur throughout stories humans have told since the dawn of human existence - Zeus, Odin, Horus, Ogun etc

Why are Marvel Superhero movies so popular?
Why does every little boy want to emulate their favourite athlete/superhero?
And why do people gravitate towards "Strong Man" politicians?

It's just a continuation of human being's primal inclination to respect dominance in a hierarchy.

Thanks to modernity you're right. In PRACTICE, within the modern environment, dominance is not always based on physical strength, bravery, confidence etc.

But that doesn't erase the existence of "Alpha/Beta" hierarchies - you just said J Prince looks like a weasel bytch and you're right.

Hierachies exist whether we like them or not. They're inevitable and there are multiple hierachies at play all the time - financial, intelligence, athleticism etc

We can't just deny them cause we don't like them - we should strive to climb them:yeshrug:
 

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@BocaRear is it wrong to want to get and acquire power and wealth? Read this below:


Matthew 4:5-11 ERV

Then the devil led Jesus to the holy city of Jerusalem and put him on a high place at the edge of the Temple area. He said to Jesus, “If you are the Son of God, jump off, because the Scriptures say, ‘God will command his angels to help you, and their hands will catch you, so that you will not hit your foot on a rock.’” Jesus answered, “The Scriptures also say, ‘You must not test the Lord your God.’” Then the devil led Jesus to the top of a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and all the wonderful things in them. The devil said, “If you will bow down and worship me, I will give you all these things.” Jesus said to him, “Get away from me, Satan! The Scriptures say, ‘You must worship the Lord your God. Serve only him!’” So the devil left him. Then some angels came to Jesus and helped him.
 

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Yep. In fact, early human migration and expansion began not due to human desire to conquer others or due to a penchant for violence, but due to humans trying to get away from groups that displayed psychopathic tendencies.

And you are absolutely right about most being laid back and cooperative. People don’t really understand the connection between human greed and the effects it had in human socialization.

In addition to the myths about “alphas”, people also have a gross misunderstanding of “cave men” behavior in early human society as well. Many have this idea of big dudes knocking chicks over the head and carrying them back to the caves, or constantly killing off weaker individuals to gain sexual access to multiple females.

But hunter-gatherer societies were characterized mostly by egalitarian relationships and small close-knot communities.

Human greed is what drives most of the more violent, selfish aspects of human behavior and that became codified much later in human history after the shift to agrarian societies. Hoarding surplus or greed is the beginning of our economic systems (capitalism vs communism), gender imbalance, poverty, war, and current environmental crisis.
You read about the Taino? :wow:

Columbus said they were inferior because they weren’t violent. But they kept their people fed and were economical, lived within means and recycled. :wow:

Columbus said he never seen violence from them
Now we worship people who create scarcity on purpose :wow:
 
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Exactly, I have: social awkwardness, sensitivity, physical weakness, low self-esteem, shyness, low confidence, timidity, etc.

Breh you are already ahead of most people you will ever meet in life because you are self-aware of your flaws and want to make a conscious effort to self-improve.

Many people go through life with cognitive dissonance and just blame others and never acknowledge their flaws.

Personal accountability is the hardest part of the process and you're already there.:wow:

You've got to change your whole psychology breh. You do that by changing your habits.

We are the sum of our actions and habits.


1) Hit the gym and lift weights - once you start seeing results in the gym you will develop more confidence in yourself and everything in total. Once you start seeing the improvements you will impress yourself and be able to visualise the achievement of goals.

2) Always set goals and objectives for yourself - set short term, medium term and long term goals for yourself. Plan your life breh or you will wander around aimlessly looking for the next thing to do without any purpose.

3) PRACTICE SOCIAL INTERACTIONS - Get out of your comfort zone and make friends, join clubs, groups. Social interaction is a SKILL that you get better at just like weight-lifting

4) Eliminate self-doubt, everyone has a niggling voice in their head of self-doubt. Eliminate it. Remove I can't and I won't from your vocabulary.

You have to have a positive attitude at all times - that's the only way you get shyt done

 

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Working on developing a strong sense of humor could be a great starting point for people like yourself imo. I always see you around here posting and sometimes contributing, but try lightening up a little bit also. Your jokes might fall flat at first, but you'll find your footing eventually. A good shoe game is a cheat code too. Find some that work for you and get a few pairs in different colors. Keep them clean when you're out, and put them back in the box when you get home to preserve their condition longer.

Maybe you're just a late bloomer? Fortunately, they make for the best flowers :ufdup:
Eliminating shyness/timidness is paramount. shyts a death sentence if you're a guy. Its terrible feeling. Used to have it.

Take up aggressive hobbies. MMA, karate, etc. Theres a reason why parents make kids take karate classes or play sports. It builds confidence and focus.
 

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@BocaRear is it wrong to want to get and acquire power and wealth? Read this below:


Matthew 4:5-11 ERV

Then the devil led Jesus to the holy city of Jerusalem and put him on a high place at the edge of the Temple area. He said to Jesus, “If you are the Son of God, jump off, because the Scriptures say, ‘God will command his angels to help you, and their hands will catch you, so that you will not hit your foot on a rock.’” Jesus answered, “The Scriptures also say, ‘You must not test the Lord your God.’” Then the devil led Jesus to the top of a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and all the wonderful things in them. The devil said, “If you will bow down and worship me, I will give you all these things.” Jesus said to him, “Get away from me, Satan! The Scriptures say, ‘You must worship the Lord your God. Serve only him!’” So the devil left him. Then some angels came to Jesus and helped him.

Good question breh :obama:

I'm a Muslim and we acknowledge that the bible is the word of God also.

There's a lot of theological debate concerning wealth and power to which I can give you the islamic perspective.

Being wealthy in itself is not a sin - In the Old Testament there were several wealthy kings who were devout and pious men - King Solomon and King David for example were good hearted men.

It is absolutely true, that wealth and power within a dominance hierachy has the ability to corrupt men - that's why a strong adherence to religion is important, it instils a strict value system of principles into human beings which keeps us personally accountable.

The Quran says "O you who have believed, let not your wealth and your children divert you from remembrance of Allah" - Al Munafiqun 63:9.

There's nothing wrong with having money, in fact it is a blessing from God.

There is a problem however with being entirely consumed by money, wealth and power to the point where you forget God and the good principles religion tries to teach us - helping others/charity.

In Islam there is mandatory Charity called Zakat that every Muslim must pay - when you are charitable with your money God blesses you :blessed:

So in short, nothing wrong with chasing wealth and power as long as you do so in an ethical way which is DIFFICULT indeed.
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Good question breh :obama:

I'm a Muslim and we acknowledge that the bible is the word of God also.

There's a lot of theological debate concerning wealth and power to which I can give you the islamic perspective.

Being wealthy in itself is not a sin - In the Old Testament there were several wealthy kings who were devout and pious men - King Solomon and King David for example were good hearted men.

It is absolutely true, that wealth and power within a dominance hierachy has the ability to corrupt men - that's why a strong adherence to religion is important, it instils a strict value system of principles into human beings which keeps us personally accountable.

The Quran says "O you who have believed, let not your wealth and your children divert you from remembrance of Allah" - Al Munafiqun 63:9.

There's nothing wrong with having money, in fact it is a blessing from God.

There is a problem however with being entirely consumed by money, wealth and power to the point where you forget God and the good principles religion tries to teach us - helping others/charity.

In Islam there is mandatory Charity called Zakat that every Muslim must pay - when you are charitable with your money God blesses you :blessed:

So in short, nothing wrong with chasing wealth and power as long as you do so in an ethical way which is DIFFICULT indeed.



Dope breh! What is the Islamic perspective when it comes to sex? Is it ok to have a lot of casual sex and fukk a lot of women??
 

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You read about the Taino? :wow:

Columbus said they were inferior because they weren’t violent. But they kept their people fed and were economical, lived within means and recycled. :wow:

Columbus said he never seen violence from them
Now we worship people who create scarcity :wow:
Goddamn you hit the nail on the head. Europeans marveled at many ancient African societies due to their fairness and sense of justice. There were societies that had architecture built without doors because some civilizations had no fear of being robbed due to everyone’s needs being met. Archaeologists also theorize child abuse rates were low due to how close knit families were. Won’t say it was perfect but even with our modern comforts, we are lacking in a lot of ways.
 
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