FYI, the whole alpha male thing is a myth made up from erroneous ecological research on wolves

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This makes no sense because it takes away the fact that other black men sold us to Arabs and white men.
Also other group have been enslaved.
Why was Africa dominated and colonized by Cacs? As far as other countries that’s the point. Cacs think they are the Alphas of the world in general. Manifest destiny
 
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Why was Africa dominated and colonized by Cacs? As far as other countries that’s the point. Cacs thing they are the Alphas of the world in general. Manifest destiny


Because the Africans that held power allowed it to go on because they got something outta of it.
Dominating a group is what happened to Native Americans.
 

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Yep. In fact, early human migration and expansion began not due to human desire to conquer others or due to a penchant for violence, but due to humans trying to get away from groups that displayed psychopathic tendencies.

And you are absolutely right about most being laid back and cooperative. People don’t really understand the connection between human greed and the effects it had in human socialization.

In addition to the myths about “alphas”, people also have a gross misunderstanding of “cave men” behavior in early human society as well. Many have this idea of big dudes knocking chicks over the head and carrying them back to the caves, or constantly killing off weaker individuals to gain sexual access to multiple females.

But hunter-gatherer societies were characterized mostly by egalitarian relationships and small close-knot communities.

Human greed is what drives most of the more violent, selfish aspects of human behavior and that became codified much later in human history after the shift to agrarian societies. Hoarding surplus or greed is the beginning of our economic systems (capitalism vs communism), gender imbalance, poverty, war, and current environmental crisis.

Have you read "Civilized to Death" by Christopher Ryan?
Anyway, excellent points all around.

Hunter-gatherer societies were the predominate way in which humans organized themselves for most of history. The concept of civilization is a very recent phenomenon in human history. When a baby is born into this world its physiology is designed for a world that existed thousands of years ago. Our minds and bodies were never meant for living in this modern world which is why so many people feel a deep rooted disconnect. We're social beings that have evolved to thrive in close knit and egalitarian communities. Our evolution hasn't caught up with how we presently organize our societies.

What Humanity has become is essentially a very sick and demented version of itself.
 
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if that were the case times have changed now
sociopathic/psychopathic traits run society combined with a bunch of people trying to emulate them because they think that's what they're supposed to do

But you see this isn't sustainable. We're already seeing this with the environmental crisis. We're going against our own nature and its driving us crazy, making us depressed, and destroying the planet.
 

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If we're being honest this whole alpha/beta male thing arose from the decadence of this system of modern day capitalism. The alpha male archetype is really just a cool term for psychopath. And lot of the CEOs and elites we admire so much have psychopathic traits. Our obsession with "alpha" males is the end result of individualism taken to its highest extreme. Societies eventually erode when such types of people rule. It isn't sustainable.

In truth humans, in our natural element are a rather docile, laid back and cooperative species. In many primitive tribes such people with these psychopathic traits were admonished from the group because even they recognize the danger they posed. In some cases they were out right snuffed out with a rock to the back of the head or a spear to the chest.


Yep, American society pushes everything to the extreme and then tries to justify it once we realize it’s not how shyt really is.

Same with materialism. I’m high and can’t explain what I mean by this right now but yeah.


Put an average American “beta male” in a society that is more timid and isn’t so in love with that crazy psychopathic mindset, and you’ll realize the difference :francis: the base nature is like you said, docile and laid back.
 

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Sounds like some beta male babble.
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Seriously though I’ve always found the people talking about they are a alpha male to be sensitive cry babies. There are natural born leaders, and in most settings it has nothing to with physical dominance.
Exactly, but with animals, social hierarchy literally comes down to that and that alone. The strongest lead and get the most mates to carry their bloodline.
....which is exactly why it's fukking stupid to try and apply a social caste based upon wild canine animals to fukking humans. How we behave and interact carries far too many more complexities and variables to even try to apply such simplistic shyt to how we socialize. Folks will run with this bullshyt just because theyre so thirsty to call themselves an "alpha". That alone shows it's bullshyt cuz how in the fukk can everyone be an alpha?:mjlol:
 

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Alpha, beta? Nah we off that now. It's 2021, y'all need to upgrade:troll:


This was actually some real shyt :ehh:

And like others have said, no true alpha needs to tell anyone he’s an alpha.

That’s for dudes who know they ain’t built like that who read some nonsense and/or watched some YT videos that made him believe he can now suddenly become tougher than he really is and after a lot of mental gymnastics brought him to the conclusion he’s an alpha and the men he disagree with are all beta. :unimpressed:

And the idea a beta male wolf is soft is :mjlol:

No one will disrespect a beta male wolf, not even the alpha male. :ufdup:

Far as humans go, yea some do more to exert dominance while others are more passive. But even that doesn’t mean shyt because the most passive dude will eventually become more :demonic: than the so called alphas when he gets tired of getting pushed around.

And dudes who call themselves alpha are usually soft themselves. They only try to assert dominance over those weaker than him while wanting no smoke with someone he sees as alpha. That’s a contradiction in and of itself. :unimpressed:
 

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When people say Alpha/Beta spectrum doesnt exist its a pure denial of reality.

Synonyms can be changed - masculinity, confidence, athleticism etc.

When people refer to Alpha/Beta its in reference to real variables.

People who hate hierarchies are the ones afraid to compete.

nikkas said "no true alpha says they're an alpha" like Muhammed Ali and Floyd Mayweather don't exist :unimpressed:
 
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