French is a Black Language

[Secure Da Bag]

Give me an app
also i have a very strong American accent how do i fix that

I don't have an app. But I'll drop an introductory link

Learn Haitian Creole - YouTube

And I have a strong American accent too. So aside from consuming pounds of croissants and faking an accent. I don't know.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

@Dip An app - Mango Available Languages

Never used it.

 

[BigMan]

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Been reading a bit aboutSenegal and Rwanda

Wolof is actually growing faster than French in Senegal
And English is growing In Rwanda partially because so many refugees from the civil war and genocide were living in anglophone countries

Also, the idea of a Francophone identity is interesting especially the relationship many francophone africans have with France. I do not see that same relationship among Anglophone Africans and Caribbean people with England

 

[mbewane]

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Been reading a bit aboutSenegal and Rwanda

Wolof is actually growing faster than French in Senegal
And English is growing In Rwanda partially because so many refugees from the civil war and genocide were living in anglophone countries

Also, the idea of a Francophone identity is interesting especially the relationship many francophone africans have with France. I do not see that same relationship among Anglophone Africans and Caribbean people with England

Regarding the bolded, I think it goes back to the difference between French and English colonization, but also to the fact that the UK became 2nd fiddle in the anglophone world post WW2 and just didn't have the power to battle with the US soft and real power. So that role was, de facto, taken over by the US, without the complications that come from a colonial past. In the Francophone world, France is still the most powerful country, so naturally people are gonna turn to it. I think that's also one of the reasons why some Anglophone Africnan might appear more "emancipated" than some Francophone Africans, because they don't deal that much with their former colony and it doesn't have the same power to intervene there neither. UK is content for example to tag along in US wars as opposed to intervening itself in former colonies, like France does. I think that plays a huge role in this difference you're talking about.

 

[BigMan]

Regarding the bolded, I think it goes back to the difference between French and English colonization, but also to the fact that the UK became 2nd fiddle in the anglophone world post WW2 and just didn't have the power to battle with the US soft and real power. So that role was, de facto, taken over by the US, without the complications that come from a colonial past. In the Francophone world, France is still the most powerful country, so naturally people are gonna turn to it. I think that's also one of the reasons why some Anglophone Africnan might appear more "emancipated" than some Francophone Africans, because they don't deal that much with their former colony and it doesn't have the same power to intervene there neither. UK is content for example to tag along in US wars as opposed to intervening itself in former colonies, like France does. I think that plays a huge role in this difference you're talking about.

I wonder if there is a similar dynamic with lusophones. AFAIK there is not the same identification with Portugal amongst lusophones but I could be weong

 

[mbewane]

I wonder if there is a similar dynamic with lusophones. AFAIK there is not the same identification with Portugal amongst lusophones but I could be weong

I think it's similar to the UK situation. Portugal lost it's power various decades ago so it holds less attraction to african lusophones. and now Brazil has surpassed them as far as economic power goes. Also the fact that decolonization was fought with some Portuguese on the African side (because said Portuguese were fighting Salazar's dictatorship) might be an added difference with France and the UK. Like why identify with a country, when its own citizens (european portuguese) are fighting against it?

The whole "identification" thing basically comes from power and linguistic proximity. Again, the anglophones appear more "free" because they don't "identify" with the UK, but they identify with the US, due to the same dynamics : power and linguistic proximity. That's why it's funny to me when anglos make fun of francos because they speak french, a "colonial langauge", as if english wasn't a colonial language itself.

 

[BigMan]

I think it's similar to the UK situation. Portugal lost it's power various decades ago so it holds less attraction to african lusophones. and now Brazil has surpassed them as far as economic power goes. Also the fact that decolonization was fought with some Portuguese on the African side (because said Portuguese were fighting Salazar's dictatorship) might be an added difference with France and the UK. Like why identify with a country, when its own citizens (european portuguese) are fighting against it?

The whole "identification" thing basically comes from power and linguistic proximity. Again, the anglophones appear more "free" because they don't "identify" with the UK, but they identify with the US, due to the same dynamics : power and linguistic proximity. That's why it's funny to me when anglos make fun of francos because they speak french, a "colonial langauge", as if english wasn't a colonial language itself.

Idk if anglophones in Africa or the Caribbean identify with the US

 

[mbewane]

Idk if anglophones in Africa or the Caribbean identify with the US

I use "identify" very loosely, as in "influenced" or "follow the news/politics", stuff like that. Soft power basically. Because Francophones don't "identify" per se with France obviously. But they (we) are influenced by it. I don't know if I used it first or you did, but might not actually be the best term here

 

[BigMan]

I use "identify" very loosely, as in "influenced" or "follow the news/politics", stuff like that. Soft power basically. Because Francophones don't "identify" per se with France obviously. But they (we) are influenced by it. I don't know if I used it first or you did, but might not actually be the best term here

I mean identify more literally not influenced

 

[you're NOT "n!ggas"]

Has this video been seen? France is DEFINITELY interested in keeping French on the Continent. I'm not a fan

 

[get these nets]

Regarding the bolded, I think it goes back to the difference between French and English colonization, but also to the fact that the UK became 2nd fiddle in the anglophone world post WW2 and just didn't have the power to battle with the US soft and real power. So that role was, de facto, taken over by the US, without the complications that come from a colonial past. In the Francophone world, France is still the most powerful country, so naturally people are gonna turn to it. I think that's also one of the reasons why some Anglophone Africnan might appear more "emancipated" than some Francophone Africans, because they don't deal that much with their former colony and it doesn't have the same power to intervene there neither. UK is content for example to tag along in US wars as opposed to intervening itself in former colonies, like France does. I think that plays a huge role in this difference you're talking about.

good post

 

[Khermann]

Fr

Has this video been seen? France is DEFINITELY interested in keeping French on the Continent. I'm not a fan

France still have official colonies (island somewhere far in the ocean )
Everybody is trying to get rid of them in Africa lol but it wont be that easy.
Me for example i have french as my native langage cause colonialism alright
Growing up i learnt english right so now i can speak that tongue way less than before

Some of my african friends are doing that too and sometimes now we speak only in english !
The next steps would be i'd say an common african langage for us, the blacks in america, the blacks in islands and the rest of the world, that would dope !

 

[you're NOT "n!ggas"]

Fr

France still have official colonies (island somewhere far in the ocean )
Everybody is trying to get rid of them in Africa lol but it wont be that easy.
Me for example i have french as my native langage cause colonialism alright
Growing up i learnt english right so now i can speak that tongue way less than before

Some of my african friends are doing that too and sometimes now we speak only in english !
The next steps would be i'd say an common african langage for us, the blacks in america, the blacks in islands and the rest of the world, that would dope !

We could have more than one

 

[BigMan]

We could have more than one

English French Swahili

 

[Khermann]

Heheh yes !