Free Kartel...Gaza Mi Still Seh (Official Vybz Kartel Appreciation Thread)

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Am i reading this properly. You on his dikk like that lol?

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we were talking on a level of destruction within a community. Liquor destroys communities in the hood....that's why they make sure there's a gang of liquor stores around projects and shyt like that. We don't see rappers selling vintage wines though...we see them sellin yak & vodka cause that's their market.

Kartel took a phenomena that exists within Jamaica (skin lightening and profited off it). Shyt thing to do but if you look at it, it's the same thing. If either negative phenomena didn't exist beforehand, you wouldn't see them being profited on.
 

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we were talking on a level of destruction within a community. Liquor destroys communities in the hood....that's why they make sure there's a gang of liquor stores around projects and shyt like that. We don't see rappers selling vintage wines though...we see them sellin yak & vodka cause that's their market.

Kartel took a phenomena that exists within Jamaica (skin lightening and profited off it). Shyt thing to do but if you look at it, it's the same thing. If either negative phenomena didn't exist beforehand, you wouldn't see them being profited on.

Alcohol has been with us since forever, alcoholism destroys every community not just black ones.

People can be responsible with alcohol, alcoholism is a chemical problem cake soap on the other hand is a joke, it goes way beyond an addiction, it's self hatred at it's most loathsome and I say fukk whoever want's to promote or use that shyt.

Your in here giving a guy props for bleaching his skin.

How can you take this a man serious that went from this:

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To this:

Vybz-Kartel-81.jpg


Really bredda?

Look at Michael Jackson he was telling folks that it didn't matter if you were black or white.... while turning into a white man.

Only in America can a little black boy grow up to be a rich white man.
 

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Look at Michael Jackson he was telling folks that it didn't matter if you were black or white.... while turning into a white man.

Only in America can a little black boy grow up to be a rich white man.

Can we please leave MJ outta this?

I thought it was proven via his autopsy that he actually had vitiligo
 

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Alcohol has been with us since forever, alcoholism destroys every community not just black ones.

People can be responsible with alcohol, alcoholism is a chemical problem cake soap on the other hand is a joke, it goes way beyond an addiction, it's self hatred at it's most loathsome and I say fukk whoever want's to promote or use that shyt.

Your in here giving a guy props for bleaching his skin.

How can you take this a man serious that went from this:

vybz_042711.jpg


To this:

Vybz-Kartel-81.jpg


Really bredda?

Look at Michael Jackson he was telling folks that it didn't matter if you were black or white.... while turning into a white man.

Only in America can a little black boy grow up to be a rich white man.

You're talking about alcoholism, I'm talking about systematic degeneration of communities by ppl in power. That's two completely different things. Put all the alcohol and guns in the same (low-income) place and watch the (black) community turn on itself.

Secondly, I never gave him props for lightening his skin. I actually think it was a stupid decision for him to make.

Third, he's an entertainer...when you ask if I'm "taking him seriously" I have to ask what you mean by that. I listen to his music...I don't look to him for advice or rely him to make important decisions in my life.

Lastly, I'm an advocate of racial pride. There's nothing wrong with being proud of your ethnic and racial background whatsoever. However, I'm also an advocate in the belief that a person's skin color is unimportant within the grand scheme of things. Would Vybz Kartel be any less black if he tatted over every patch of skin instead of bleaching it to a lighter color? MJ lightened his skin because he was ashamed of his skin patches and cut up his nose because his father verbally abused him about it. Didn't stop him from claiming his blackness at the end of the day. He never claimed to be white or light-skinned.

Are albino black people white or black?

Please note that I'm not advocating for the changing of skin color...I'm just noting that I'm not going to jump to the conclusion that a person who does so hates their race.
 

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You're talking about alcoholism, I'm talking about systematic degeneration of communities by ppl in power. That's two completely different things. Put all the alcohol and guns in the same (low-income) place and watch the (black) community turn on itself.

Secondly, I never gave him props for lightening his skin. I actually think it was a stupid decision for him to make.

Third, he's an entertainer...when you ask if I'm "taking him seriously" I have to ask what you mean by that. I listen to his music...I don't look to him for advice or rely him to make important decisions in my life.

Lastly, I'm an advocate of racial pride. There's nothing wrong with being proud of your ethnic and racial background whatsoever. However, I'm also an advocate in the belief that a person's skin color is unimportant within the grand scheme of things. Would Vybz Kartel be any less black if he tatted over every patch of skin instead of bleaching it to a lighter color? MJ lightened his skin because he was ashamed of his skin patches and cut up his nose because his father verbally abused him about it. Didn't stop him from claiming his blackness at the end of the day. He never claimed to be white or light-skinned.

Are albino black people white or black?

Please note that I'm not advocating for the changing of skin color...I'm just noting that I'm not going to jump to the conclusion that a person who does so hates their race.

@ the bolded I see where your coming from I misunderstood my apologies.

Thing is I'm from over there it's a bit of a touchy subject I might expand on that later.

I also gave all them rappers that wanna sell alcohol the :childplease:

And I understand that guns and alcohol are a detriment to our people that's not something I dispute at all I work with the youth.

Props on the constructed reply.
 

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Can we please leave MJ outta this?

I thought it was proven via his autopsy that he actually had vitiligo

there was photo footage of his skin being affected by vitiligo even before he died. I guess people felt that he should've just left his skin the way it was or colored his skin it's regular color as opposed to matching it when his body became mostly pale.
 
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