"Free College Is a Socialist Takeover"-Betsy DeVos

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If Black people are getting free education, so would every other race and ethnicity in America. So what advantage would they actually have?


The lack of knowledge of basic economics on the Coli is downright alarming :dead::dead::dead:

Just because you can get a free degree doesn't mean you'll be a doctor, lawyer, scientist.

You can take the path you want, aquire your skill and build.

I have a feeling you have no sense of higher education, just talking out your ass
 

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I don't know about you, I'd gladly pay more in taxes so that a black person/family would never have to worry about losing they crib.

Are you gonna put up your own money to pay for the Public Housing for the homeless, or are you looking for someone else to do it?
 

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I don't know about you, I'd gladly pay more in taxes so that a black person/family would never have to worry about losing they crib.


Salute. Not sure I entirely agree with you, but I respect your empathy. Cuz that's partly why this country is in the sad state of affairs it's in. There is very little empathy with one another.

It's evident in everything from the Nate Robinson memes to the average Republican who'd rather see their fellow white Americans go homeless than allocate money from the defense budget towards assisting those in need as a result off this pandemic. We're a nation of consumers and competitors. There is no fellow man.
 

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Because STEM grads have no problem paying off their loans, matter of fact they qualify for most scholarships seeing as they make good grades.

Liberal Arts majors are the ones complaining. They graduate with they trash degree and can only get a job paying $30k/year.
You're loud and wrong.

Everyone has difficulty paying off their student loans - doctors included.

Stop this technocratic fantasy bullshyt.
 

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Students At Most Colleges Don’t Pick ‘Useless’ Majors

The most popular fields of study among students at the most selective schools are the social sciences, with 19 percent of degrees awarded in majors such as political science, economics and sociology. The next two most popular groups of majors are the biological and biomedical sciences and engineering. At less selective schools, the most common fields of study are related to business (the Education Department calls this category “business, management, marketing and related support services”), with 19 percent of degrees awarded in those majors. The next most popular group is “health professions and related programs.”
These numbers run counter to the common stereotype of students majoring in “useless” subjects and complaining when they can’t find jobs. In fact, comparatively few students at less selective schools — the vast majority of U.S. college students and the ones most likely to be pursuing degrees primarily for their career benefits — major in these less practical fields.

Jennie Brand, a sociology professor at UCLA whose research focuses on the impact of and access to higher education, said that attending college is a big financial sacrifice for many lower-income students. “So the actual job payoff becomes more front and center relative to students who have always thought they would go to college,” Brand said. The most common category of majors for students in less selective schools — business, management, marketing and related support services — is a prime example. The median annual earnings for recent business graduates is $37,000, which is slightly higher than the median salary of all majors, according to a 2015 report from Georgetown University’s Center on Education and the Workforce.
And even when they don’t pursue an advanced degree, graduates of elite schools may find that their choice of major matters less in the job market than the name of the school they attended — a Harvard degree can open doors even if it isn’t in a directly relevant field. That may help explain why social sciences is a popular field of study at more selective schools.
STEM jobs tend to be well-paying, but many fields require graduate education to advance, which may make lower-income students reluctant to pursue STEM degrees (nearly 58 percent of biology and life sciences majors go on to earn graduate degrees). Also, Hershbein said, some students at less selective schools may shy away from STEM majors because they haven’t had the preparation they need during high school.
 

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I don't agree with free college. All it does is raise taxes. What they need to do is increase wages and lower tuition costs that way someone can pay for school via a job (like back in the day).
 

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Whats to understand? I'm a business owner, I took home 6 figures this year and I still support higher taxes to provide opportunities to those who weren't lucky enough to have the opportunities I did.

I don't understand America's culture of selfishness.

I got Mine! In neon lights
 

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Misallocation of scholarships and grants are not the issue here.

The issues are: (1) the predatory loan system; (2) the lack of loan forgiveness; (3) incredibly low wages and; (4) the exploitation of faculty and subsequent tuition hikes for private schooling.

All for-profit schools need to be shut down. They siphon off billions, target low-income students, students of color (particularly Black students) and veterans, - saddling them with debt without providing real education. The loan system should not have an interest rate above 2% - period. Wages should have been raised decades ago, but they've floundered in most areas even as productivity has continued to skyrocket - making it harder for living expenses to be covered, let alone debt payments. And yes, tuition is too high, particularly at schools that add useless amenities to their campus. No college needs a wave pool, or amusement park activities - they need to ensure they cover every student's housing and can pay the adjunct and part-time faculty a fair and livable wage.

The US loses billions on tax breaks for billionaires and corporations, and pisses away hundreds of billions more on useless "defense" technology and capital to Israel.

Those are the obvious targets for funding - not "the middle class."

You're parroting some right-wing talking points.
Breh, funding to Israel will never stop. It is what it is. The moment America stops looking out for Israel is the moment the middle east will fall into another Yom Kippur war situation.
 

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He's right though.
 
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