Frederick Douglass Isn't Black

[Gravity]

My heart goes out to women like Halle and Paula. They claim black despite being bi-racial and want their kids to be black, but their attraction to white men is too strong. They were praying their black genes were strong enough.

They only claim black because they have no choice. They both have undoubtedly been reminded that they're black and not white all of their lives. They're the type of biracial c00ns who only use their blackness when it's beneficial. They are trying to breed the blackness out of their bloodline which is they chose white men to procreate with. Don't fall for their bs.

Yeah, it's called "passing".

It's kind of crazy how the black genes get phased out so quickly.

My father is a product of a mixed race mother and father, I assume if he'd a married a white woman, all his kids would pass as well.

Italians and Greeks aren't "passing". It's common knowledge that those people are of mixed racial heritage. That fact is even used against them at times.

 

[emoney]

Who the fukk is "our"?

Light skinned and mixed people ALWAYS got love in the hood I grew up in ( We might joke on each other, but it was all love)

I'm starting to doubt many of yall are actually black.

Let me ask you this

If Black people in America had real power....do you think Bi-Racial/Mixed People would still be loved and embraced within the "Black community"?

 

[Blackout]

Man I'm just going to be honest its almost always something behind it. Its rarely just a person was a "nerd" and they were wack and couldn't get girls. I went to school in two different regions and the same stuff applied. I don't know what "hood" dude entails but the playas did get chicks in school. shyt I and other "nerds" did too but like I said I was "normal" played sports, was on the debate team, av club, and still wasn't looked at differently than others. Too bad you was at the school that was different from what I experienced cause when cats online or IRL talk this I just can't relate even if doing similar things as those people.

It is what it is. I didnt get any chicks until I took the playa route for a bit.

I just played the game back then until I got out of high school. I didnt make the rules.

 

[marcuz]

They only claim black because they have no choice. They both have undoubtedly been reminded that they're black and not white all of their lives. They're the type of biracial c00ns who only use their blackness when it's beneficial. They are trying to breed the blackness out of their bloodline which is they chose white men to procreate with. Don't fall for their bs.
Italians and Greeks aren't "passing". It's common knowledge that those people are of mixed racial heritage. That fact is even used against them at times.

here we go again with calling the biracial folks cooons

 

[Knicksman20]

Im blacker than you.

If you say so

When building a car with a hybrid engine, both Electrical and Combustion engine engineers deserve credit, breh. Why you as a blac person NEED him to relinquish anything else that is part of him and pledge alliengance to youAND ONLY YOU is what i still dont understand.

Like I said nikka; "when I was younger I claimed biracials". Now I take them on an individual basis on how they behave because some identify more with their white side which is fine by me. Maturity & understanding as an adult helped shape my POV & knowing this.

Like they say i guess misery loves company.

Don't even know where you going with this comment

THis is what I have been waiting for from you. I need those examples. I wanna see what YOU think it is like to "behave black"

You obviously have preconceived notions yourself as to what Blackness is or maybe even what I think Blackness is when you know damn well what I'm referring to when I say biracials & some Blacks on some of that . Stop playing games bruh & trying to walk me into whatever the hell your agenda is.

Name the bullsh!t. I want specific examples


1st BOLD - As JUST black

Google his pops & read some of his interviews. His pops grew up through the 40's-50's where Blacks would get lynched still in his home state. Your kids are pretty much a product of you & your environment. As a father myself I understand this fully & Earl Woods failed his son in what we're talking about. Tiger has serious issues

2nd bold - I agree with you and his (perceived) inner-circle (face it me and you dont know if his or Jordan's are any different) but i would like to understand where his father failed him. I dont know much about Tiger's upbringing and im just guessing that you probably dont either but you're drawing conclusions based on what you SEE him do. So if you wanna blame his father let' me hear what YOU know abou tthe b*stard that failed to deliver us this black man we want so badly to be and claim us but doesnt

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Edit** This is the article I read years ago when I knew Earl Woods had issues that he passed on to his son. It's a long read but I suggest you read the whole thing & see where his head is. Especially in regards to his first wife & children

http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/news/story?id=2432057

 

[emoney]

True

But why do people get up and arms when someone, like in the thread about the tennis player, says they dont consider themselves to be either black or white? I understand misery loves company but why do we NEED them to declare themselves black?

So if Joakim Noah was to say he doesnt consider himself to be either black or white how many fools would be in here calling him a c00n/traitor? Why is Tiger Woods so hated in the black community for not exclusively claiming black?

Many won't admit it, but it's hurt. The hurt from being rejected by a bi-racial or mixed race person turns into anger for a lot of Black people. Many of these people are angry because light skin/bi-racial/mixed race people get to escape the effects of being fully Black by simply claiming their other side..whiles many of us are stuck.

 

[Blackout]

True

But why do people get up and arms when someone, like in ththread about the tennis player, says they dont consider themselves to be either black or white? I understand misery loves company but why do we NEED them to declare themselves black?

So f Joakim Noah was to say he doesnt consider himself to be either black or white how many fools would be in here calling him a c00n/traitor? Why is Tiger Woods so hated in the black community for not exclusively claiming black?

This is another reason why we need to stop claiming biracials as black.

Those who are down for the community dont stress being seen as biracial aka half black and will still help out the black community because they themselves chose to embrace their black side more so than their white one.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

I agree with you... the lack of organization is why things don't get accomplished. But understand that determining WHO IS and WHO ISN'T Black is a big part in being organized.

What I disagree with you on is that it's not useless shyt. I would suggest you find out what people think about those issues before getting into discussions about building..because you may discover that it's impossible to build with certain Black people when you truly consider your personal views on those issues.

Breh, I've had these conversations with people in various organizations a million times. There's always something to disagree with. Replace who is really black with arguments and disagreements on whether homosexuals should join, if women should have leadership positions, if capitalism should be destroyed first, if God should be above all, or anything else that take the time, energy, and focus away from the true objective of the organization. I've literally sat down in meetings where we're trying to organize how to feed 6 families for thankgivings and wasted the whole meeting on whether or not patriarchy is a problem in the black community

It's absolutely useless because instead of you finding people who hold your viewpoints and organizing and getting shyt done with them, time is being wasted time on some bullshyt mathematical formula to determine who is black.

Like I've said before, get a group of black men and women together who hold your beliefs on who is really black, and start fixing shyt. Make whatever programs or "benefits" you create exclusively to "real black people" and start to improve the condition of your community.

I don't agree with the Black Hebrew Israelites on so many levels, but I've reached out to them on multiple occasions to do some shyt here in Atlanta. I'm agnostic and don't even believe in a deity, but I've worked with cats in the Muslims and Christians. If the goal is to better our situation, then work with people who want to better our situation. If biracials shouldn't be included, then don't include biracials in your group.

 

[marcuz]

Breh, I've had there conversations with people in various organizations a million times

what organizations doe? my inbox still empty and i'm trying to network

 

[intruder]

You obviously have preconceived notions yourself as to what Blackness is or maybe even what I think Blackness is when you know damn well what I'm referring to when I say biracials & some Blacks on some of that . Stop playing games bruh & trying to walk me into whatever the hell your agenda is.

This is what i hate with some of you frauds

I ask you a question and you refuse to answer it on some "Im not gonna tell you because you know what im talking about" type sh!t. FUKKIN SAY IT

Aint no national/racial secrets or secret weapons being discussed here doggy. Fukkin say it. Give me examples of these "black behaviors". I grew up in a country that is 95% black and yours is less than 20% black. Whats racist to me may not be to you and vice versa. Whats "black behavior" to you may come across as some "american nonsense" to me.

Again, name the examples doggy. Let me hear what it is about their behavior that bothered you so much that you felt were unbecoming of a "black" person

 

[Spatial Paradox]

Can y'all be a bit more specific? How does one become sociologically and/or culturally Black?

Can anyone become socially/culturally Black?

Are Eminem, Machine Gun Kelly, and Iggy Azaliea(sp?) Black? Why or why not?

Based on what the society or culture deem as black. Not if they engage in black culture

I was going to respond, but this is a simple and to the point answer




Really, there's a lot of things that are funny about this topic and the threads around it. Especially the talk about percentages.

So being 75% Black/25% White (3 black grandparents, one white grandparent) makes you black. Let's disregard whether or not those "black" grandparents are even completely black. Sounds simple, clean and logical. Or at least as logical as you can be when it comes to race.

So what happens when the above Black kid has a kid with someone who's biracial, 50% Black/50% White? Their kid is about 62.5% Black and 37.5% White. Is this kid biracial or black?


Even the tone of these threads are kind of funny. I'm seeing all manner of rhetoric about blacks being stupid/mentally enslaved/foolish/desperate/etc. for claiming mixed people. Completely ignoring the fact that black folks weren't the ones who came up with the one drop rule or ended up imposing it on society as a whole. Black Americans didn't "claim" anyone so much as anyone with visible black ancestry were all lumped together.


It's just funny to see blacks (and specifically Black Americans) arguing about racial purity when the "one drop rule" exists because whites in post-Reconstruction era America were obsessed with...racial purity

 

[Gravity]

the whole premise of your argument is that whites DO NOT accept biracials. remember, social construct and such.

Biracial simply means a person of two different races. I've never said that whites don't accept biracials, you're the one who keep saying that dumb shyt. I said that whites don't accept brown skinned people of African descent. The white race being "pure" is a myth that c00ns like to perpetuate in effor of supporting their c00n position that people of mixed heritage can't be black. I've even refuted that stupid line of thinking by referencing people of mixed heritage classified as white like the Italians. Whites are not "pure". You can't even define what it means to be white because the shyt changes to for their agenda. Look at George Zimmerman who is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Whites were quick to point out that Zimmerman was half Hispanic or biracial and not white all while fully embracing him into the white community granting him full protection courtesy of their system of white supremacy. Zimmerman is white regardless of his genetic makeup. That's how race works. You're not intelligent or secure enough to get it tho.

 

[Blackout]

I was going to respond, but this is a simple and to the point answer




Really, there's a lot of things that are funny about this topic and the threads around it. Especially the talk about percentages.

So being 75% Black/25% White (3 black grandparents, one white grandparent) makes you black. Let's disregard whether or not those "black" grandparents are even completely black. Sounds simple, clean and logical. Or at least as logical as you can be when it comes to race.

So what happens when the above Black kid has a kid with someone who's biracial, 50% Black/50% White? Their kid is about 62.5% Black and 37.5% White. Is this kid biracial or black?

Even the tone of these threads are kind of funny. I'm seeing all manner of rhetoric about blacks being stupid/mentally enslaved/foolish/desperate/etc. for claiming mixed people. Completely ignoring the fact that black folks weren't the ones who came up with the one drop rule or ended up imposing it on society as a whole. Black Americans didn't "claim" anyone so much as anyone with visible black ancestry were all lumped together.


It's just funny to see blacks (and specifically Black Americans) arguing about racial purity when the "one drop rule" exists because whites in post-Reconstruction era America were obsessed with...racial purity

I see 62% as black.

As for the underlined many black people believe the one drop rule so its not ignoring who made it, its simply getting black people to stop following the one drop rule.

 

[marcuz]

Biracial simply means a person of two different races. I've never said that whites don't accept biracials, you're the one who keep saying that dumb shyt. The white race being "pure" is a myth that c00ns like to perpetuate in effor of supporting their c00n position that people of mixed heritage can't be black. I've even refuted that stupid line of thinking by referencing people of mixed heritage classified as white like the Italians. Whites are not "pure". You can't even define what it means to be white because the shyt changes to for their agenda. Look at George Zimmerman who is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Whites were quick to point out that Zimmerman was half Hispanic or biracial and not white all while fully embracing him into the white community granting him full protection courtesy of their system of white supremacy. Zimmerman is white regardless of his genetic makeup. That's how race works. You're not intelligent or secure enough to get it tho.

quote one post of me saying the white race is pure and i'll request a lifetime IP ban. when you have to make up bullshyt to get your point across, you know you're off to a bad start

you said whites claim biracials as their own to @Tommy Knocks:

Whites. A lot of whites are in fact biracial and even multiracial.

as @Elle Driver pointed out, its called PASSING. but according to your original point, biracials must be black because whites will never accept them. (because of the social construct of white supremacy) so which it?

 

[TezMilli]

He married a white woman.... He's out

The woman who he went through the struggle with and had kids with was black. In fact they were married for 44 years. He married the white woman when he was 66 years old.