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Fox News Hoped You Wouldn't Notice This - ProjectCOVO.com Global Forum

(I forgot how TLOL went on and on about the other graph in that thread and then shut-up when I showed how it came from a data plotter)

I shut up when I realized you couldn't grasp why that graph was misleading, no matter how many times I explained it. The fact that it came from a data plotter was irrelevant.

In fact...

This:

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And this:

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Are guilty of the same thing.
 

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That is awful and I'm not condoning it at all but don't act like the rest of media pretty much doesn't do the same thing towards the pro liberal side...the media is just shytty but at least fox has opinion guys who are honest in what they believe in
 

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Once again...I cannot understand how people try to bunch MSNBC and CNN in with FOXNews.

Yes. They are both biased. Yes, they all have political agendas based on ratings.

One is CLEARLY misrepresenting facts in a faaaaaaaaarr more extreme manner than the other. It's like calling someone who opens mail from the USPS that isn't theirs (this is a felony) the same as a person who murdered a school bus of children.

No they all do it across the board and to the same extremes. Your just another blind idiot who wants to pick a side.

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You gon act like shyt liek this dont happen? Can you even comprehend the implications of what they did? These guys are pouring fuel on a fire and hoping it explodes into another story. This is far more twisted and disgusting. They are not reporting news, they are creating the story.

Go play somewhere, im busy
 

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I shut up when I realized you couldn't grasp why that graph was misleading, no matter how many times I explained it. The fact that it came from a data plotter was irrelevant.

it's not irrelevant because that's how it comes out the data plotter. you can't manipulate the scale. whatever data it plots, it fits the graph into that same sized rectangle
 
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it's not irrelevant because that's how it comes out the data plotter. you can't manipulate the scale. whatever data it plots, it fits the graph into that same sized rectangle

Haha, what? You can set the range of the x-axis and y-axis on a data plotter. Which is what they did in order to show a super-sharp decrease during Obama, when in reality that is misleading.

If you are defending that graph, but criticizing TUH's graph in this thread (OP), you're being a hypocrite. They are guilty of the same EXACT thing.

here's this year so far

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Pic not loading, but it doesn't matter. Its not the content I took issue with, its the concept of complaining about a misleading graph while supporting a misleading graph.
 

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Could do the same thread on any of the major news networks. They all lie and misrepresent. You just happen to be a lefty so you wanna point it out on fox.


Nothing to see here.

Apparently every other network campaigning for Obama isn't enough.
 

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Once again...I cannot understand how people try to bunch MSNBC and CNN in with FOXNews.

Yes. They are both biased. Yes, they all have political agendas based on ratings.

One is CLEARLY misrepresenting facts in a faaaaaaaaarr more extreme manner than the other. It's like calling someone who opens mail from the USPS that isn't theirs (this is a felony) the same as a person who murdered a school bus of children.

How is Fox News misrepresenting the facts more than CNN or MSNBC?

And for the record that graph didn't misrepresent any facts. They just used a scale you don't like.
 

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Haha, what? You can set the range of the x-axis and y-axis on a data plotter. Which is what they did in order to show a super-sharp decrease during Obama, when in reality that is misleading.

it's not just "a data plotter", it's this specific online Bureau of Labor Statistics data plotter. you can set the range of the x-axis by choosing a time frame, but the graph in question shows uses the whole year for a time frame (the same time frame used in Fox's graph), not some arbitrary time frame. you cannot set the range on the y-axis. it is set by whatever the high and low data points are. I guess you could argue that they could chose certain dates to get certain high and low data points, but again the time frame they uses was all the data from 2011, not some arbitrary time frame (and again, it's the same time frame used by Fox's graph)

my point is that if you graph the unemployment data from 2011 with that data plotter, the graph will look the same no matter what. it's funny that you move the bar to what "they did". don't forget the context of that thread. in that thread the graph Fox used was not just 'misleading' or 'deceptive', it was straight up wrong. it had 8.6 being greater than 8.8, as well as a rather dubious scale being used. that incorrect graph used the Bureau of Labor Statistics for it's source. so naturally the actual graph from the Bureau of Labor Statistics was used for comparison (and obviously no data plotter is going to put 8.6 above 8.8). but don't twist that to say that the graph from the data plotter was something that was created to make Obama look good, when that's how that data plotter will plot that data no matter what

If you are defending that graph, but criticizing TUH's graph in this thread (OP), you're being a hypocrite. They are guilty of the same EXACT thing.

I semi-agree the graph in this thread is the same thing. unlike Fox's graph in my thread, the one here is not 'wrong' in any way. but Fox's graphs are not being churned out by a data plotter than is just concerned with fitting all the data points into a certain space. they obviously take time to make them look a certain way

Pic not loading, but it doesn't matter. Its not the content I took issue with, its the concept of complaining about a misleading graph while supporting a misleading graph.

I figured that might happen. I guess the gif it creates is temporary. last time I had to take a screenshot, crop out the graph, and host it on imgur. I didn't feel like going through all that this time
 

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All these networks are biased. I like MSNBC but even them nikkaz be havin me like :sitdown: at times

I'll say this, fox is more likely to outright lie and distort shyt

Msnbc is more likely to leave key facts out that don't concur with their message
 
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