For whom the Drum rolls: 2013-2014 Detroit Pistons Thread

[pawdalaw]

Trey was a little off at the start, but he pulled it together. You must have missed most nights when he had low turnover ratios, which is something you would want a young PG to have.

Yeah, I missed this game, and I don't get to see Burke play. I just don't want folks to lose focus on how good the Pope is. He's currently shooting a better % than Burke and his defense is stellar.

If I had it to do over, I would have took Burke, KCP is a nice consolation prize. And us landing Siva makes the situation more palatable. Mo should have started Siva at the 1, Could have been a game talked about for Years.

 

[eastside313]

I sat out this one. but Trey had 12 as. and 8 t/o's? And we are still clamoring for him? Jennings 2.0. Only thing in his favor is that they won. Too soon to call it a wrong pick Pope is holding his own while being used like a journeyman.

I bet if u check his stats those the most turnovers he had all season. Jennings does that shyt 3 times a week. Pope ain't doing shyt but avg 5 ppg while Burke and MCW looking like future all stars.

 

[GetSomeMoney]

I watched the game, Trey was ok, he padded stats later on in the game, most of that production came against the second team, he made good passes but getting offense in this league is going to be hard for him, the guard position is going to get even better over the next couple of years, I still dont get all this extra love everyone has for him outside of being from Michigan, this is by far not Joe's biggest mistake, I like KCP still in the long run, he just has a shoot first PG to deal with. Id like to see KCP get 14 shot attemps per game like Burke

 

[eastside313]

I watched the game, Trey was ok, he padded stats later on in the game, most of that production came against the second team, he made good passes but getting offense in this league is going to be hard for him, the guard position is going to get even better over the next couple of years, I still dont get all this extra love everyone has for him outside of being from Michigan, this is by far not Joe's biggest mistake, I like KCP still in the long run, he just has a shoot first PG to deal with. Id like to see KCP get 14 shot attemps per game like Burke

How could you watch that game and not see why people wanted a pg like him. The way he was getting his teammates the ball in scoring position and being a willing passer to promote ball movement even if he wont get a assist. The most telling stat of all is utah is 1-14 without burke and 13-13 with him.

 

[GetSomeMoney]

How could you watch that game and not see why people wanted a pg like him. The way he was getting his teammates the ball in scoring position and being a willing passer to promote ball movement even if he wont get a assist. The most telling stat of all is utah is 1-14 without burke and 13-13 with him.

First off he plays absolutely horrible defense, no one talks about that, second I did mention he made some nice passes, he did a decent job of controlling the game, I focused on his first half because the Pistons gave up once they were down by 10 in the third quarter, I don't focus on that record stuff because this team had talent so the 13-13 record with him has more do with the team just coming together, this is a pretty young team when you factor in their main players so it was going to take some time to gel, he has been a solid PG but I don't see him getting much better if at all again he is an average NBA athlete at best, I just don't see why people act like Trey was such a mistake, MCW was the way bigger mistake if we were to compare the two PGs, but I like KCP, he's a very good defender, he shoots better than Burke, way better athlete and is only going to get better, KCP's shooting percentage has steadily improved while Burke's has kind of hoovered around the same area, if KCP played with a pass first PG who was focused on setting up teammates, he's number would look a lot better. I just think Burke's does a decent job of setting up his teammates but I don't see him getting much better than he is now, he has to settle for jumpers a lot because he's not quick enough at the NBA level to get by defenders, he depends a lot on screens to help manufacture points, he is just solid PG that doesn't make many mistakes, he is a middle of the pack PG at best, I just was not THAT impressed, he's ok.

 

[pawdalaw]

I bet if u check his stats those the most turnovers he had all season. Jennings does that shyt 3 times a week. Pope ain't doing shyt but avg 5 ppg while Burke and MCW looking like future all stars.

Trey has a 5/2 ratio, Popes overall TS % has risen on a consistent basis since the start of the season.

For Dec. He shot 41% and 38% from three. For January He is shooting 53% and 41% from 3. His offensive game has consistently improved all the while He has been the teams best defender. And please post the 3 games where Bj has had 8 T/0 within one week. I doubt if You can find one game this season where he has had 8. I like both MCW and Burke but KCP aint no slouch either.

* edit. Well said @getMoney$ beat me to the punch.

 

[dh86]

I watched the game, Trey was ok, he padded stats later on in the game, most of that production came against the second team, he made good passes but getting offense in this league is going to be hard for him, the guard position is going to get even better over the next couple of years, I still dont get all this extra love everyone has for him outside of being from Michigan, this is by far not Joe's biggest mistake, I like KCP still in the long run, he just has a shoot first PG to deal with. Id like to see KCP get 14 shot attemps per game like Burke

You gotta be brain dead to believe people just wanted Trey Burke because he went to Michigan. Joes first draft pick was Mateen Cleaves and he was clowned immediately. Mateen couldn't play. Trey has special basketball qualities so prevalent anyone can see it. Trey had 18 pts and 8 ast in the 2nd and 3rd qtrs alone, your "garbage time" bs doesn't fly here. It's treys fault Cheeks benched starters early? Utah was up big because of Trey Burkes dominance. It was the cause, not a symptom.

 

[GetSomeMoney]

You gotta be brain dead to believe people just wanted Trey Burke because he went to Michigan. Joes first draft pick was Mateen Cleaves and he was clowned immediately. Mateen couldn't play. Trey has special basketball qualities so prevalent anyone can see it. Trey had 18 pts and 8 ast in the 2nd and 3rd qtrs alone, your "garbage time" bs doesn't fly here. It's treys fault Cheeks benched starters early? Utah was up big because of Trey Burkes dominance. It was the cause, not a symptom.

Forget the first quarter now?, 7 and 6 in the first half, Utah was up by 12 three minutes into the third quarter, reserves started to come into the game in the third, Utah was the cause, not Burke

 

[eastside313]

First off he plays absolutely horrible defense, no one talks about that, second I did mention he made some nice passes, he did a decent job of controlling the game, I focused on his first half because the Pistons gave up once they were down by 10 in the third quarter, I don't focus on that record stuff because this team had talent so the 13-13 record with him has more do with the team just coming together, this is a pretty young team when you factor in their main players so it was going to take some time to gel, he has been a solid PG but I don't see him getting much better if at all again he is an average NBA athlete at best, I just don't see why people act like Trey was such a mistake, MCW was the way bigger mistake if we were to compare the two PGs, but I like KCP, he's a very good defender, he shoots better than Burke, way better athlete and is only going to get better, KCP's shooting percentage has steadily improved while Burke's has kind of hoovered around the same area, if KCP played with a pass first PG who was focused on setting up teammates, he's number would look a lot better. I just think Burke's does a decent job of setting up his teammates but I don't see him getting much better than he is now, he has to settle for jumpers a lot because he's not quick enough at the NBA level to get by defenders, he depends a lot on screens to help manufacture points, he is just solid PG that doesn't make many mistakes, he is a middle of the pack PG at best, I just was not THAT impressed, he's ok.

Lol kcp is only gonna get better but trey won't. He settles for jumpers because teams play him to take the jumpshot and when the pg makes the correct pass his jumpshot should be open. He's not quick enough lol then why don't teams just crowd his jumpshot then since he's too slow to go to the rack and too short to finish right.

Trey is already a better playmaker than most if these score first point guards that everybody seems to love these days and he damn sure takes care of the ball better.


Burke was controlling the game yesterday in the first half without scoring big. His passing is what led to the ball movement, which led to the open jumpers.

MCW started with a bang but his jumpers is


Burke is a bad defender but he can get better as will his passing and decision and it's already

 

[NormanConnors]

I sat out this one. but Trey had 12 as. and 8 t/o's? And we are still clamoring for him? Jennings 2.0. Only thing in his favor is that they won. Too soon to call it a wrong pick Pope is holding his own while being used like a journeyman.

that's what I was saying when I said breh almost had a triple double because of those 's.

with that said, Burk will be alright in the league though as long as that J is working, he's crafty and he doesn't look as small as I thought he would.


I def agree Pope is being used all types of wrong

 

[NormanConnors]

Utah was up big because of Trey Burkes dominance. It was the cause, not a symptom.

Detroit's offensive sets were terrible breh, they pretty much handed Utah the game.

 

[NormanConnors]

Burke is a bad defender but he can get better as will his passing and decision and it's already

same was said about Jennings, Iverson and etc

his defense will improve when Monroe's does

 

[MercuryHayes]

Biggest x factor between Burke/Jennings/Knight/MCW(the only 4 realistic options at pg last summer) is Burke has the heart of a champion.

Jennings out here LEARNING to be a leader and passing point guard, Burke already has that in him.

I like Jennings thats my guy blah blah, but I ride for him mostly because hes the pg of my team and he has potential. i like KCP and understand the pick, but his attributes are found in a lot of 2nd tier nba players, you could get in a trade.

Burke/Knight could have NEVER happened though.

I'd also venture to assume Burke tries harder on D than BJ

 

[Captain Crunch]

Ya'll need to get together. My bum ass team needs to be in the lottery.

You have the Nets pick breh

 

[#1 pick]

You have the Nets pick breh

Their winning and in the playoffs right now. Been whooping our ass as well.