For whom the Drum rolls: 2013-2014 Detroit Pistons Thread

djthegreat88

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Team has a lot of problem but jennings is pretty low on my list. He has a decent contract and significantly better than brandon knight ever was. Problem continues to be smith/monroe playing out of position and having no outside shooting. Teams have learned to pack the paint and with no shooters the paint dominance that was there earlier in the season is gone. Kcp has seemed to have lost his aggressiveness the last few games. Singler is our best 3pt shooter but he is very mediocre shooter overall. And monroe cannot get bullied by melo on the boards at the end of game situation
 

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Majority of championship teams are led by a high shooting pt. guards. I went over this pages ago. (see Parker and Isaih)You're exagerating. I praise BJ's assist rate because his t/o ratio is still decent. Th e majority of this team shoots below 40%. We have bigger fish to fry then Jennings. Congrats on Your tenure. Go at the fukkin trolls instead of me. We have a common goal... And You aint repped shyt in this thread.
:comeon:

So tony Parker is the only one since zeke who is one of the greatest of all time. My point exactly
 

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The whole team stagnates in the 4th. Thats not solely on BJ. The opp. steps up their D. and our guys stop moving.
Teams constantly tap him aggressively in the 4th, and instead of getting rid of the ball he stays holding onto it and taking forever to get free. Next thing you know it's 5 secs on the clock and he or Josh are jacking up a terrible shot. He doesn't have the savvy of Billups, who always managed to draw a foul on the hedging big whenever he felt the slightest contact, plus Chauncey was a lot stronger with the ball. Jennings too focused on getting assist, which leads to him holding the ball too long and killing ball movement, instead of running the offense. Yeah, everybody csn have some of the blame, but the pg is responsible for getting players where they need to be, so he gets the bulk of that blame.
 

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Majority of championship teams are led by a high shooting pt. guards. I went over this pages ago. (see Parker and Isaih)You're exagerating. I praise BJ's assist rate because his t/o ratio is still decent. Th e majority of this team shoots below 40%. We have bigger fish to fry then Jennings. Congrats on Your tenure. Go at the fukkin trolls instead of me. We have a common goal... And You aint repped shyt in this thread.
:mindblown: :wtf: :what:

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Who else do You need? How many teams won rings since Isaiah? And what role did their pG play?
Rockets, Bulls, Spurs, Lakers, Heat, Mavs.

Their PGs - Kenny Smith & Sam I Am, B.J. Armstrong & Ron Harper, Avery Johnson then Tony Parker for the Spurs, Ron Harper & Derek Fisher for the Lakers, Jason Williams, a washed up Gary Payton & Mario Chalmers for the Heat, a washed up Jason Kidd for the Mavs.

You have no point whatsoever. :dead:
 

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Rockets, Bulls, Spurs, Lakers, Heat, Mavs.

Their PGs - Kenny Smith & Sam I Am, B.J. Armstrong & Ron Harper, Avery Johnson then Tony Parker for the Spurs, Ron Harper & Derek Fisher for the Lakers, Jason Williams, a washed up Gary Payton & Mario Chalmers for the Heat, a washed up Jason Kidd for the Mavs.

You have no point whatsoever. :dead:
Bottom line, Point guard needed to be a threat. Which one of the PG's couldn't or wouldn;t shoot?
 

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Bottom line, Point guard needed to be a threat. Which one of the PG's couldn't or wouldn;t shoot?

All of those pg had good shooting percentages so when they shot, the ball went in the hoop. Jennings shoots under 40% for his career. No player shooting 39% and on pace for 250-300 turnovers is a good player.
 

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So Brandon Jennings put out a tweet last night saying he was no longer a scoring guard and will be a pass first player. :mjlol:


If the pistons lose these next 2 games dumars should be :camby:
 

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still :snoop: at this terrible play, Cheeks should be fired for that alone. I would have rather had Jennings pull up off of a PNR or give it to Monroe for a 1on1 matchup on the block instead of Smith not taking advantage of a smaller player. SMH at the lineup on the floor at the time. The last two coaching hires weren't even on Joe, all ownership.
 

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Josh Smith's airball wasn't on purpose, but the play that led to it was.

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By now you may have heard that the Pistons had a chance to win on Tuesday night against the Knicks in the Garden. You also may have heard that Josh Smith airballed (a long two) his team's chances away in the final seconds.

You may not have heard that the Pistons ran the play that Maurice Cheeks drew up.

Via David Mayo of MLive.com:

Cheeks chose to save a 20-second timeout before Smith's final shot. He said he already had the play called and wanted to save the timeout for a subsequent possession change in case the Pistons didn't score.

There was no subsequent possession change because the Pistons -- who outrebounded the Knicks 54-38 -- couldn't get a defensive rebound of a missed free throw.

Regardless, Cheeks said the play he wanted was run, even if he might have wanted a different shot.

"I had a play in mind and they ran the play that I had in mind," Cheeks said. "I would have
liked to have seen him drive it. He didn't drive it. I trust the shot that he took, it didn't go in, and we live with it."
One the one hand, Cheeks is talking to the press immediately after it was obvious that Josh Smith made a terrible play, and I don't fault him for defending his player. In fact, I think he should defend his players.

On the other hand, Cheeks didn't just defend his player - he stated explicitly that he trusted Josh Smith's long-range jumpshot, the very same jumpshot that goes in less than 30% of the time, and worse, he trusted that jumpshot with the game quite literally on the line.

That is the definition of terrible coaching.

It illustrates several horrifying realities. First, Cheeks has no idea how poorly Josh Smith shoots the ball from that distance. Or, it means he knows but still thinks that's a good shot, especially in crunch time. Second, it illustrates terrible clock and game management. You were saving that timeout for... what exactly? Third, it illustrates yet again that Cheeks is
committed to Josh Smith as the guy for the Pistons. You have a timeout available, and you have better offensive options at your disposal - almost any other shot from any other player is a better option than that - but you ride it it with the worst of the available options.

And that last point is a whole lot scarier than Josh Smith's jumpshot. This is the way the Pistons play on purpose. Cheeks wants Josh Smith with the ball in his hands when the game is on the line, and he trusts the result.

I miss John Kuester and Lawrence Frank.

Hat tip to andyfochtman in the comments.
 
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