We leaderless, tho. Monroe prolly gonna get packaged up by the offseason for someoneSo how long nikkas gone keep kicking that "avoid the tank" rhetoric
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What can I say - I'm competitive.So why do
Then why post smilies when they lose? Like I said earlier, I hope Your internet persona doesn't translate to real life. If so...
Plus it's all the more fun that you still believe this team has a future with Jennings and Smith leading the way.
pawdalaw
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Jennings and Smith are not the leaders of this team. You can't possibly be competitive when You "follow players and not teams" thats a safe way of saying that You are a bandwagon ass cat. The future of this team is very Bright with Dre and the expirings of Stuck and CV. No one here or within the organization has called this team a finished product. You might be a happier person if You focus Your attention on pulling for a team and them reaching Your expectations, as opposed to rooting for teams to fail. and seeking validation in that way.Win or lose I'm a Piston fan and nothing You can say can get in the way of that. And oh yeah, If Horford scoring more points than Dre makes him better. Then You are probably the type that thinks a franchise should be built around Carmelo.What can I say - I'm competitive.
Plus it's all the more fun that you still believe this team has a future with Jennings and Smith leading the way.
They're the leaders. No matter how many times you say that they aren't will refute the fact.
They're #1 and #2 for:
Minutes played
Field goal attempts
Three point attempts
Usage rates
Average points
Assists
I think it's pretty much safe to say they're the leaders.
This doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Like none. I'm competitive in everything I do. And no I don't jump on bandwagons.
It's not. Prior to signing Smith/Jennings, I would agree with you. But at this point the future for y'all is looking dim, until you can move on from those two players. Or at the very least one of them. And it's certainly not looking bright when there's the high possibility than Monroe could be gone at the end of the season.
You either have bad reading comprehension or you're slow. Or both. I WANT yall team to be good, I WANT every single team in the league to be good. Better viewing experience for me. I wouldn't wish Jennings and Smith on my worst enemy's team. This is the point I've been trying to portray to you since the start - you can't seriously build for the future with the way your team's currently constructed or properly develop the pieces you've drafted (Dre, Moose and KCP).
I ain't tryna hear all that. I'm not trying to take your privileges away as a fan. I'm trying to make you see reality. That's all.
at the way your brain thinks.
pawdalaw
Superstar
They're the leaders. No matter how many times you say that they aren't will refute the fact.
They're #1 and #2 for:
Minutes played
Field goal attempts
Three point attempts
Usage rates
Average points
Assists
I think it's pretty much safe to say they're the leaders.
This doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Like none. I'm competitive in everything I do. And no I don't jump on bandwagons.
It's not. Prior to signing Smith/Jennings, I would agree with you. But at this point the future for y'all is looking dim, until you can move on from those two players. Or at the very least one of them. And it's certainly not looking bright when there's high possibility than Monroe could be gone at the end of the season.
You either having bad reading comprehension or you're slow. Or both. I WANT yall team to be good, I WANT every single team in the league to be good. Better viewing experience for me. I wouldn't wish Jennings and Smith on my worst enemy's team. This is the point I've been trying to portray to you since the start - you can't seriously build for the future with the way your team's currently constructed or properly develop the pieces you've drafted (Dre, Moose and KCP).
I ain't tryna hear all that. I'm not trying to take your privileges away as a fan. I'm trying to make you see reality. That's all.
1. Dre is the only untouchable on this team. that means this is his team. there is nothing You can provide to dispute that. But even still. Jennings shooting 40%overall 36% from 3, 8 ast. and 77% from the line makes him a top 10 point guard. Smith, I will give You that one. but he is definitely not a lost cause. He can fill a stat sheet on any given night. And if he was used to his strengths he would be that much better.
2.You are not competitive when You take the safe way out and don't declare a team. We all can pick individual players and say we root for certain guys and declare that we are right because those guys we root for meet career expectations. Basketball is a team sport.
3. Detroit's Future is not dim when most of our players are either rookies or signed to very moveable contracts. Can't be dim when we have 17 million coming off of the books this year and the luxury tax is about to kick in. I'd say we are sitting pretty. With the exception of Smith Our team is one of the Youngest in the league and our contracts are the most serviceable.
4. My reading skills are pretty decent. So I don't know where we keep butting heads.Dre, Moose and KCP are very poor examples for You to use. Moose is one of the better big Men in the league that has put up consistent #s throughout his career, Notice there is no drop off this season. Dre is a Beast that is developing into quite possibly the best Center in the league since Shaq, Notice the consistency in his #'s this Year and the better usage rate than Horford. KCP has been lauded and praised on a national level for his stellar defense. If all he ever does is become a top notch defender. then mission accomplished. The #s suggest that this is the case. And he will be fine.
5.You're not trying to hear what I say? That's laughable.You speak about Your desire to be right and prove others wrong. Yet You are unwilling or unable to see the situation for what it is. We, have one of the Youngest teams in the league. We will be well under the salary cap this Year, We have one of the best players in the league. We have had one of the highest turnovers in the league roster wise from last season to this one. The team is packed with talent. Almost every player on the roster has been coveted by another franchise, almost every player on the roster has a very serviceable contract. Smith is the sole exception.
6.We have an Owner that has declared publicly that he is not afraid to spend Money. We have a Hall Of Fame GM, We have a few hall of fame players on our coaching staff.All of whom won championships. You'd be hard pressed to find a franchise with so much flexibility, BBIQ, $ to spend, and pieces to build around.
NormanConnors
Detroit/MSU Spartan Life
Dre and Greg only averaging 9 and 11 shots a game.
pawdalaw
Superstar
That contributes to their usage rate. That is why they are such efficient players. neither of them are willing leaders at this point. and neither (Greg specifically) wants the ball during crunchtime. They are both young and need to get more notches in their belt before they can be relied more heavily upon. Greg sometimes looks like a deer in the headlights in the clutch. And we know Dre's woes. Not a perfect team. But certainly not the doom and gloom our buddy Gil would like You to believe.
NormanConnors
Detroit/MSU Spartan Life
i see that at times, but also those dudes need to get the rock early and consistently to get/stay in a flow, i've seen quite a few games where both (mainly Greg) would get involved early, then not get a touch until late in the game, by that time it's
. It's like getting out of a pool of warm water only to get back in and find out it's cold/body needs to readjust to temperature.
djthegreat88
Superstar
Monroe just ain't that good. He has not improved since his 2nd year. His mid range j hasn't improved and he is not finishing efficiently around the rim this year. Defensively he is a liability.
Jennings and Smith are the leaders of yall team. All this beat around talk is irrelevant. Seriously what is wrong with you? I'm sure every Pistons fan can see that they are - why are you having a hard time differentiating between the leader of a team and a building block for the future?
Jennings isn't a top 10 PG -
Curry
Westrook
Wall
Paul
D-Will
Kemba
Parker
Irving
Teague
Lawson
Conley
And you probably could add Bledsoe to the list as well.
I grew up in New York, is it any surprise that I don't support a team?
And
at the bolded.You're not sitting pretty. You're in a bad spot, because Smith and Jennings are still on your team, there's still the possibility that Moose leaves and or any of your other younger players in order to keep those two on your team. You can't really build a proper contending team until they're off it. It's as simple as that.
WHAT THE fukk are you talking about here? Poor examples of what? I said YOUR team should be developing these players. ONCE AGAIN.... YOUR READING COMPREHENSION IS GARBAGE.
All these touches that Smith/Jennings take up could be used to better benefit your frontcourt. And stop comparing Dre to Horford, he isn't close to be the player he is.
No that is you. You're naive beyond any measurable reason. And you don't have one of the best players in the league. The rest of that shyt is pretty-picture bullshyt that could be dressed up for any other team in the league.
I'm betting you don't know how any other franchise operates. A HOF GM - so what? A few HOF players on the coaching staff - so what? You're acting like this some is some anomaly or your team is special because they've got some HOF players as coaches. Do you honestly think you're the only team in the league that has a 'special' GM or 'special' players on your coaching staff?
You're telling the story, what other franchsies do you have more flexibility, money to spend and pieces to build around?
BBIQ? The BBIQ of your team is pretty much near the bottom in the league.
I don't know why they're waiting to move Monroe. I assume whatever team traded for him would keep his rights and he'd still be a RFA.
Denver seems like the perfect trade partner. They could bring Chandler back to Michigan and probably get Faried or Hickson along with him, which would flesh out their bench.
Denver seems like the perfect trade partner. They could bring Chandler back to Michigan and probably get Faried or Hickson along with him, which would flesh out their bench.
pawdalaw
Superstar
Jennings and Smith are the leaders of yall team. All this beat around talk is irrelevant. Seriously what is wrong with you? I'm sure every Pistons fan can see that they are - why are you having a hard time differentiating between the leader of a team and a building block for the future?
Jennings isn't a top 10 PG -
Curry
Westrook
Wall
Paul
D-Will
Kemba
Parker
Irving
Teague
Lawson
Conley
And you probably could add Bledsoe to the list as well.
I grew up in New York, is it any surprise that I don't support a team?
And
You're not sitting pretty. You're in a bad spot, because Smith and Jennings are still on your team, there's still the possibility that Moose leaves and or any of your other younger players in order to keep those two on your team. You can't really build a proper contending team until they're off it. It's as simple as that.
WHAT THE fukk are you talking about here? Poor examples of what? I said YOUR team should be developing these players. ONCE AGAIN.... YOUR READING COMPREHENSION IS GARBAGE.
All these touches that Smith/Jennings take up could be used to better benefit your frontcourt. And stop comparing Dre to Horford, he isn't close to be the player he is.
No that is you. You're naive beyond any measurable reason. And you don't have one of the best players in the league.So Dre isn't one of the best players in the league? end discussion.The rest of that shyt is pretty-picture bullshyt that could be dressed up for any other team in the league. So any team in the league is almost 20 mill under the cap this year and has an average age of 23?
I wouldn't support a team if I grew up in NY either. but real still recognizes real. Jennings at 8 Mill per. please tell me how that is bad. even with Smith on the team we are still 17 mill. under the cap. So how is that not sitting in a good spot? Dre Moose and Kcp have all produced well this Year. So how are they not being developed? if My reading comprehension is garbage what do You call your mode of expressing Yourself? So far You have been put on ignore by several posters. You have been called a Ho ass nikka and worse. What exactly is Your point? sum it up for me. Sum it up for us, because You are spinning Your tires.
I'm betting you don't know how any other franchise operates. A HOF GM - so what? A few HOF players on the coaching staff - so what? You're acting like this some is some anomaly or your team is special because they've got some HOF players as coaches. Do you honestly think you're the only team in the league that has a 'special' GM or 'special' players on your coaching staff?
I Don't think I'm the only team with that. but when it comes to teams that have won rings we are a minority.
You're telling the story, what other franchsies do you have more flexibility, money to spend and pieces to build around?
Nikka use the same source of metrics that you used for all of the PGs that You listed and tell me Jennings isn't top 10. I'll wait. And by the way, I aint seen You use that source until I exposed You to It. step Your game up.
BBIQ? The BBIQ of your team is pretty much near the bottom in the league.
But somehow we are near the top in points scored, rebounds, steals and road record. have a seat Nikka.
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we didnt even get a moral victory tonight yall
yeah on real gm ( yeah i know
) i always point out how horrible he is with the ball below his chest. he turns it over a ridiculous amount in the post when he brings the ball down. at first i thought he was getting hacked but no it happens over 50% of the time he gets the ball slapped out his hands for a turnover. he has great post moves but cant ever finish and complains about the call like he is a top 3 PF who should be getting all the calls. thats what makes it frustrating, because the skill set is there he just cant finish consistently and go up strong. and i thought he was going to develop his J but it hasnt developed but actually regressed.
defense has always been bad so i wouldnt be opposed to getting what we can for him. he probably will go somewhere and be a 18 and 10 guy or 19 and 9 or something but if he doesnt figure out his J and continues to go up soft in the post he will never be worth the money he will be commanding