For whom the Drum rolls: 2013-2014 Detroit Pistons Thread

[pawdalaw]

I'm a humble nikka, So I'm willing to anounce that I gave @Gil Scott-Heroin some rep. this season was Shyt, Hope we get a good player in the draft.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I'm a humble nikka, So I'm willing to anounce that I gave @Gil Scott-Heroin some rep. this season was Shyt, Hope we get a good player in the draft.

 

[Knights89]

I once made pro Monroe comments in this thread

Sorry, brehs, I will never make an official thread again

 

[pawdalaw]

at least we're locked in at the 8th position.

 

[eastside313]

• DETROIT PISTONS NEWS

Report: Dumars to stay with Pistons as adviser, GM succession plan taking shape

By Sean_Corp  @sean_corp on Apr 13 2014, 6:46p +

Rick Osentoski-USA TODAY Sports

Ken Catanella and George David to run basketball operations while team conducts GM search.

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Vincent Ellis of the Detroit Free Press dropped a minor bombshell Sunday, with a report about how the Detroit Pistons plan to remake their front office and eventually their team.

Ellis reports that longtime President of Basketball Operations Joe Dumars is out. But not really. Dumars is set to stay within the organization as an executive adviser but not retain his basketball decisionmaking authority.

This contradicts a report from April 8 from Vincent Goodwill of the Detroit News that indicated that Dumars was on his way out of the organization, possibly within a week.

Ellis also is reporting that while Dumars stays within the only organization he has ever known, basketball operations will be run by George David and Ken Cantanella through the NBA Draftand free agency period while ownership looks for a long-term replacement for Dumars.

The NBA Draft is scheduled for June 26 while the free agency period begins in early July.

David has been with the organization for more than 15 years and currently serves as the assistant general manager. Cantanella, meanwhile, joined the organization in 2011 and serves as the team's salary cap specialist and heads the team's analytics efforts.

While the move to replace Dumars has been expected since owner Tom Gores fired Maurice Cheeks in February, it's interesting that the team is already getting out front and saying they are prepared to conduct a search up to and including the NBA free agency period.

The assumption had been that the team would act fast to hire a new GM shortly after the season and using the last couple months of the season to put together a roster of candidates.

If the team doesn't hire a permanent replacement before the draft and free agency, it would mean the team would be less likely to make any significant moves -- trading Josh Smith or Brandon Jennings, or moving on from Greg Monroe. If anything, the Pistons will probably be more likely to re-sign Monroe and let the new GM worry about whether to keep him or trade him going forward.

Goodwill is also reporting that Dumars will be free to look for a position in another organization if he wants. It has been reported that Michigan native and Cleveland Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert is interested in hiring Dumars to fill his vacant GM position.

Fukk that. They should already have their list of candidates and ready to start interviewing. But I forgot gores is horrible.

 

[Eza]

Gores is such a bum.....

 

[Broad Street Bully]

 

[manyfaces]

• DETROIT PISTONS NEWS

Report: Dumars to stay with Pistons as adviser, GM succession plan taking shape

Fukk that. They should already have their list of candidates and ready to start interviewing. But I forgot gores is horrible.

Dude bought a team with no kind of plan or vision on what he wanted to do with it. I hate owners who aren't passionate about their team. I just think of what could have been if illitch was able to buy the team. But even that scenario isn't perfect cause he ain't got much time either, and Who knows how whoever inherits the team would run shyt.

 

[MercuryHayes]

• DETROIT PISTONS NEWS

Report: Dumars to stay with Pistons as adviser, GM succession plan taking shape

Fukk that. They should already have their list of candidates and ready to start interviewing. But I forgot gores is horrible.

Im sure they cant interview someone until the seasons over.

 

[eastside313]

Mitch Albom: Remember Joe Dumars for his best, not this Detroit Pistons mess
Joe Dumars, I’m told, might step down this week. There should be applause. Not the cynical applause of critics who think Dumars is why the Pistons have sunk in recent years. Applause for one of Detroit’s most intelligent, talented and decent sports legends, who is ending nearly 30 years of service because he still stands for what this franchise was, and likely can’t stand what it has become.

As a player, Dumars was unique in Pistons history, a shooting guard good for 20 points and five assists a game, yet whose defense was his calling card, the best Michael Jordan ever faced. He was an NBA Finals MVP, the steady anchor of the Bad Boys’ rollicking ship and a consistent face of positivity in the community. Name one bad headline Joe Dumars ever made off the court. There should be applause for that.

When owner Bill Davidson first asked him to be president of basketball operations, Dumars wisely inquired whether he could take a year to learn the ropes of NBA management, travel around, study how winning teams became winning teams. The affectionate relationship between Davidson and Dumars is one of the NBA’s great unwritten stories.

Most mornings, Davidson would come to the practice facility, get a rubdown from the team trainer and talk to Dumars for hours about business, character, ethics, the old days. Dumars, a kid who met his future wife because he loved listening to her father tell stories on a Louisiana porch, soaked up the old man’s lessons. He absorbed Davidson’s devotion to Detroit and his belief that you don’t lose your soul just to win or make money.

Together they earned an NBA championship and went to six straight Eastern Conference finals. An elderly Jew who lived through the Depression and a young African-American son of a truck driver, they were the league’s best example of intergenerational diversity and success. There should be applause for that.

The highs and lows
Dumars, now 50, treated players fairly, honestly and professionally. He kept them informed if they were on the trading block. He had them to his home, mentored the younger ones, shared laughs with the older ones. There’s a reason you’ve almost never heard a traded or cut player bad-mouth Dumars. That should bring applause as well.

True, the man who built the 2004 championship team has had his stumbles. Nobody now thinks Darko Milicic was worth the second pick in the 2003 draft (although plenty did then). And the 2008 trade for Allen Iverson (although partly about money) was a terrible turn. Josh Smith, Brandon Jennings and other recent moves are questionable, but you are limited when you’re a losing team with an impatient owner (more on that in a moment).

Remember, no GM is infallible. Jerry West is considered possibly the best ever. But he left the Lakers (and their L.A. allure) for Memphis, where his first team lost 54 games and his last, five years later, lost 60. The Grizzlies never won a playoff round in his tenure.

Milwaukee’s John Hammond was the NBA’s executive of the year in 2010; this year his Bucks are the worst team in the league. Danny Ainge, hailed as a Boston genius, traded his biggest stars last year; now the Celtics are behind the Pistons.

The job is a roller coaster. The salary cap is insanely frustrating. Dumars has won and lost. But if you think he suddenly lost his keen ability to evaluate talent, you don’t know him or basketball.

The Gores approach
Take a look at when things began to really sink for this team, around 2009. What happened? Davidson died. The rudderless franchise went into a choking limbo for two years, all moves tinged with making the team attractive to a new buyer. Finally that new buyer, Tom Gores, arrived, and he has been, quite frankly, one long cringe. Outside of dancing, placing himself in the middle of spotlights, shoving Phil Jackson embarrassingly into the mix and insisting Mo Cheeks be fired after 50 games, what has he contributed?

Dumars apparently warned Gores’ group early that you can’t treat an NBA team like a private equity investment — stripped, polished and sold off in five years. It requires a winning culture, an atmosphere that guides personnel. San Antonio has it. For a long time, Boston and the Lakers had it. And yes, Detroit had it.

But you can’t create it from a mansion in L.A., you can’t do it by chasing glitzy names (heaven help us if Isiah Thomas returns to the front office), and you can’t do it by issuing public ultimatums — all of which Gores has done.

And all of which, I’m guessing, is why Dumars has had it. Once you’ve enjoyed a certain professionalism and attitude, it’s tough to adjust — especially to an approach like Gores’. Sometimes, in sports, the tides just change.

So Dumars, as he has told insiders, will politely step down as his contract expires, although Gores might offer him a letterhead position of some kind. Harp if you will about Charlie Villanueva, but also mention Andre Drummond’s stunning potential. Complain about missing the playoffs, but don’t forget six straight years of at least three rounds.

Above all, don’t let the current circus put a clown face on Joe Dumars. Through all this, he has maintained his dignity, never stooping to swipes or finger points. He is one of the best to come down this pike, in short pants or long ones. And while it’s too late to change his mind or his exit, it’s not too late to applaud — and we should. He deserves that.

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Dude bought a team with no kind of plan or vision on what he wanted to do with it. I hate owners who aren't passionate about their team. I just think of what could have been if illitch was able to buy the team. But even that scenario isn't perfect cause he ain't got much time either, and Who knows how whoever inherits the team would run shyt.

shyt is looking real bleek. Unless gores hires a president to handle the team and totally removes himself from the day to day this team might be fukked.

 

[NormanConnors]

Dude bought a team with no kind of plan or vision on what he wanted to do with it. I hate owners who aren't passionate about their team. I just think of what could have been if illitch was able to buy the team. But even that scenario isn't perfect cause he ain't got much time either, and Who knows how whoever inherits the team would run shyt.

i dont believe Jennings or Smith would be on the team if Illitch had took over, and you already know the team would have been moved downtown. If Illitch kicked the bucket his fam would take over and do right by him. Gores came in on some powertrip shyt with a slave whip.

 

[manyfaces]

i dont believe Jennings or Smith would be on the team if Illitch had took over, and you already know the team would have been moved downtown. If Illitch kicked the bucket his fam would take over and do right by him. Gores came in on some powertrip shyt with a slave whip.

With apparently 0 basketball knowledge. That playoffs mandate was the worse idea possible. Hamstrung the team for another 3 years, unless we get a top notch gm and coach in here that all of a sudden know how to develop talent, draft well, are cap savvy with a good eye for value and complimentary skillsets, know how to come up with solid rotations, and aren't so rigid in those rotations that they can't adjust with the matchup advantages or stay with a hot hand if a nikka ballin, get nikkas to understand the concept of defensive rotations, how to communicate in d and how to defend a pick and roll, and will tell nikkas to get they had out they asses and get with the gameplan or .











But I don't expect any of that so I'm counting on us winning the lottery, drafting Wiggins, and that nikka magically metamorphosizes into a smaller, more athletic Durant to answer most of our needs and be able to insure we give the Bobcats a garbage pick next year.









And of course we just gonna get bumped out the 8th spot won somebody else moves up in the lottery

 

[Broad Street Bully]

every year this team is always 8th in draft standings. every year.

 

[Eza]

This will be the year that shyt changes though. We about to get that Chicago 2008 love, watch. We'll at least jump into the top 3 and be able to grab a stud.

This squad will be much better next year mane. The experiment obviously didn't work and it's just time for a new regime' to have a try at things. I'll miss that fool Joe, he brought me a championship in my graduation year from high school bruh,we showed our asses that whole summer. I still got the 04 championship ring as my lil Windows login Picture shyt ....But it was that time, I see the nikka eventually landing in Cleveland working with Gilbert in some capacity.

For now though, we sit back and patiently await this top 3 pick. Yessir.

 

[Broad Street Bully]

This will be the year that shyt changes though. We about to get that Chicago 2008 love, watch. We'll at least jump into the top 3 and be able to grab a stud.

This squad will be much better next year mane. The experiment obviously didn't work and it's just time for a new regime' to have a try at things. I'll miss that fool Joe, he brought me a championship in my graduation year from high school bruh,we showed our asses that whole summer. I still got the 04 championship ring as my lil Windows login Picture shyt ....But it was that time, I see the nikka eventually landing in Cleveland working with Gilbert in some capacity.

For now though, we sit back and patiently await this top 3 pick. Yessir.

smh all that sounds good but i aint buying it. this is bad breh, we are the epitome of ass. it disgusting. its gonna take at least five more years to even get competitive. watch.