For those voting Tuesday for the 2 Parties...

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read it. I don't think Obama will change anything significant. I feel he will be slightly better and he doesn't irritate me, personally, as much as Romney.

Truthfully, the system oppresses the lower classes, regardless of race. however, I'm aware of the racial situation in Amerikka.
 

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The two party system has completely failed us. its time to take money out of politics. i think the issue is deeper than that though. its a cultural thing, as long as money and profit is more important than human life we will never be right... its demonic
 
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read it. I don't think Obama will change anything significant. I feel he will be slightly better and he doesn't irritate me, personally, as much as Romney.

Truthfully, the system oppresses the lower classes, regardless of race. however, I'm aware of the racial situation in Amerikka.

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ok, so I read all that. So what do you propose we do instead? :leostare:

First stop having a condescending tone towards changing your views. Start picking third, fourth, fifth parties that lean towards changing policy in America without lobbyist involved.

Since the candidates of the 2 parties are chosen for you before you choose them...you can also stop voting all together to demand reform of the whole 2 party system. Enough people to stop voting, the 2 party system will crumble and people can create their own Democrats and Repubs. Many ways of doing different things...time to do something different.
 

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Start picking third, fourth, fifth parties that lean towards changing policy in America without lobbyist involved.
THIS IS USELESS AT THE PRESIDENTIAL LEVEL RIGHT NOW, BROTHER! THERE ARE NO OTHER PARTIES WITH THE MACHINERY IN PLACE TO STAND A CHANCE IN THAT ELECTION, DUDE! IF YOU WANT VIABLE THIRD PARTIES, YOU NEED TO BUILD THEM FROM THE GROUND UP, MEAN GENE! FORGET THE PRESIDENCY AND GET SOME CITY COUNCILMEN IN OFFICE! THEN SOME MAYORS! THEN SOME CONGRESSMEN! SOME SENATORS, AND SOME GOVERNORS! THEN VOTERS WILL BE AWARE THAT YOUR PLATFORM EXISTS AND YOU CAN MUSCLE YOUR WAY INTO THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE, BROTHER!

NAME SOME THIRD PARTY CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATES THAT WE SHOULD BE VOTING FOR, DUDE!

Since the candidates of the 2 parties are chosen for you before you choose them...
BARACK OBAMA IS PROOF THAT THIS IS NOT TRUE, BROTHER! THE OLD MONEY IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY MACHINE BACKED HILLARY, BUT OBAMA'S RECORD ON THE IRAQ WAR CHANGED THE PLAN, DUDE!

you can also stop voting all together
THIS DOES NOTHING BUT LEAVE THE PARTY LOYALIST VOTERS IN CHARGE, BROTHER! LIKE HOLLYWOOD SAID, THIRD PARTIES NEED TO BE BUILT FROM THE GROUND UP INSTEAD OF FUTILE ATTEMPTS AT THE OVAL OFFICE, DUDE!

NAME SOME THIRD PARTY MAYORAL OR GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATES WE SHOULD SUPPORT, BROTHER!
 
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The problem with these threads is the OP assumes his list (or any list) is the entire universe of reasons for voting for a candidate.

The problem is you are complaining about the same people who are willing to enlighten your dumb ass on how things work. You are afraid to take a step forward into getting out your box is to ridicule those who has something to say. You have yet to say anything worth listening to.
 
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THIS IS USELESS AT THE PRESIDENTIAL LEVEL RIGHT NOW, BROTHER! THERE ARE NO OTHER PARTIES WITH THE MACHINERY IN PLACE TO STAND A CHANCE IN THAT ELECTION, DUDE! IF YOU WANT VIABLE THIRD PARTIES, YOU NEED TO BUILD THEM FROM THE GROUND UP, MEAN GENE! FORGET THE PRESIDENCY AND GET SOME CITY COUNCILMEN IN OFFICE! THEN SOME MAYORS! THEN SOME CONGRESSMEN! SOME SENATORS, AND SOME GOVERNORS! THEN VOTERS WILL BE AWARE THAT YOUR PLATFORM EXISTS AND YOU CAN MUSCLE YOUR WAY INTO THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE, BROTHER!

This is where the problem lies...we have allowed the 2 party system to dictate that any other party outside their 2 groups are useless and don't work when in reality...without people voting for the 2 party...they are useless. I agree with you on the ground level but you have to be wise as the Elite has made sure they have put money down those small elections as well to keep the same process going. The problem still lies that the parties are still the same at the local level as the presidential level. We have to rely on local level to stop having a party affiliations...demand it.



NAME SOME THIRD PARTY CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATES THAT WE SHOULD BE VOTING FOR, DUDE!

Here is the list....
United States third party and independent presidential candidates, 2012 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




BARACK OBAMA IS PROOF THAT THIS IS NOT TRUE, BROTHER! THE OLD MONEY IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY MACHINE BACKED HILLARY, BUT OBAMA'S RECORD ON THE IRAQ WAR CHANGED THE PLAN, DUDE!

Ummm Barack was chosen by the Elite way before the war even happen. The man's influences Zbigniew Brzezinski paid for his schooling from Harvard on...which helped him get pushed into politics...now is his Foreign Policy advisor. Why would a CFR and Trilateral Commisson head want Barry to go into politics after High School? B.O. Wife is also CFR.




THIS DOES NOTHING BUT LEAVE THE PARTY LOYALIST VOTERS IN CHARGE, BROTHER! LIKE HOLLYWOOD SAID, THIRD PARTIES NEED TO BE BUILT FROM THE GROUND UP INSTEAD OF FUTILE ATTEMPTS AT THE OVAL OFFICE, DUDE!

I said when enough voters which is in the millions...they need us, we don't need them. I agree with your 2nd statement.


NAME SOME THIRD PARTY MAYORAL OR GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATES WE SHOULD SUPPORT, BROTHER!

Props for your real questions and view.
 

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THAT'S A LIST OF PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES, BROTHER! I ASKED FOR CONGRESSIONAL, MAYORAL, AND GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATES, DUDE!

AND I HAVE TO ASK FOR A SOURCE ON YOUR CLAIM THAT A HALF BLACK HAWAIIAN HIGH SCHOOLER WAS HAND PICKED BY JIMMY CARTER'S NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER, BROTHER!
 

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First stop having a condescending tone towards changing your views. Start picking third, fourth, fifth parties that lean towards changing policy in America without lobbyist involved.

Since the candidates of the 2 parties are chosen for you before you choose them...you can also stop voting all together to demand reform of the whole 2 party system. Enough people to stop voting, the 2 party system will crumble and people can create their own Democrats and Repubs. Many ways of doing different things...time to do something different.

This isn't viable and you know it. :comeon:

I'm not saying things are ideal now, but to tell everyone to vote other parties or just not vote at all doesn't help.

PEople need to pay more attention to their local elections anyway. That's where the real change can occur in a realistic way.
 
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