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Millennials Feel Trapped in a Cycle of Internships With Little Pay and No Job Offers
By ALEX WILLIAMSFEB. 14, 2014

Like other 20-somethings seeking a career foothold, Andrew Lang, a graduate of Penn State, took an internship at an upstart Beverly Hills production company at age 29 as a way of breaking into movie production. It didn’t pay, but he hoped the exposure would open doors.

When that internship proved to be a dead end, Mr. Lang went to work at a second production company, again as an unpaid intern. When that went nowhere, he left for another, doing whatever was asked, like delivering bottles of wine to 27 offices before Christmas. But that company, too, could not afford to hire him, even part time.

A year later, Mr. Lang is on his fourth internship, this time for a company that produces reality TV shows. While this internship at least pays him (he makes $10 an hour, with few perks), Mr. Lang feels no closer to a real job and worries about being an intern forever. “No one hires interns,” said Mr. Lang, who sees himself as part of a “revolving class of people” who can’t break free of the intern cycle. “Is this any way to live?”

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Breanne Thomas is interning for a tech company in New York. Karsten Moran for The New York Times

The intern glass ceiling isn’t limited to Hollywood. Tenneh Ogbemudia, 23, who aspires to be a record executive, has had four internships at various New York media companies, including Source magazine and Universal Music Group.

“In any given month, I’d say I apply to at least 300 full-time jobs,” she said, noting these attempts were to no avail. “On the other hand, I can apply to one or two internship positions a month and get a call back from both.”

Call them members of the permanent intern underclass: educated members of the millennial generation who are locked out of the traditional career ladder and are having to settle for two, three and sometimes more internships after graduating college, all with no end in sight....

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/16/fashion/millennials-internships.html
 
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All I'm going to say is if I spend $20 grand per year at a college for the next 4-5 years and when I come out and the best job I can get is some $15/hr BS, I'd be heated

I'm surprised that college students are that docile. I would be running up and beating the shyt outta these scam ass teachers and administrators for lying :pacspit:
 

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I'm considering hiring interns for my company to procure new accounts and plan on paying them a percentage of profit. Any opinions on what would be fair?

I don't know... they may or may not put in as much work as you but, they take all of the risk. Time is more valuable than money because it's something that you can not get back. People work hard to make money so that they don't have to waste time working hard trying to make money. I'm not a big fan of commission only jobs. I prefer the ones that start you out on a salary for a specified amount of time and then transition to commission. This way the company is invested so they will do more to ensure they make a return on that investment.
 

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took an internship at an upstart Beverly Hills production company at age 29 as a way of breaking into movie production

I stopped reading right there. Of course, internships may not be worthwhile if we're speaking of fields that have bad job prospects.

Its just like the fallacy of saying college degrees aren't worth getting because the unemployment rate is high for college graduates. Whenever people cite statistics like that, they are necessarily including people that graduated with a degree in woman's studies, art, political science, or sociology. These fields have bad job prospects and they're getting worst as time goes on so of course the unemployment rate is gonna be high because too many people are perusing these fields without planning to go to graduate school.

If you look at nursing, applied mathematics, computer science, or engineering, the job prospects and internships are very good.
 

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All I'm going to say is if I spend $20 grand per year at a college for the next 4-5 years and when I come out and the best job I can get is some $15/hr BS, I'd be heated
I can sympathize with this sentiment when it comes to recent law graduates. A lot of law schools straight up fabricated statistics to show good job prospects when in actuality the legal field is terrible to get into right now.

But when it comes to something like getting a degree in political science, no one ever told you getting a degree in political science would be very profitable so you can't expect much out of it.
 

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Chickens coming home to roost. The elephant in the room is American workers dont have enough skills. One group has an industry specific skill that renders them useless when the market turns and the other thinks spending extra money on a meaningless degree gives them an express line to a good job. Lames across the board. Government really needs to get involved with these companies, find out what skills they need people to have, and offer training for these bums that are at home right now plotting a robbery.
 

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there is no skills gap. there simply are not enough middle class jobs in existence. with an over supply of educated people, this is escobar season for companies. ameican efficiency is at a ridiculously high level, that is bad for workers, great for employers. take a look at monster.com and see what is available. it's trash for the most part, and anything that is not trash requires experience plus the degree.
 
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