For Competitors Only .:. The Official 2017 Miami Heat Off-Season Thread

[Primetime21]

Melo makes sense for a lot of the reasons you listed @Alexander The Great Proven scorer, would come in with something to prove, and he only has 2 more years left on his deal. At 32 he's not as sexy a name as Jimmy Butler or Prince George but he's far more attainable and gives you a chance to compete with the right support around him

 

[HiphopRelated]

I think Riley will make a trade for Carmelo. and thats not as bad as some heat fans make it out to be. Melo will only have 2 years left on his contract, and according to bballinsiders, that last year has an early termination option. that makes his contract really flexible imo.

if they can talk him into, getting into the best shape of his life, playing the 4 the majority of the time, and buy into the offense, I can't see why anyone would be against giving it a go. especially if you consider that both Johnson and Waiters seem open to taking less to stay in Miami. a little work and they would be able to afford them, plus melo, plus ellington.

IF they do work out a deal for Carmelo, I assume they would have to include either RIchardson or Tyler Johnson. Knicks would probably want TJ. Riley would insist on them taking Mcbob's contract. AND he might give up whoever they draft. Knicks don't seem to have much leverage tho, Carmelo has no trade clause and options will be limited. Heat will have the Bosh cap space, so they won't have to give up much to get him. they would likely ask for Winslow, and I would hope Riley would laugh in their face.

IF they pull this off, this is the lineup I could see happening.

Whiteside
Anthony
Winslow
Waiters
Dragic

Bench:

James Johnson
Mcgruder
White
Halsem
Richardson
ellington

filler for the rest.

they REALLY need to find a true backup PG.

I would have Justise in the starting lineup, and move JJ back to the 6th man role. that starting lineup gives you 3 proven scorers, a do everything, defensive minded wing. plus Hassan. it also allows you to use JJ off the bench(he would still get his 20 mins per game) in a iguodala type role. to provide some scoring off the bench as well.

white, richardson, and mcgruder are cheap, they are both on basically minimum deals. haslem too.
whether they get carmelo or not, they will be hard pressed to be able to resign Reed. he'll probably get good money offers this offseason , so they will need to find another backup center.

is that team, on paper, a title contender? maybe not, but its a team that can compete to get out of the east IMO.

I could see that with Phil tanking Melo's value.

Last year they would have def asked for Winslow, but he might have more value to us right now anyway.

I'm all for packaging this year's pick for something proven

 

[Captain Crunch]

I fukks with both of y'all @Primetime21 @HiphopRelated and you guys make valid points for both sides(trying to compete vs blowing it up). I'm not gon lie I was laughing my ass off when y'all was going at it, but we can still be critical without throwing insults.

 

[Sohh_lifted]

I think Riley will make a trade for Carmelo. and thats not as bad as some heat fans make it out to be. Melo will only have 2 years left on his contract, and according to bballinsiders, that last year has an early termination option. that makes his contract really flexible imo.

if they can talk him into, getting into the best shape of his life, playing the 4 the majority of the time, and buy into the offense, I can't see why anyone would be against giving it a go. especially if you consider that both Johnson and Waiters seem open to taking less to stay in Miami. a little work and they would be able to afford them, plus melo, plus ellington.

IF they do work out a deal for Carmelo, I assume they would have to include either RIchardson or Tyler Johnson. Knicks would probably want TJ. Riley would insist on them taking Mcbob's contract. AND he might give up whoever they draft. Knicks don't seem to have much leverage tho, Carmelo has no trade clause and options will be limited. Heat will have the Bosh cap space, so they won't have to give up much to get him. they would likely ask for Winslow, and I would hope Riley would laugh in their face.

IF they pull this off, this is the lineup I could see happening.

Whiteside
Anthony
Winslow
Waiters
Dragic

Bench:

James Johnson
Mcgruder
White
Halsem
Richardson
ellington

filler for the rest.

they REALLY need to find a true backup PG.

I would have Justise in the starting lineup, and move JJ back to the 6th man role. that starting lineup gives you 3 proven scorers, a do everything, defensive minded wing. plus Hassan. it also allows you to use JJ off the bench(he would still get his 20 mins per game) in a iguodala type role. to provide some scoring off the bench as well.

white, richardson, and mcgruder are cheap, they are both on basically minimum deals. haslem too.
whether they get carmelo or not, they will be hard pressed to be able to resign Reed. he'll probably get good money offers this offseason , so they will need to find another backup center.

is that team, on paper, a title contender? maybe not, but its a team that can compete to get out of the east IMO.

I think it's gonna be a melo for bosh swap with our first rounder being included unless it's a top 3 pick..Chris keeps talking about coming back and if he doesn't the Knicks can clear that contract off of their books

 

[Captain Crunch]

I know Riley said Justice isn't going anywhere, but LeBatard said Riley praised a player shortly before trading him, so that's something to keep in mind

 

[Alexander The Great]

I think it's gonna be a melo for bosh swap with our first rounder being included unless it's a top 3 pick..Chris keeps talking about coming back and if he doesn't the Knicks can clear that contract off of their books

the knicks aren't going through all that trouble man. way too much uncertainly with bosh's situation for a team to trade for him. and there is no such thing as just "clearing him off the books" the heat had to wait a full year before they could, and even then its still complicated.

 

[HiphopRelated]

I know Riley said Justice isn't going anywhere, but LeBatard said Riley praised a player shortly before trading him, so that's something to keep in mind

Which is why I said its about his actions and not his words.

Riley: Not Interested In Trading Shaq - RealGM Wiretap

Gone a month later

 

[Captain Crunch]

Which is why I said its about his actions and not his words.

Riley: Not Interested In Trading Shaq - RealGM Wiretap

Gone a month later

Pat the Troll God

 

[Primetime21]

I know Riley said Justice isn't going anywhere, but LeBatard said Riley praised a player shortly before trading him, so that's something to keep in mind

They genuinely love Winslow in the mold they love UD, he's a Heat player. If a star became available yea anything could happen, but the " x teams wants Winslow included for the Heat to move up to 10" thats not going to happen.

 

[OfTheCross]

Off topic:

So I got an extra ticket for this Big Sean concert tonight at The Fillmore in Miami Beach...

Retail price is $60.

Who wants to make an offer?

 

[Freddie.Cane]

Off topic:

So I got an extra ticket for this Big Sean concert tonight at The Fillmore in Miami Beach...

Retail price is $60.

Who wants to make an offer?

Not a fan of sean now if u said Kendrick that's a different story

 

[OfTheCross]

Not a fan of sean now if u said Kendrick that's a different story

he's got some dude name MadeInTokyo opening up if you care

 

[Freddie.Cane]

he's got some dude name MadeInTokyo opening up if you care

I'm good breh

 

[Armchair Militant]

I really hope they don't trade for melo. I'd like to see them keep the pick unless they're getting a real star in return. They need to keep bringing in young talent.

 

[Freddie.Cane]

I really hope they don't trade for melo. I'd like to see them keep the pick unless they're getting a real star in return. They need to keep bringing in young talent.

Melo to the Heat :Coachumad: