Leave the god Barrera out of this
i didn't slander that man ..it's the truth breh lol
Leave the god Barrera out of this
im pretty sure there's no lineal champ at 154 right now breh
Originally Posted by BennyST View Post
I dont think anyone is completely ok with it. But pretending it's going to make any difference to the fight is like Floyd fans pretending it made any difference to the Cotto/Pac fight.
It didn't, and it wont for this either.
The only real issue in this is for some pathetic superiority motive to pretend Pac is more legit and Floyd is his usual fake self. It's just typical politics. In other words, bull****.
The fact that he's taking on Canelo at all is greater than anything Pac has done, arguably since Barrera 1 or moving up to fight Cotto, at a catchweight, or Bradley, at seven pounds higher than Bradley fought at.
Unless people forget a few important facts here: All of Pac's greatest wins in nearly the last decade and the stuff that made his legacy as an ATG has come at catchweights or weights that people hadn't fought at comfortably ever, or in years.
Oscar: hadn't fought at 147 in nearly a decade.
Marquez: first (ie. their 3rd fight) fought at a catchtweight, then fought at a weight he'd only fought at once and lost horribly, then making him come up to the full division limit because of it.
Cotto: fought at a catchweight for Cotto's title two pounds under the limit.
Morales: wanted to fight above 130 as he'd been struggling to make the limit and said it would have too much of an effect on him.
Bradley: made Bradley come up 7 pounds to fight him at 147, despite making Cotto come down 2 pounds to 145 to fight him for the same title, or making Marquez come up 9 and 12 respectively.
Margarito: Pac winning a 154 pound title at 150, against an untitled, should-have-been-unranked-Margarito coming down to a weight he clearly couldn't make healthily anymore and obviously couldn't fight at.
Rios; Pac's latest fight: making Rios jump up another 7 pounds, despite only just moving up to 140 two fights ago. No one is saying anything about this at all, let alone a million page thread full of nothing but hate and accusations.
Come on guys! Get over yourselves. You argued black and blue saying it was only fair then, all of you, now that someone you hate is doing it for only the second time, you're acting as if the world is ending despite your hero having done it constantly.
Any Floyd fan thinking it is completely ok is idiotic, but any Pac fan arguing against it is even worse and the most hypocritical POS, fake, retarded ****er going around.
It's what Pac made a career of doing in the last decade, so get the **** over it real quick like. It's no different than Pac/Cotto and no one pretends that was anything other than what it ended up as.
Also, unless you forgot, Canelo has actually fought under and around 152 a lot recently so 152 is not only fine, but is nothing new at all.
He fought Baldomir at 150, Hatton at 151, Trout at 153.5, Gomez at 153.5, and more.
In fact, Alvarez's average since 2010 or so is probably right around 152. Cotto's wasn't. Let it go people. It's the biggest fight in boxing right now, don't ruin with unjustified rubbish, especially when it's actually highly hypocritical.
Mexican Independence Day?!!! Floyd seriously has a hate for Mexicans, fukks up all their holidays.
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alvarez is champ. Gawdweather is basically gonna take on the jr middleweight king. if he wins, hes undisputed in both division
my lord.
This will be a very tough fight for Floyd. I don't understand why Floyd would go back up to 154 after it's been shown that he has trouble fighting there. This isn't De la hoya or over-the-hill Cotto. Plus this kid is going to come into the ring huge.
I really don't understand Floyd. He has nothing to prove, and yet he's going out his way to fight these guys like his legacy isn't cemented.
thats only the ring ratings...someone has to beat all the champs in that division to get lineal claim..there hasn't been a lineal champ at 154 since winky wright held the wbc, wba, and ibf belts and eventually stripped of all of them without losing them in the ring or losing another 154 fight
floyd knows hes not ready, hes gonna pick him apart
he might be bigger but floyd is smarter
This fight will do big numbers, I've already had a bunch of people text me and post about it on Facebook that are the most casual of combat sports fans.
the ring is the only governing body that has a formula. sometimes i dont agree with them, but they say it and thats what it is.
mayweather is linear champ at 147 and canelo is at 154. you can dispute it, but the ring is awknowledged as the gatekeepers of linear champs.