Floyd Mayweather Jr-Manny Pacquiao Master Discussion Thread

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The last negotiations were around the time when Floyd HIMSELF said he called Pacquiao to offer him 40 million and no cut of the ppv...which would've allowed Floyd to rake in over 100 million dollars for the fight which was said to generate about 200 million dollars:sas1:

Manny said no, which is expected because he deserves a cut of the PPVs, and Floyd refused to negotiate any further:sas2:


The problem with that is Floyd has said both, that he was gonna offer a split and he also said he wasn't,( I have heard him say both in separate interviews) but it never got far because Manny basically hung up and didn't even attempt to negotiate.

Im pretty sure Manny was gonna get ppv money but hey I guess Floyd has given Maidaina, Canelo, Cotto, Mosley, Ortiz and Robert fukking Guerrero ppv money but Manny want gonna get a dime.

Oh and your numbers are a bit skewed breh! If the fight did generate 200 million after cable take they half, you got 100 million left pleiboi. So Floyd couldnts have made 100 million in that scenario and furthermore If that is in fact the case then Floyd did offer him 60/40 before he lost Bradley, got :deadmanny: by JMM, and fought back to back stuggle ppv in a row.
 

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The problem with that is Floyd has said both, that he was gonna offer a split and he also said he wasn't,( I have heard him say both in separate interviews) but it never got far because Manny basically hung up and didn't even attempt to negotiate.

Im pretty sure Manny was gonna get ppv money but hey I guess Floyd has given Maidaina, Canelo, Cotto, Mosley, Ortiz and Robert fukking Guerrero ppv money but Manny want gonna get a dime.

Oh and your numbers are a bit skewed breh! If the fight did generate 200 million after cable take they half, you got 100 million left pleiboi. So Floyd couldnts have made 100 million in that scenario and furthermore If that is in fact the case then Floyd did offer him 60/40 before he lost Bradley, got :deadmanny: by JMM, and fought back to back stuggle ppv in a row.
My numbers are skewed?:dwillhuh:

You are aware that Boxers also get paid off of gate revenue as well?:mjpls:


They dont get paid a flat amount and PPV only. They also get a percentage of the live gate (and some like Canelo and Floyd also get a cut of the tickets/concessions as well):sas1:


Floyd would've walked away with over 100 million dollars after everything came back. Hell, he came back with 75 million after everything came back against Canelo....and he was only guaranteed 41.5 million up front. Against Pacquiao, he would be guaranteed much more upfront:sas2:

That's why back end is SO important.:obama:
 
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Why would 50 lie on him though??. When has 50s credibility ever been that of a liar.. He said what everyone already knew.. Floyd turned down $100 million because Pac was gonna get way more than Floyds $40 million offer


Why wouldn't 50 lie on him though? Same guy who already tried to get him to sign some bootleg contract some nikka wrote in crayon when Floyd was locked up.
 
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My numbers are skewed?:dwillhuh:

You are aware that Boxers also get paid off of gate revenue as well?:mjpls:


They dont get paid a flat amount and PPV only. They also get a percentage of the live gate (and some like Canelo and Floyd also get a cut of the tickets/concessions as well):sas1:


Floyd would've walked away with over 100 million dollars after everything came back. Hell, he came back with 75 million after everything came back against Canelo....and he was only guaranteed 41.5 million up front. Against Pacquiao, he would be guaranteed much more:sas2:

That's why back end is SO important.:obama:


Breh you said the fight was gonna generate 200 million, if your saying its gonna generate more put a number out that reflects that.



Again maybe if Manny didn't hang up the phone and tried to actually discuss the numbers we would have seen a different outcome in 2012.



What I want to understand is if your saying 60/40 was a good split back then, then now it should be like (ill be generous) 80/20 right?
 

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Why wouldn't 50 lie on him though? Same guy who already tried to get him to sign some bootleg contract some nikka wrote in crayon when Floyd was locked up.
Why wouldn't he lie:mjlol: you sound like a fool..

Sign what contract in crayon?? So you're just gonna resort to trolling breh?? Just cause you're in denial?
 

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Breh you said the fight was gonna generate 200 million, if your saying its gonna generate more put a number out that reflects that.



Again maybe if Manny didn't hang up the phone and tried to actually discuss the numbers we would have seen a different outcome in 2012.



What I want to understand is if your saying 60/40 was a good split back then, then now it should be like (ill be generous) 80/20 right?
Manny cant legally negotiate a contract without his manager present?.. Foyd knows that.. TR already tried to get Floyd to budge on the revenue split. They went out to his gym.. mwt multiple times.. Floyd wouldn't budge.. and Floyd wasn't even the A side at the time..

If Pac handed the phone to his manager why wouldn't Floyd continue to negotiate the split then with his manager or Arum.. The people that legally handle that part of the negotiation?
 

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Breh you said the fight was gonna generate 200 million, if your saying its gonna generate more put a number out that reflects that.



Again maybe if Manny didn't hang up the phone and tried to actually discuss the numbers we would have seen a different outcome in 2012.



What I want to understand is if your saying 60/40 was a good split back then, then now it should be like (ill be generous) 80/20 right?


80/20 is a ridiculous offer, and probably something that Floyd wants Pacquiao to accept, which is why if this fight isnt made....and Floyd turns down $100 million again....he deserves all criticism that will be thrown his away.
 
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Manny cant legally negotiate a contract without his manager present?.. Foyd knows that.. TR already tried to get Floyd to budge on the revenue split. They went out to his gym.. mwt multiple times.. Floyd wouldn't budge.. and Floyd wasn't even the A side at the time..

If Pac handed the phone to his manager why wouldn't Floyd continue to negotiate the split then with his manager or Arum.. The people that legally handle that part of the negotiation?

Please show me where its written that legally a boxer cant negotiate without his manager. Now the creating and actual signing of the physical contract maybe but even then I doubt there is legality issues unless your not paying your manager his cut. If you can find something in writing that proves it one way or another than Ill stand corrected.



When did any of the rest of what your saying happen? Oh I guess im required to take Top Ranks word for it then?
 
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80/20 is a ridiculous offer, and probably something that Floyd wants Pacquiao to accept, which is why if this fight isnt made....and Floyd turns down $100 million again....he deserves all criticism that will be thrown his away.

Why would 80/20 be bad when 60/40 was seemingly on the table before Manny lost to Bradley got koed by Juan and had back to back ppv bombs?

Again when did Floyd actually turn down a 100 million? Floyd been getting the lionshare of the blame for the fight not taking place but Manny(Arum) is the one who has turned down the fight in 09/10, 12 and now its 2014 and hes gonna turn down the fight again to fight Jessie Vargas for what... 5-10 million maybe :mjlol:
 
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