Floyd Mayweather Jr-Manny Pacquiao Master Discussion Thread

[Black_Jesus]

The same reason Pac asking Cotto for a catchweight was ridiculous. He had been coming in the ring at 147, since his days at 135.

Remind you, Floyd came in at 149 on fight night against DLH at 154. So whats that? 2 pounds between them on fight night even though they were fighting 3 divisions apart?

For comparison

Floyd was 138 fighting at 135, which means had him and Pac met at 135, Pac would have been the bigger man by 9 pounds Which is why its laughable to make it seem like Pac is so small, when in reality he was a WW fighting at 135.

This doesn't even make sense because it has nothing to do with what you quoted?? "How was Pac coming from 135 to face Oscar at 147 a bad matchup"

Pacs night of the fight weight compared to his weigh in 135 with Oscar has nothing to do with anything you quoted.. has nothing to do with fighting Cotto at a catchweight either.. Matter of fact, why are you even bringing up night of the fight weights anyway. . You up in here sounding like that clown @Master Teacher you do not wanna sound like that nikka. Ignore night of the fight unofficial weigh ins breh

Because Floyd fought him when no one else wanted to. When Roach was saying Mosley was "too good" and if they did fight it would have to be at 142 http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb/02/sports/la-sp-dwyre-pacquiao2-2010feb02

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Oscar was washed up when both Pac and Floyd fought him.. Everyone should agree on that, but the fact that Pac is coming from 135 kinda cancels that shyt out...

Also Oscar didn't properly rehydrate after the weigh in so he was definitely drained..

Pac was was 138 in his next fight against Hatton..

Which means Pac has yet to fight a legit WW yet, so why would he be fighting(at the time) the #1 ranked WW in the world Shane Mosley as his first real test?... Especially before Floyd fought him.. Instead of fighting Shane they opt to fight a smaller ww, Miguel Cotto at 145 where he was only weighing in at 146 in his last match and it was in house TR, which means more money.. He fought Shane a year later after he was more comfortable at that weight fighting against guys much bigger than him..

Why are you saying it was a bad match up?? He fought Shane a year later at 147 not 142.. Youre arguing a point that has nothing to do with the question

Neither were prime, but both were coming off solid wins. Add to the fact that Shane was coming off from all but decapitating Margarito.

Shane wasn't coming off anything when he fought Floyd.. He hadn't stepped in a ring in a year and 5months.. He was definitely cold, but im not gonna sit here and discredit Floyds win or say that was a horrible match up because of that

Oscar also said he wasn't expecting Pacquiao to be so big or fast And said he was drinking throughout the camp for the Pac fight, which is probably why he looked like this.

He thought he was going in against a smaller man, but was actually the smaller man on fight night

how is that Pacquiao's fault though? That Oscar didn't properly rehydrate like an idiot?? That match up wasn't supposed to be that much in Pac's favor.. But still you cant take the win away from him because of poor conditioning on Oscar's part.. He fukked up

Pac was never a true 135, so when he came to WW, he was already a WW and all he did was cut less. There was no "moving up in weight" he was already coming in at 147, and DLH was stupid.


Because Hatton himself said he wasnt the same

Now if you wanna say Pac was naturally more of a JWW then cool, but you're saying Pac was a WW before he was WW.. thats like you saying Canelo is a Super Middleweight... Now you're talking that dumb @Master Teacher bullshyt again.. Dont be that nikka ... Pac has only made 147 in a weigh in twice his ENTIRE career

Cotto was just off the bricks with Concreto. Algieri SQUEAKED out a win vs Provo. Which I scored for him, but it wasn't impressive. Clottey

Bradley was at his peak though

Pac took out Cotto/Marg/Mosley.. If you dont wanna give him credit fine, but dont talk as if they're bad matchups acting as if there was someone better Pac could've fought outside of Floyd at the time...

Algieri beat Prov.. A win is a win.. Doesn't matter how close it was.. nikkas was clamoring for a Pac/Prov match before he lost to Algieri..

Clottey just came off a robbery lost to Cotto, so how was that a bad match up for Pac at 147?

 

[Black_Jesus]

@seemorecizzy
Floyd didnt even come close to a million last Cinco De Mayo.. How is he entitled to that date??

 

[krackdagawd]

My point was in response to the post claiming Floyd made Cinco De Mayo Weekend the 'special" date it is today since 2007...and it's not true.

The date was always special and always will be.

whats exactly your point?

*Goes back to the boxing thread*

I can't with you nikkas today.

 

[seemorecizzy]

*Goes back to the boxing thread*

I can't with you nikkas today.

 

[seemorecizzy]

@seemorecizzy
Floyd didnt even come close to a million last Cinco De Mayo.. How is he entitled to that date??

What about the other times u idiot
He almost hit 900 last fight
that's double almost triple of canelos best fight

 

[Jesus Is Lord]

The same reason Pac asking Cotto for a catchweight was ridiculous. He had been coming in the ring at 147, since his days at 135.

Remind you, Floyd came in at 149 on fight night against DLH at 154. So whats that? 2 pounds between them on fight night even though they were fighting 3 divisions apart?

For comparison

Floyd was 138 fighting at 135, which means had him and Pac met at 135, Pac would have been the bigger man by 9 pounds Which is why its laughable to make it seem like Pac is so small, when in reality he was a WW fighting at 135.


Because Floyd fought him when no one else wanted to. When Roach was saying Mosley was "too good" and if they did fight it would have to be at 142 http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb/02/sports/la-sp-dwyre-pacquiao2-2010feb02





Neither were prime, but both were coming off solid wins. Add to the fact that Shane was coming off from all but decapitating Margarito.

Oscar also said he wasn't expecting Pacquiao to be so big or fast And said he was drinking throughout the camp for the Pac fight, which is probably why he looked like this.

He thought he was going in against a smaller man, but was actually the smaller man on fight night

Pac was never a true 135, so when he came to WW, he was already a WW and all he did was cut less. There was no "moving up in weight" he was already coming in at 147, and DLH was stupid.


Because Hatton himself said he wasnt the same





Cotto was just off the bricks with Concreto. Algieri SQUEAKED out a win vs Provo. Which I scored for him, but it wasn't impressive. Clottey

Bradley was at his peak though

 

[Black_Jesus]

What about the other times u idiot
He almost hit 900 last fight
that's double almost triple of canelos best fight

He did less Cinco De Mayo though... whats your point?

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Explain to me why Floyd deserves to fight on Cinco de Mayo over the top Mexican draw? no dikk riding please.

C'mon breh
Floyd been running that day whoopin ninjas asses for a minute, in fact he starched plenty of mexicans on Cinco De Mayo weekend. That and being the top draw, #1p4p fighter in the sport would do it for me

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Why would DLH be drinking during training camp

 

[krackdagawd]

C'mon breh
Floyd been running that day whoopin ninjas asses for a minute, in fact he starched plenty of mexicans on Cinco De Mayo weekend. That and being the top draw, #1p4p fighter in the sport would do it for me

That's cool and all but Canelo is Mexican and he feels that should be his date(as he should). Floyd is the #1p4p, the #1 draw etc then he should have no problems going head to head.

 

[Lavish]

these floyd haters with argue about anything

bunch of moist fakkits...mad that they been taking L's for years...basically everytime floyd wins they take another L. shyt has them furious so now they arguing about every little thing.

fukk outta here fakkits. let the gawd fight on that day. he's most important in boxing right now and the numbers show this.

 

[Black_Jesus]

these floyd haters with argue about anything

bunch of moist fakkits...mad that they been taking L's for years...basically everytime floyd wins they take another L. shyt has them furious so now they arguing about every little thing.

fukk outta here fakkits. let the gawd fight on that day. he's most important in boxing right now and the numbers show this.

We just wanna see Floydie fight the best since he's the so called "GOAT".. If not the best , then at least the next best.. And we dont give a fukk about what date he fights on or feels he's entitled to

 

[Lavish]

We just wanna see Floydie fight the best since he's the so called "GOAT".. If not the best , then at least the 2nd best.. And we dont give a fukk about what date he fights on or freels he's entitled to

it doesnt matter who the goat fights. yall will continue to move the goal posts as usual. After the first maidana fight same nikkas who were saying Maidana could be the one to beat floyd, quickly sang a different song after the second fight. now they sayin maidana was never on floyds level to begin with

meanwhile I and along with a few logical nikkas knew the first fight as only close due to the distractions in floyds personal life. and hell, it was only close for the first 5 rounds but leave it to yall nikkas, and that was the one nikka who had floyd "shook"

Floyd could shock everyone and and knock out pacman in the 5th round and nikkas will just say floyd should of faught him in his prime.

theres no winning with yall.

 

[krackdagawd]

these floyd haters with argue about anything

bunch of moist fakkits...mad that they been taking L's for years...basically everytime floyd wins they take another L. shyt has them furious so now they arguing about every little thing.

fukk outta here fakkits. let the gawd fight on that day. he's most important in boxing right now and the numbers show this.

We got Canadians in here calling dudes soft.

 

[Black_Jesus]

it doesnt matter who the goat fights. yall will continue to move the goal posts as usual. After the first maidana fight same nikkas who were saying Maidana could be the one to beat floyd, quickly sang a different song after the second fight. now they sayin maidana was never on floyds level to begin with

meanwhile I and along with a few logical nikkas knew the first fight as only close due to the distractions in floyds personal life. and hell, it was only close for the first 5 rounds but leave it to yall nikkas, and that was the one nikka who had floyd "shook"

Floyd could shock everyone and and knock out pacman in the 5th round and nikkas will just say floyd should of faught him in his prime.

theres no winning with yall.

Floyd stans