Floyd Mayweather Jr-Manny Pacquiao Master Discussion Thread

[Jesus Is Lord]

Yeah he's good at moving off the ropes, and darting in and out, but he doesn't have intelligent feet like that
He makes to many mistakes with his footwork, he trips over his own feet at times, particular when he throws the right hook, he makes too many glaring mistakes
he struggled with marquez for a reason, because he makes the same mistakes he does the same things he always, to say he has this great footwork I don't see it
once his ridiculous tendacies are pointed out and you go back and watch his fights, no matter which one you see the same things, it's just evident

give me an example of his great foot work, that's all I'm asking I don't see it
when throw combinations its looks like he's about do the splits
the counter is always there

Never said he had "great" footwork, I said he had "effective" footwork and "excellent" balance, so I can't give you what you're asking for.

I've studied Manny as well many others and I that same footwork that you say isn't "intelligent" has baffled many fighters, including Marquez, since you want to bring him up. No one has perfect footwork and no one is claiming Manny does, but you are seriously down pLaying his footwork. He has way more positives than negatives, the only glaring weakness IMO is when he shuffles before he punches and his inability to recover quicker than others when he misses big shots, but that doesn't mean he lack intelligent feet and good/effective footwork.

The reason he so called "struggled" (smh really?), with Marquez isn't because of footwork, it's because of style. SMART counterpunches will give give aggressive fighters problem, always. Marquez is a SMART counterpuncher and Manny's footwork is what set up those shots he BEAT Marquez with. Your opinion of Manny sounds biased.

 

[ThaGlow]

Agree with Pacquiao lunging, he always over extends himself to land a punch, main reason he's so suspect to counter punches...as long as Floyd can control his range, he'll slap Pacquiao around for 12 rounds....think Pacquiao will cause some problems though, due to the fact Floyd has lost his concentrations in his past few fights.

I wouldn't look too much into the though

Marquez had tons of experience with Pac before that KO. He himself been knocked down by Manny many times. Mayweather is a genius, so I'm sure he'll adjust, but Mayweather hasn't fought anyone close to his speed in a while. Whether Pac's relentlessness or Floyd's genius comes through....... gonna be good one way or another.

 

[Romey Rome]

I agree make the poll public. If they both sign for the fight does that mean bob arum is completely out of the deal? I thought there was a report Floyd won't do the fight if arum is involved in any way.

 

[ThaGlow]

Never said he had "great" footwork, I said he had "effective" footwork and "excellent" balance, so I can't give you what you're asking for.

I've studied Manny as well many others and I that same footwork that you say isn't "intelligent" has baffled many fighters, including Marquez, since you want to bring him up. No one has perfect footwork and no one is claiming Manny does, but you are seriously down pLaying his footwork. He has way more positives than negatives, the only glaring weakness IMO is when he shuffles before he punches and his inability to recover quicker than others when he misses big shots, but that doesn't mean he lack intelligent feet and good/effective footwork.

The reason he so called "struggled" (smh really?), with Marquez isn't because of footwork, it's because of style. SMART counterpunches will give give aggressive fighters problem, always. Marquez is a SMART counterpuncher and Manny's footwork is what set up those shots he BEAT Marquez with. Your opinion of Manny sounds biased.

Real shyt.

Lol, when Pac wants to be a ring general, dude is crazy with it. How many times we seen Pac get in and get out before the opponent can even throw. Or if they do throw, its a wild miss. Yeah, he get cracked sometimes, but its boxing. As long as he taking less punishment than he receives, its effective for him.

 

[Jesus Is Lord]

Stop using that word flat footed because you obviously don't know what it means, if maidana was flat footed he wouldn't have been able corner Floyd at the times he did
you don't know what you are talking about you just parroting buzz words you hear people say

if canelo was flat footed, he would not have been able to hawk down lara who was running from him the second half the fight

manny couldn't hawk down shane on ONE FOOT

manny couldn't hawk down Bradley who was one ONE FOOT

manny couldn't cut the ring off from Algieri, he was FLOPPING for half of those knock downs because he was scarred lol

stop running your mouth

we ain't gotta talk about who they fought and who they didn't

you can see with your own eyes, until then shut the fukk up

Chino cornered Floyd due to his ACTIVITY. Floyd fell back because when he fights busy fighters ala Hatton or Chino, he uses HIS footwork, and since he doesn't have the superior footwork like he USED to, he got cornered by Chino. In the second fight, Floyd tapped into his superior footwork and kept Chino at bay, which shows that Chino's footwork didn't corner Floyd in the first fight, it was his activity and FLOYD'S lack of footwork. Chino IS flat footed breh, come on.

When Manny fought Shane, AT TMES he was apprehensive because of Shane's one hitter quitter power. Nothing to do with Manny lack of footwork.

Manny did cut Algeria off, that's how he got Algeri to "flop". Breh, Algeri had great movement, but how did Manny catch up to him? Footwork.

 

[Newzz]

This is The Major Leagues "Coliseum" Thread. Go back to the Minor Leagues "The Ring" and stop being Homotional.

 

[BlackAchilles]

The weigh-in should be followed by a music performance by George Clinton and Larry Holmes

 

[Jesus Is Lord]

Smh

 

[BlackManLiveFromLondon]

Pacquaio gonna demonstrate the three ways to sleep guys this was all in Mayweathers DVD

 

[Master Teacher]

Chino cornered Floyd due to his ACTIVITY. Floyd fell back because when he fights busy fighters ala Hatton or Chino, he uses HIS footwork, and since he doesn't have the superior footwork like he USED to, he got cornered by Chino. In the second fight, Floyd tapped into his superior footwork and kept Chino at bay, which shows that Chino's footwork didn't corner Floyd in the first fight, it was his activity and FLOYD'S lack of footwork. Chino IS flat footed breh, come on.

When Manny fought Shane, AT TMES he was apprehensive because of Shane's one hitter quitter power. Nothing to do with Manny lack of footwork.

Manny did cut Algeria off, that's how he got Algeri to "flop". Breh, Algeri had great movement, but how did Manny catch up to him? Footwork.

Chino is not flat footed, at least in those mayweather, he's never flat on his feet , just because in the second fight mayweather was able to get off the ropes, doesn't mean chino was cornering him with his feet, Floyd was just a step head and could escape off the ropes, in the second fight he was less active than the first, but he still cut the ring off

margarito is a flat footed fighter and so is Robert guerrero, Robert Garcia improved maidana' feet immensely, mayweather is just smarter he was able to set traps for maidana, it's not because maidana was flat footed, if he was flat footed the fight would've looked similar to the Robert guerrero fight

 

[Master Teacher]

Never said he had "great" footwork, I said he had "effective" footwork and "excellent" balance, so I can't give you what you're asking for.

I've studied Manny as well many others and I that same footwork that you say isn't "intelligent" has baffled many fighters, including Marquez, since you want to bring him up. No one has perfect footwork and no one is claiming Manny does, but you are seriously down pLaying his footwork. He has way more positives than negatives, the only glaring weakness IMO is when he shuffles before he punches and his inability to recover quicker than others when he misses big shots, but that doesn't mean he lack intelligent feet and good/effective footwork.

The reason he so called "struggled" (smh really?), with Marquez isn't because of footwork, it's because of style. SMART counterpunches will give give aggressive fighters problem, always. Marquez is a SMART counterpuncher and Manny's footwork is what set up those shots he BEAT Marquez with. Your opinion of Manny sounds biased.

Smart counter punchers eat of Manny because of his feet out of position when he punches, he literally cannot move out the way

 

[GzUp]

It can go the way we always see floyd fights.

Im curious and to see how floyd reacts to the angles Manny will give him.

 

[Jesus Is Lord]

Chino is not flat footed, at least in those mayweather, he's never flat on his feet , just because in the second fight mayweather was able to get off the ropes, doesn't mean chino was cornering him with his feet, Floyd was just a step head and could escape off the ropes, in the second fight he was less active than the first, but he still cut the ring off

margarito is a flat footed fighter and so is Robert guerrero, Robert Garcia improved maidana' feet immensely, mayweather is just smarter he was able to set traps for maidana, it's not because maidana was flat footed, if he was flat footed the fight would've looked similar to the Robert guerrero fight

Okay, then he is an IMPROVED flat foot fighter. See you seem to take things to the extreme, to say someone is a flat footed fighter doesn't mean that they don't show ANY footwork, it just means that the MAJORITY of the time and in their CAREER, they fight/fought flat footed. Is Chino capable of using good footwork, sure, but the mere fact that you stated (and I'm in agreement) that Garcia "improved Maidana' feet immensely", just further proves that Chino's footwork was FLAT, and still is the majority of the time. He's a work in progress.

 

[Master Teacher]

I wouldn't look too much into the though

Marquez had tons of experience with Pac before that KO. He himself been knocked down by Manny many times. Mayweather is a genius, so I'm sure he'll adjust, but Mayweather hasn't fought anyone close to his speed in a while. Whether Pac's relentlessness or Floyd's genius comes through....... gonna be good one way or another.

In ever single one of their fights, Marquez lands that same straight right

in the third fight I believe he landed TWO STRAIGHT RIGHTS IN THE A ROW

also he didn't make manny pay for all his mistakes in either of those fights

the KO is the same thing manny has always done, whenever he throws his punch, Marquez feinted with the jab because he knows manny drops his hand

he did the exact SAME THING landed the exact same punch in the 2008 in the second fight, manny still falls for it

 

[seemorecizzy]

It can go the way we always see floyd fights.

Im curious and to see how floyd reacts to the angles Manny will give him.

pacquaio only knows how to fight one way
when floyd keeps making adjustments, hes gonna be confused as fukk
fight will be close for two rounds
unless pacquaio manages to hurt floyd
which i seriously doubt