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Mayweather Sr. Still Hints at PED Use in Pacquiao's Past
Posted by: Bill Emes on 1/14/2015


By Bill "Two Scoops" Emes

BoxingScene.com caught up with Floyd Mayweather Sr., father and trainer of WBC/WBA welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather Jr., to discuss a potential mega-fight showdown with Manny Pacquiao, the WBO welterweight champion, for May 2nd at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

Several years ago, Floyd Sr. (among other members of his family) accused Pacquiao of using performance enhancing drugs. The accusations began in early 2010, when Pacquiao refused to accept Mayweather's demand for a random drug testing protocol.

Floyd Sr., and several others involved, were sued by Pacquiao for defamation. Eventually, both sides reached a confidential settlement on the matter.

It does not appear that Floyd Sr. believes Pacquiao is currently taking something, but it still seems that he's under the impression that Pacquiao was once under the influence of PEDs - pointing to the fighter's inability to secure a knockout win since late 2009.

"A lot of people might think he's a great fighter. He did all of those knockouts. For some reason or another, I went to court for that. I had a reason on why I went to court. Now....why all of a sudden, after I went to court - he hasn't knocked anybody out in five years. C'mon man. He was knocking everybody out. Every time he touched them - they're gone," Mayweather Sr. told BoxingScene.com.

"Now all of a sudden......the last guy was an amateur and he couldn't even knock him out. [Chris] Algieri was an amateur. I'm just saying, in a manner of speaking, he fought just like an amateur and [Pacquiao] couldn't knock him out. He knocked him down. He knocked him down six times and still couldn't get him out. C'mon man it's a joke."



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This guy is so stupid. Only one fighter pacman faced in the last 5 years has been knocked out and that was Margarito. Everyone else has never been knocked out so maybe that's the reason. When's the last time Floyd knocked someone out that wasn't kissing him? :mjlol:
 

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Mayweather Sr. Still Hints at PED Use in Pacquiao's Past
Posted by: Bill Emes on 1/14/2015


By Bill "Two Scoops" Emes

BoxingScene.com caught up with Floyd Mayweather Sr., father and trainer of WBC/WBA welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather Jr., to discuss a potential mega-fight showdown with Manny Pacquiao, the WBO welterweight champion, for May 2nd at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

Several years ago, Floyd Sr. (among other members of his family) accused Pacquiao of using performance enhancing drugs. The accusations began in early 2010, when Pacquiao refused to accept Mayweather's demand for a random drug testing protocol.

Floyd Sr., and several others involved, were sued by Pacquiao for defamation. Eventually, both sides reached a confidential settlement on the matter.

It does not appear that Floyd Sr. believes Pacquiao is currently taking something, but it still seems that he's under the impression that Pacquiao was once under the influence of PEDs - pointing to the fighter's inability to secure a knockout win since late 2009.

"A lot of people might think he's a great fighter. He did all of those knockouts. For some reason or another, I went to court for that. I had a reason on why I went to court. Now....why all of a sudden, after I went to court - he hasn't knocked anybody out in five years. C'mon man. He was knocking everybody out. Every time he touched them - they're gone," Mayweather Sr. told BoxingScene.com.

"Now all of a sudden......the last guy was an amateur and he couldn't even knock him out. [Chris] Algieri was an amateur. I'm just saying, in a manner of speaking, he fought just like an amateur and [Pacquiao] couldn't knock him out. He knocked him down. He knocked him down six times and still couldn't get him out. C'mon man it's a joke."


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This guy is so stupid. Only one fighter pacman faced in the last 5 years has been knocked out and that was Margarito. Everyone else has never been knocked out so maybe that's the reason. When's the last time Floyd knocked someone out that wasn't kissing him? :mjlol:
He didn't even ko Marg.. you mean Cotto way back in 09

*EDIT* sorry i read wrong
 
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He didn't even ko Marg.. you mean Cotto way back in 09
your reading skills fail :snoop:. My post says the fighters have never been knocked out. Meaning nobody has knocked them out. Magarito got TKO by Mosley that's why i said except Margarito.:smugdraper:
 

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Isn't it crazy that u so good that u get accused of taking peds?

The ultimate compliment... U would think since they were willing to go to court u guys would drop it.
 

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Isn't it crazy that u so good that u get accused of taking peds?

The ultimate compliment... U would think since they were willing to go to court u guys would drop it.

I dont think that's the only reason why he got accused of taking PEDs.


I think the move up over many weight classes + keeping the same speed/power that you had at the lower weights + bigger head (nh) + crazy endurance where you're fighting at the same fast speed for all 12 rounds and no dip off in punching output + rarely initiating a clinch even against much naturally larger opponents + refusing to take random blood tests without a cut off date = PEDs becoming a question for many inside the sport:manny:
 

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I dont think that's the only reason why he got accused of taking PEDs.


I think the move up over many weight classes + keeping the same speed/power that you had at the lower weights + bigger head (nh) + crazy endurance where you're fighting at the same fast speed for all 12 rounds and no dip off in punching output + rarely initiating a clinch even against much naturally larger opponents + refusing to take random blood tests without a cut off date = PEDs becoming a question for many inside the sport:manny:
Maybe he just has ultimate stamina? It's sad they claim this when he has always been fighting like this. Moving up in weight should actually help with power, stamina, etc because you're not starving yourself to make weight.
 

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I dont think that's the only reason why he got accused of taking PEDs.


I think the move up over many weight classes + keeping the same speed/power that you had at the lower weights + bigger head (nh) + crazy endurance where you're fighting at the same speed for all 12 rounds and no dip off in production + rarely initiating a clinch against much naturally larger opponents + refusing to take random blood tests without a cut off date = PEDs becoming a question for many inside the sport:manny:

I get why he is being accused..i understand him moving up and still being dominate is the reason why the questions came about... ive thought it through and u got to look at it both ways... look at ways why manny is so good.

fighters he fought siad he didnt punch so hard but they didnt see the punches coming... with the angles he gives u pretty much a punching bag... he has the speed and hes always had some power... some fighters dont carry there power up and some do... he basically fights at his walk around wieght like floyd does... Mosely siad that they punch about the same.

if he was on peds he would have been exposed ugly rightnow... he wouldnt have beat bradley.... even algeiri who is a big guy... u cant expect him to look like he did agianst cotto, hes older now... but he still looks very close to it.
 

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Maybe he just has ultimate stamina? It's sad they claim this when he has always been fighting like this. Moving up in weight should actually help with power, stamina, etc because you're not starving yourself to make weight.

Im sorry breh...but I've never witnessed ANY boxer in the history of the sport who was able to move as fast, throw as fast, and STILL have the same pop for 12 full rounds while moving up multiple divisions and against larger men. None except Manny Pacquiao that I can think of....and with him refusing to take random blood tests without a cut off date will always cast the shadow of the doubt over that run he had because like Pacquiao himself said about fighters NOT taking drug tests:

“It’s really important because, you never know, some fighters use drugs,” said Pacquiao, who will turn 35 in December. “It’s really important to have drug testing.”

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/179009-excited-pacquiao-discusses-drug-testing-rios
 

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Maybe he just has ultimate stamina? It's sad they claim this when he has always been fighting like this. Moving up in weight should actually help with power, stamina, etc because you're not starving yourself to make weight.
the harder u work were in training camp the easier the fight is, manny siad that and is known to be a beast in training camps.

i think he just has really good genetics... look at his wrists and ankles... thick as fukk... hes also known to eat like a horse.
 
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