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Pacquiao agrees to fight Mayweather
Updated: January 14, 2015, 3:18 AM ET
By Dan Rafael | ESPN.com
The fight the world has wanted to see for the better part of six years -- a long-awaited summit meeting between welterweight champions Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao, the two top boxers in the world -- is not done, but it has cleared a major hurdle.
Pacquiao and Top Rank, his promoter, have agreed to terms for a May 2 bout, Top Rank vice president Carl Moretti told ESPN.com on Tuesday night, although Mayweather has not yet agreed to terms and it remains to be seen if he will.
"Top Rank and Manny have agreed to the terms on our side. I don't know about the other side," Moretti said.
Nobody from Mayweather's camp could be reached for comment. Yahoo! Sports initially reported the development.
Top Rank chairman Bob Arum has been negotiating the bout for the past couple of months through Leslie Moonves, the president and CEO of CBS, which has two fights left on a six-fight contract CBS and subsidiary network Showtime signed Mayweather to in early 2013. Moonves, according to Arum, has been acting as a go-between in trying to hammer out Mayweather's end of the deal with adviser Al Haymon.
According to a source involved in the negotiations, Pacquiao has agreed to a 40 percent cut of the revenue, leaving Mayweather with the remaining 60 percent of a fight most believe will shatter every boxing box office record, including the all-time pay-per-view buy record of 2.4 million (Mayweather-Oscar De La Hoya), the pay-per-view revenue record of $150 million (Mayweather-Canelo Alvarez) and the all-time gate record of $20 million (Mayweather-Alvarez).
If the fight is finalized, it would take place May 2 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Moretti said. Mayweather has had his past 10 fights there, and Pacquiao has had five of his past seven bouts there.
Top Rank initially wanted to go in June to leave May 2 open for another major fight it is trying to finalize -- middleweight champion Miguel Cotto against former junior middleweight titlist Alvarez, a date Alvarez desperately wants to fight on because it is Cinco de Mayo weekend and he is Mexico's most popular active fighter.
But Top Rank gave in on the date, one Mayweather has insisted on, along with a host of other aspects of the fight.
The sides are so far along that they have drafted contracts, according to the Pacquiao side. While the Pacquiao camp agreed to terms, the attorneys on Mayweather's side indicated there were still open issues, although what they are is not clear, according to a source.
According to the Pacquiao side, everything was agreed to, including the gloves and drug testing. As far as the gloves go, each fighter would be able to select their own brand of 8-ounce gloves. Mayweather typically wears Grant gloves and Pacquiao fights in Cleto Reyes.
The drug testing protocol was the one open item that caused the fight to fall apart when it was first negotiated in late 2009 and early 2010. Mayweather wanted Pacquiao to submit to random Olympic-style drug testing, and he declined to do the kind of testing Mayweather (47-0, 26 KOs), who turns 38 in February, wanted.
However, Moretti said Pacquiao (57-5-2, 38 KOs), 36, who has subjected himself (and his opponents) to random testing by the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association for his recent bouts, has gone so far as to agree to use the United States Anti-Doping Agency, which has randomly tested Mayweather (and his opponents) for years.
"I think that Manny agreed to USADA testing shows you his eagerness to make this fight," Moretti said.
Mayweather and Pacquiao have been on a collision course since late 2009. Mayweather ended a nearly two-year retirement to easily outpoint Juan Manuel Marquez in September 2009, and two months later Pacquiao knocked out Miguel Cotto in the 12th round to win a welterweight title. Everything had been agreed to but the drug testing, including a 50-50 revenue split.
There have been various attempts over the years to try to make the fight, but it has never been as close as it was in 2009 as it is now.
Back then, Mayweather and Pacquiao were both associated with HBO, even though neither was under contract. In early 2013, Mayweather signed his contract with CBS/Showtime and still has two fights remaining with guarantees of at least $32 million per fight while Pacquiao is now under contract to HBO/Time Warner. Still, the networks are not an impediment to a deal.
Both networks have said that they are willing to work together for what would be a joint pay-per-view telecast, similar to what they did for another fight that had been demanded by the public for years -- the 2002 heavyweight championship fight between then-champion Lennox Lewis, who was under contract to HBO, and Mike Tyson, who was with Showtime.
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/12164550/manny-pacquiao-agrees-terms-fight-floyd-mayweather
On another note....which one of yall in here was questioning me on the fact that it leaked that TR would agree to the contract if they could get 5% more (60/40 instead of the 65/35 split which was originally offered by Showtime to them) which they eventually received and apparently signed their end of the deal
Im gonna have to search this thread
Updated: January 14, 2015, 3:18 AM ET
By Dan Rafael | ESPN.com
The fight the world has wanted to see for the better part of six years -- a long-awaited summit meeting between welterweight champions Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao, the two top boxers in the world -- is not done, but it has cleared a major hurdle.
Pacquiao and Top Rank, his promoter, have agreed to terms for a May 2 bout, Top Rank vice president Carl Moretti told ESPN.com on Tuesday night, although Mayweather has not yet agreed to terms and it remains to be seen if he will.
"Top Rank and Manny have agreed to the terms on our side. I don't know about the other side," Moretti said.
Nobody from Mayweather's camp could be reached for comment. Yahoo! Sports initially reported the development.
Top Rank chairman Bob Arum has been negotiating the bout for the past couple of months through Leslie Moonves, the president and CEO of CBS, which has two fights left on a six-fight contract CBS and subsidiary network Showtime signed Mayweather to in early 2013. Moonves, according to Arum, has been acting as a go-between in trying to hammer out Mayweather's end of the deal with adviser Al Haymon.
According to a source involved in the negotiations, Pacquiao has agreed to a 40 percent cut of the revenue, leaving Mayweather with the remaining 60 percent of a fight most believe will shatter every boxing box office record, including the all-time pay-per-view buy record of 2.4 million (Mayweather-Oscar De La Hoya), the pay-per-view revenue record of $150 million (Mayweather-Canelo Alvarez) and the all-time gate record of $20 million (Mayweather-Alvarez).
If the fight is finalized, it would take place May 2 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Moretti said. Mayweather has had his past 10 fights there, and Pacquiao has had five of his past seven bouts there.
Top Rank initially wanted to go in June to leave May 2 open for another major fight it is trying to finalize -- middleweight champion Miguel Cotto against former junior middleweight titlist Alvarez, a date Alvarez desperately wants to fight on because it is Cinco de Mayo weekend and he is Mexico's most popular active fighter.
But Top Rank gave in on the date, one Mayweather has insisted on, along with a host of other aspects of the fight.
The sides are so far along that they have drafted contracts, according to the Pacquiao side. While the Pacquiao camp agreed to terms, the attorneys on Mayweather's side indicated there were still open issues, although what they are is not clear, according to a source.
According to the Pacquiao side, everything was agreed to, including the gloves and drug testing. As far as the gloves go, each fighter would be able to select their own brand of 8-ounce gloves. Mayweather typically wears Grant gloves and Pacquiao fights in Cleto Reyes.
The drug testing protocol was the one open item that caused the fight to fall apart when it was first negotiated in late 2009 and early 2010. Mayweather wanted Pacquiao to submit to random Olympic-style drug testing, and he declined to do the kind of testing Mayweather (47-0, 26 KOs), who turns 38 in February, wanted.
However, Moretti said Pacquiao (57-5-2, 38 KOs), 36, who has subjected himself (and his opponents) to random testing by the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association for his recent bouts, has gone so far as to agree to use the United States Anti-Doping Agency, which has randomly tested Mayweather (and his opponents) for years.
"I think that Manny agreed to USADA testing shows you his eagerness to make this fight," Moretti said.
Mayweather and Pacquiao have been on a collision course since late 2009. Mayweather ended a nearly two-year retirement to easily outpoint Juan Manuel Marquez in September 2009, and two months later Pacquiao knocked out Miguel Cotto in the 12th round to win a welterweight title. Everything had been agreed to but the drug testing, including a 50-50 revenue split.
There have been various attempts over the years to try to make the fight, but it has never been as close as it was in 2009 as it is now.
Back then, Mayweather and Pacquiao were both associated with HBO, even though neither was under contract. In early 2013, Mayweather signed his contract with CBS/Showtime and still has two fights remaining with guarantees of at least $32 million per fight while Pacquiao is now under contract to HBO/Time Warner. Still, the networks are not an impediment to a deal.
Both networks have said that they are willing to work together for what would be a joint pay-per-view telecast, similar to what they did for another fight that had been demanded by the public for years -- the 2002 heavyweight championship fight between then-champion Lennox Lewis, who was under contract to HBO, and Mike Tyson, who was with Showtime.
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/12164550/manny-pacquiao-agrees-terms-fight-floyd-mayweather
On another note....which one of yall in here was questioning me on the fact that it leaked that TR would agree to the contract if they could get 5% more (60/40 instead of the 65/35 split which was originally offered by Showtime to them) which they eventually received and apparently signed their end of the deal
Im gonna have to search this thread
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Pacquiao agrees to fight Mayweather
Updated: January 14, 2015, 3:18 AM ET
By Dan Rafael | ESPN.com
The fight the world has wanted to see for the better part of six years -- a long-awaited summit meeting between welterweight champions Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao, the two top boxers in the world -- is not done, but it has cleared a major hurdle.
Pacquiao and Top Rank, his promoter, have agreed to terms for a May 2 bout, Top Rank vice president Carl Moretti told ESPN.com on Tuesday night, although Mayweather has not yet agreed to terms and it remains to be seen if he will.
"Top Rank and Manny have agreed to the terms on our side. I don't know about the other side," Moretti said.
Nobody from Mayweather's camp could be reached for comment. Yahoo! Sports initially reported the development.
Top Rank chairman Bob Arum has been negotiating the bout for the past couple of months through Leslie Moonves, the president and CEO of CBS, which has two fights left on a six-fight contract CBS and subsidiary network Showtime signed Mayweather to in early 2013. Moonves, according to Arum, has been acting as a go-between in trying to hammer out Mayweather's end of the deal with adviser Al Haymon.
According to a source involved in the negotiations, Pacquiao has agreed to a 40 percent cut of the revenue, leaving Mayweather with the remaining 60 percent of a fight most believe will shatter every boxing box office record, including the all-time pay-per-view buy record of 2.4 million (Mayweather-Oscar De La Hoya), the pay-per-view revenue record of $150 million (Mayweather-Canelo Alvarez) and the all-time gate record of $20 million (Mayweather-Alvarez).
If the fight is finalized, it would take place May 2 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Moretti said. Mayweather has had his past 10 fights there, and Pacquiao has had five of his past seven bouts there.
Top Rank initially wanted to go in June to leave May 2 open for another major fight it is trying to finalize -- middleweight champion Miguel Cotto against former junior middleweight titlist Alvarez, a date Alvarez desperately wants to fight on because it is Cinco de Mayo weekend and he is Mexico's most popular active fighter.
But Top Rank gave in on the date, one Mayweather has insisted on, along with a host of other aspects of the fight.
The sides are so far along that they have drafted contracts, according to the Pacquiao side. While the Pacquiao camp agreed to terms, the attorneys on Mayweather's side indicated there were still open issues, although what they are is not clear, according to a source.
According to the Pacquiao side, everything was agreed to, including the gloves and drug testing. As far as the gloves go, each fighter would be able to select their own brand of 8-ounce gloves. Mayweather typically wears Grant gloves and Pacquiao fights in Cleto Reyes.
The drug testing protocol was the one open item that caused the fight to fall apart when it was first negotiated in late 2009 and early 2010. Mayweather wanted Pacquiao to submit to random Olympic-style drug testing, and he declined to do the kind of testing Mayweather (47-0, 26 KOs), who turns 38 in February, wanted.
However, Moretti said Pacquiao (57-5-2, 38 KOs), 36, who has subjected himself (and his opponents) to random testing by the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association for his recent bouts, has gone so far as to agree to use the United States Anti-Doping Agency, which has randomly tested Mayweather (and his opponents) for years.
"I think that Manny agreed to USADA testing shows you his eagerness to make this fight," Moretti said.
Mayweather and Pacquiao have been on a collision course since late 2009. Mayweather ended a nearly two-year retirement to easily outpoint Juan Manuel Marquez in September 2009, and two months later Pacquiao knocked out Miguel Cotto in the 12th round to win a welterweight title. Everything had been agreed to but the drug testing, including a 50-50 revenue split.
There have been various attempts over the years to try to make the fight, but it has never been as close as it was in 2009 as it is now.
Back then, Mayweather and Pacquiao were both associated with HBO, even though neither was under contract. In early 2013, Mayweather signed his contract with CBS/Showtime and still has two fights remaining with guarantees of at least $32 million per fight while Pacquiao is now under contract to HBO/Time Warner. Still, the networks are not an impediment to a deal.
Both networks have said that they are willing to work together for what would be a joint pay-per-view telecast, similar to what they did for another fight that had been demanded by the public for years -- the 2002 heavyweight championship fight between then-champion Lennox Lewis, who was under contract to HBO, and Mike Tyson, who was with Showtime.
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/12164550/manny-pacquiao-agrees-terms-fight-floyd-mayweather
On another note....which one of yall in here was questioning me on the fact that it leaked that TR would agree to the contract if they could get 5% more (60/40 instead of the 65/35 split which was originally offered by Showtime to them) which they eventually received and apparently signed their end of the deal
Im gonna have to search this thread
gotta give you and my dude props. PM me questions to ask him the next time I see him brehs. My box is open.
He was chilling with Espinoza in Miami for the Holidays by the way.
He wouldn't mind introducing me to Espinoza but I didn't wanna feel like an interloper/stan
Yes....the one that Showtime offered TR with a 65/35 split.
From my understanding (and readings), TR is pretty much set to go. There's no real reservations on their side which is holding up the negotiations this time. They cool on their end, except wanting to see if they can squeeze out an extra 5% to make it 60/40 across the board. That aint no real money though, so they ready to roll. Everyone is just waiting on Floyd to sign the damn thing and then we get the fight boxing needs.
Floyd, however, is dragging this thing out. I do not know what he's waiting for
Breh, go back through this thread....I dont have time to dig up all the info (tweets from Stephen Espinoza himself) stating what they offered TR all the way back in August and it's still sitting on the table. It's a 65/35 split which was offered to TR by Showtime. Then, it was reported (which I also posted somewhere in here) that TR wants an additional 5% on the money and they will sign.
I posted all this stuff, and now Im kinda burnt out on it.
Floydis all I have left
Breh, you're gonna wait until a week later AFTER I posted about the 60/40 that to ask me to provide you a "credible source", ignoring the fact that I already said that it came from both Dan Rafael and Steve Kim?
Check their twitter feed breh, I dont have time for that anymore. It's way to many tweets to read through over a week later since it was 1st posted, plus Im done discussing this "fight" now. The ball is in Floyd's court and he better make the correct play....sign the contract
I ask for proof from credible source that you claimed was posted a week ago... and you quote yourself...
Come on breh you better than this...Again I'm not even arguing with you breh, I just want proof because maybe I missed something...you ain't the only one at work..
Not doubting you breh, you generally know your shyt but if Espinoza offered TR a contract for 65-35 and they haven't signed it, aren't THEY the hold up? Or am I missing something... I'm on my phone
but you have time to type the same posts multiple times...
You quoted yourself interpreting something supposedly Steve Kim and Dan Rafael said a week ago, you never posted any links to these actual tweets...You said those links were in this thread and they clearly aren't hence why neither I or you have been able to find them...I gave you a pass, I asked nicely multiple times to please provide a link and you come back quoting yourself...
Your post was made on the 22nd, I went back to the 19th on both Steve and Dan's twitters and there are no tweets evenly remotely validating your claim of Arum willing to accept 60/40 on either one of their twitters...I saw multiple tweets mentioning video rights and from Steve Kim shytting on Floyd but the math you keep claiming was never mentioned...What I'm assuming you did is read some pactards response to one of those tweets...
I am going to ask this one last time...If i'm wrong or you think i'm liying...POST THE LINKS...
You don't need to post a long ass response repeating the same shyt...POST THE LINKS...
Go back to December 15th or some shyt on their Twitter....I'm seriously done discussing this fight until new developments happen. I don't remember exactly where it was I found it, but next time I promise to post the tweet. I don't know why I didn't
And another thing, I was posting to you in-between clients. I didn't have time to look it up. I'm home now, but I don't care to look it up
You may be right about misreading the tweet, but I just don't care at all right now breh
@The Fukin Prophecy and @So-Chi ..... with the news that Pacquiao has agreed to terms at 60/40, do yall believe me now brehs?
60/40 was what TR was looking for all along...the extra 5% to move it up from 65/35 split to a 60/40 split
PM me questions to ask him the next time I see him brehs. My box is open.
He was chilling with Espinoza in Miami for the Holidays by the way.
He wouldn't mind introducing me to Espinoza but I didn't wanna feel like an interloper/stan
You got some solid info breh
What you posted he said, is almost exactly what's going on as well. Contract agreed to by Team Pacquiao....TMT holding out for some reason (I dont know what though
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You got some solid info breh
What you posted he said, is almost exactly what's going on as well. Contract agreed to by Team Pacquiao....TMT holding out for some reason (I dont know what though
myt bad breh. Thought I pmed you what I knew.
Dude said Floyd is smarter than we thought. Floyd basically won on everything going in that fight and that Pac wife hates Arum's guts. She even hates Roach. She is unhappy with the mismanagement of the money and she made Pac's manager take the trip to come see Floyd. He said Top Rank is not even involved. It's all SHowtime but either Roy or Max may co-host, but no Lampley of course.
I should have met Espinoza but he seems stuck up so I didn't wanna belittle myself