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Malinowski is claiming that the pressure is on for Al Haymon and Stephen Espinoza, two key figures that are in control of what’s next for Floyd Mayweather Jr. in 2015. Malinowski mentioned an unnamed source who has shared to him that CBS Chief Executive Officer (CEO) Leslie Moonves has already given the ultimatum to Espinoza, the general manager and executive vice president of Showtime Sports, to make the Mayweather vs. Pacquiao become a reality later this year.
“CBS CEO Les Moonves has given Showtime boxing head Stephen Espinoza the ultimatum to deliver Floyd Mayweather vs. Manny Pacquiao… Or else,” Malinowski stated in his article at ringobserver.com. “If he can’t deliver Floyd, Espinoza will be out of a job. And Haymon will also be out because the new boxing boss will not work with Haymon beyond the final two contracted Mayweather fights. So Haymon, already banned from HBO, will in effect be banned at Showtime.”

Malinwoski also speculated that Haymon will be pressured to ultimately agree with Espinoza on making Mayweather vs. Pacquiao happen because Haymon needs the money he’s earning coming from Showtime to develop his own boxing stable. Haymon recently signed a deal with the NBC network wherein Mayweather’s adviser/manager paid NBC roughly $20 million and get the air time to promote his own fighters.
This bothers me, because boxing as a whole didnt have to get to this state.

If the power players lean on the key boxing figures, they will be FORCED to make the best fights "..or else" - because boxing guys are at the mercy of these people who control the budget. it's not like these fights will go making the same amount of money without HBO/SHO

the fact that it's taken some guy who has no interest in sports to be like " :stopitslime: cmon now, dont fukk this shyt up" and that and only that is whats necessary to make this fight, makes me think all the promoters and network figureheads are in on this bullshyt

they could stop this "insubordination" (for lack of a better word) in general at step 2 or 3, but here we are at step 10 and only when people's jobs are at stake is when they wanna start doing what they were supposed to be doing in the first place :rolleyes:
 

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This bothers me, because boxing as a whole didnt have to get to this state.

If the power players lean on the key boxing figures, they will be FORCED to make the best fights "..or else" - because boxing guys are at the mercy of these people who control the budget. it's not like these fights will go making the same amount of money without HBO/SHO

the fact that it's taken some guy who has no interest in sports to be like " :stopitslime: cmon now, dont fukk this shyt up" and that and only that is whats necessary to make this fight, makes me think all the promoters and network figureheads are in on this bullshyt

they could stop this "insubordination" (for lack of a better word) in general at step 2 or 3, but here we are at step 10 and only when people's jobs are at stake is when they wanna start doing what they were supposed to be doing in the first place :rolleyes:


Exactly breh...:salutekobe:
 

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BOB ARUM SAYS PACQUIAO HAS SIGNED OFF ON EVERYTHING BUT MAYWEATHER HASN'T
January 13, 201512:28 PM MS
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Top Rank CEO Bob Arum says Pacquiao has signed off on all points
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I just spoke with Top Rank CEO Bob Arum. He pulled no punches. Arum says that Manny Pacquiaoand Top Rank have agreed to and signed off on all points concerning the big fight between the two prize fighting icons. Arum says that they are just waiting for Floyd's side to deliver Floyd. Arum is frustrated that there's still no sign of Floyd stepping up and signing the dotted line. Below is the Q&A between myself and Bob Arum.

BC – Bob thanks for talking to me. Before we talk about Mayweather /Pacquiao, talk about your upcoming shows in January and February.

BA – We are very active and working on more HBO dates putting our fighters to work. Were gonna keep busy, and we are obviously busy trying to put the Pacquiao Vs. Mayweather fight together.

BC – Share with the fans where the negotiations are at with the fight.

BA – As far as we are concerned, we've negotiated all of the points, and we are all in accord. Pacquiao signed off on everything, and we are ready to rumble. I can't say the same for the other guy, but that's not my job. The people representing the other guy have to deliver him, and that's what we are waiting for.

BC – Is there truth that a venue has been agreed on?

BA – Everything is agreed to. People need to understand that. everything is agreed to by my guy (Pacquiao) and his (Mayweather's) representatives. Manny has signed off, now we are just waiting for the other side to deliver Mayweather.

BC – What's the difference between this time around and other so called attempts to get this fight done?

BA – It's the same bullshyt. His people negotiate, then they say there's no negotiations, then Mayweather never steps up to the plate. It just solidifies my feeling all along that Mayweather doesn't want to fight Pacquiao. He never did.

BC – So this time is no different than any other time?

BA – The only difference this time is because Leslie Moonves (CEO CBS) has been doing some stellar work trying to close this match. He's met with everybody, he's talked to everybody. There's no question in my mind that Showtime and CBS want this match to happen.

BC – So Many is good with everything?

BA – Manny is good, and Top Rank is good.

BC – So Floyd is holding up this whole thing?

BA – That's the way I see it.

BC – Is Top Rank good for the May 2nd date?

BA – They wanted May 2nd and we (Top Rank) agreed. I didn't want to throw any obstacles in the way of this fight, so we agreed. I think it's a silly date because there's no Mexican fighter involved on that date, but
Floyd wanted this for May 2nd, and Manny went along with it.

BC – Is Floyd trying to price himself out of the fight?

BA – Negotiations have been going on and as far as we are concerned they are complete.

BC – So Floyd just won't sign the damn contract?

BA – They can't produce Floyd to agree. It's the same thing that happened with Ross Greenberg a few years ago when we agreed on everything then they couldn't produce Floyd Mayweather. Same thing when we got past the drug testing, Pacquiao agreed, and Mayweather wouldn't. This is no different than any other time.

BC – I'm trying to get out of you, for the fans, what the hold up is.

BA – Brad, Mayweather knows more about the boxing end of this, not the business end of this, the boxing side. He's a student of boxing. The worst style that he can fight is Manny Pacquiao, who's left handed, who throws punches from all angles, and will match him in speed. That's not a good fight for Floyd Mayweather.

BC – It's a good payday though Bob. Floyd loves money and this would be an awful lot of money.

BA – I understand that it's a good payday and it's something that the public really wants, but when he (Floyd) looks over the terrain, he realizes that the worst opponent for him is Manny Pacquiao.

BC – How far can you guys let this go before you have to move on and look for someone else to fight?

BA – We are going to push this to the end. We're not going to let them off of the hook. We want this fight to happen. The public wants it. It's time to stop fu#@ing around. He needs to get some cajones. Even if its a difficult fight to accept for him, he needs to take it and do the best that he can.

BC – Thanks for the update. I'll be in touch.

BA – Thanks Brad.

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Its the same bum ass Maidana.. nikkas always wanna talk about the Maidana Floyd fought hut never the Floyd Maidana fought :patrice:


I know triangle does not work in boxing, but let's say he did better than Cotto and Canelo combined. That Maidana would beat Pacquiao's ass. Straight up
 

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This bothers me, because boxing as a whole didnt have to get to this state.

If the power players lean on the key boxing figures, they will be FORCED to make the best fights "..or else" - because boxing guys are at the mercy of these people who control the budget. it's not like these fights will go making the same amount of money without HBO/SHO

the fact that it's taken some guy who has no interest in sports to be like " :stopitslime: cmon now, dont fukk this shyt up" and that and only that is whats necessary to make this fight, makes me think all the promoters and network figureheads are in on this bullshyt

they could stop this "insubordination" (for lack of a better word) in general at step 2 or 3, but here we are at step 10 and only when people's jobs are at stake is when they wanna start doing what they were supposed to be doing in the first place :rolleyes:


that rumor was confirmed by Espinoza to false on Twitter already breh. I m waiting for the next 4 weeks as my dude told me to see wassup. If not, I m done with this :snoop:
 

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BOB ARUM SAYS PACQUIAO HAS SIGNED OFF ON EVERYTHING BUT MAYWEATHER HASN'T
January 13, 201512:28 PM MS
376f01361f6eddb2b60ca9c27ecef90f.jpg

Top Rank CEO Bob Arum says Pacquiao has signed off on all points
Photo by Chris Hyde/Getty Images
I just spoke with Top Rank CEO Bob Arum. He pulled no punches. Arum says that Manny Pacquiaoand Top Rank have agreed to and signed off on all points concerning the big fight between the two prize fighting icons. Arum says that they are just waiting for Floyd's side to deliver Floyd. Arum is frustrated that there's still no sign of Floyd stepping up and signing the dotted line. Below is the Q&A between myself and Bob Arum.

BC – Bob thanks for talking to me. Before we talk about Mayweather /Pacquiao, talk about your upcoming shows in January and February.

BA – We are very active and working on more HBO dates putting our fighters to work. Were gonna keep busy, and we are obviously busy trying to put the Pacquiao Vs. Mayweather fight together.

BC – Share with the fans where the negotiations are at with the fight.

BA – As far as we are concerned, we've negotiated all of the points, and we are all in accord. Pacquiao signed off on everything, and we are ready to rumble. I can't say the same for the other guy, but that's not my job. The people representing the other guy have to deliver him, and that's what we are waiting for.

BC – Is there truth that a venue has been agreed on?

BA – Everything is agreed to. People need to understand that. everything is agreed to by my guy (Pacquiao) and his (Mayweather's) representatives. Manny has signed off, now we are just waiting for the other side to deliver Mayweather.

BC – What's the difference between this time around and other so called attempts to get this fight done?

BA – It's the same bullshyt. His people negotiate, then they say there's no negotiations, then Mayweather never steps up to the plate. It just solidifies my feeling all along that Mayweather doesn't want to fight Pacquiao. He never did.

BC – So this time is no different than any other time?

BA – The only difference this time is because Leslie Moonves (CEO CBS) has been doing some stellar work trying to close this match. He's met with everybody, he's talked to everybody. There's no question in my mind that Showtime and CBS want this match to happen.

BC – So Many is good with everything?

BA – Manny is good, and Top Rank is good.

BC – So Floyd is holding up this whole thing?

BA – That's the way I see it.

BC – Is Top Rank good for the May 2nd date?

BA – They wanted May 2nd and we (Top Rank) agreed. I didn't want to throw any obstacles in the way of this fight, so we agreed. I think it's a silly date because there's no Mexican fighter involved on that date, but
Floyd wanted this for May 2nd, and Manny went along with it.

BC – Is Floyd trying to price himself out of the fight?

BA – Negotiations have been going on and as far as we are concerned they are complete.

BC – So Floyd just won't sign the damn contract?

BA – They can't produce Floyd to agree. It's the same thing that happened with Ross Greenberg a few years ago when we agreed on everything then they couldn't produce Floyd Mayweather. Same thing when we got past the drug testing, Pacquiao agreed, and Mayweather wouldn't. This is no different than any other time.

BC – I'm trying to get out of you, for the fans, what the hold up is.

BA – Brad, Mayweather knows more about the boxing end of this, not the business end of this, the boxing side. He's a student of boxing. The worst style that he can fight is Manny Pacquiao, who's left handed, who throws punches from all angles, and will match him in speed. That's not a good fight for Floyd Mayweather.

BC – It's a good payday though Bob. Floyd loves money and this would be an awful lot of money.

BA – I understand that it's a good payday and it's something that the public really wants, but when he (Floyd) looks over the terrain, he realizes that the worst opponent for him is Manny Pacquiao.

BC – How far can you guys let this go before you have to move on and look for someone else to fight?

BA – We are going to push this to the end. We're not going to let them off of the hook. We want this fight to happen. The public wants it. It's time to stop fu#@ing around. He needs to get some cajones. Even if its a difficult fight to accept for him, he needs to take it and do the best that he can.

BC – Thanks for the update. I'll be in touch.

BA – Thanks Brad.

Follow me on Twitter @bradc00ney1


My dude is on point so far :wow:

Only thing is negotiations were not done through Bob and FLoyd is handling everything. Manny is like a Ortiz typa guy in that situation
 

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